chris_livsey Posted September 9, 2009 Share #1 Posted September 9, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Of most interest to me, and I suspect many others is the lens table for manual entry. Could a new owner, or someone who had had better luck than me filtering the available information, let us know what is on the table ? ie is it generic 50mm f2 (which would cover a Zeiss) or specific ? And if specific how far does it go into the Leica heritage eg does it go to a Summar f2 ? via all the other f2s inbetween (I suspect not ) TIA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 9, 2009 Posted September 9, 2009 Hi chris_livsey, Take a look here Lens Table ?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
stunsworth Posted September 9, 2009 Share #2 Posted September 9, 2009 Chris from the manual - page 38 of the English language PDF... Manual entry of lens type/focal length Due to a lack of coding, older Leica M lenses are not identified by the camera body, but “identification” can be carried out using the menu. 3. In the list in the Manual sub-menu, select the lens used. • A lens list appears in the monitor (1.32), which also contains the respective item numbers to allow definitive identification. Notes: • The item number is engraved on the opposite side to the depth of field scale on many lenses. • The list contains lenses that were available without coding (before around June 2006). Lenses launched more recently are only available with coding and therefore cannot be selected manually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_livsey Posted September 9, 2009 Author Share #3 Posted September 9, 2009 Steve thanks, for some reason I hadn't thought of the manual (icon of head hitting wall not available for selection ) So the list is very specific to item numbers but they must have drawn a line somewhere ? I may struggle to find the item number for my 1934 Summar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_livsey Posted September 9, 2009 Author Share #4 Posted September 9, 2009 Chris from the manual - page 38 of the English language PDF...• A lens list appears in the monitor (1.32), which also contains the respective item numbers to allow definitive identification. The item number is engraved on the opposite side to the depth of field scale on many lenses. I wonder when then started then ? It is new (in Leica years) as my 35mm f2 Summicron 1992 doesn't have that ( and it has been Leica coded). My 1996 90mm Elmarit doesn't 380**** but my 28mm f2 Summicron does 394**** Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 9, 2009 Share #5 Posted September 9, 2009 I suppose "item number" is the 5 digit product code used for all Leitz/Leica lenses from 1961: old Summicron 50=11818, first Summilux 35=11870 and so on. I'm curios to see the list... seems to me is difficult they listed ALL... anyway the 5 digit code is engraved on not so many lenses: it's a rather recent attitude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamiji Posted September 9, 2009 Share #6 Posted September 9, 2009 God help us if the lens is from Canada... Often there is no part number on there lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravastar Posted September 9, 2009 Share #7 Posted September 9, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've posted the lens table here. Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 9, 2009 Share #8 Posted September 9, 2009 I've posted the lens table here. Bob. Thanks! Nice work, Gravastar ! Many uncodable lenses are included... probably is not so significant as in M8, due to the no-need of UVIR filter, but is appreciable that, logically, these data are recorded in the EXIF file. Is obvious they do not include 3rd party lenses... but of course one can declare, say, a CV as the Leica "sibling or nearest to" and have focal recorded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted September 9, 2009 Share #9 Posted September 9, 2009 But, Luigi! How can I label my Hologon 15/8? Didn't someone say somewhere that lenses from 15mm upward would be included? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smb Posted September 10, 2009 Share #10 Posted September 10, 2009 What of the more recent Carl Zeiss lenses that are uncoded? Can they be used with the M9? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted September 10, 2009 Share #11 Posted September 10, 2009 They're not in Leica's list. That doesn't mean you can't hand-code them (probably less necessary with M9 than M8). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted September 10, 2009 Share #12 Posted September 10, 2009 Also, I don't see any reason why you can't declare your Zeiss lens to be one of the lenses that Leica lists. The 21 and 24 mm Leicas on the list could cover the Zeiss 21 and 25, for example. scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pointcolville Posted September 10, 2009 Share #13 Posted September 10, 2009 I asked the Leica rep today about compatibility with the CV15 and Zeiss 18. He said that 1) he didn't know and 2) caution is in order due to the thicker sensor filter. Has anyone mounted these lenses? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_livsey Posted September 10, 2009 Author Share #14 Posted September 10, 2009 I've posted the lens table here. Bob. Bob - Thanks for that labour of love. Fully clarified. I can only hope we get a trickle down to the M8 where, as said in a previous post, UV/IR is an issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spylaw4 Posted September 10, 2009 Share #15 Posted September 10, 2009 I asked the Leica rep today about compatibility with the CV15 and Zeiss 18. He said that 1) he didn't know and 2) caution is in order due to the thicker sensor filter. Has anyone mounted these lenses? Could this also apply to the much beloved 50mm collapsable Elmar M 2.8? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 10, 2009 Share #16 Posted September 10, 2009 But, Luigi! How can I label my Hologon 15/8? Didn't someone say somewhere that lenses from 15mm upward would be included? Howard... once again (as for M8) the M9 manual states "CANNOT BE USED" about the Hologon 15; no way... throw it away or, given it's useless... give me it for a beer... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adli Posted September 10, 2009 Share #17 Posted September 10, 2009 I have the previous (pre-ASPH) version of the cron 35 and 90. In the look up table there is one look up value for the pre-ASPH version of these lenses and and look up value for the new aspherical version. Is the in-camera correction for the per-ASPH version of the lens different than the correction for the new lenses? If I get the old lenses coded, will the camera then recognise them as the new version of the lens and thus apply "wrong" in-camera correction? In other words, is it better to manually select these lenses than to use the coding? I assume the differens is marginal, but I would still like to know the difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mby Posted September 10, 2009 Share #18 Posted September 10, 2009 Could this also apply to the much beloved 50mm collapsable Elmar M 2.8? The Elmar 50mm #11831 is in the list, so that's good news! - What I'm wondering is f you could safely collapse it on the M9??? Best regards, Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 10, 2009 Share #19 Posted September 10, 2009 I asked the Leica rep today about compatibility with the CV15 and Zeiss 18. He said that 1) he didn't know and 2) caution is in order due to the thicker sensor filter. Has anyone mounted these lenses?Well, I cannot imagine any sensor filter being millmetres thick. The only problem might be a shutter that is located far forward - but I cannot credit that, as that would create a host of problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted September 10, 2009 Share #20 Posted September 10, 2009 Is the in-camera correction for the per-ASPH version of the lens different than the correction for the new lenses? If I get the old lenses coded, will the camera then recognise them as the new version of the lens and thus apply "wrong" in-camera correction? 1. Probably 2. No, the lens code will be specific to the model - the code for a pre-ASPH lens will be different to the code for the ASPH version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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