sandymc Posted September 9, 2009 Share #1 Posted September 9, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) M9 site: http://m9.leica-camera.com/ FAQs : http://media.leica-camera.com/res/dnl/en/leica_m9_faq_en.pdf The FAQs are well worth the read Sandy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 9, 2009 Posted September 9, 2009 Hi sandymc, Take a look here M9 site with FAQs up now. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
marknorton Posted September 9, 2009 Share #2 Posted September 9, 2009 Big mistake, IMHO not offering a sapphire glass option and requiring IR filters to be removed for wide angles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 9, 2009 Share #3 Posted September 9, 2009 I would never have believed it possible : no Maestro chip!!!:eek: Re IR filters - that can hardly be a surprise - it seems nearly unavoidable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted September 9, 2009 Share #4 Posted September 9, 2009 I too am surprised they didn't use the Meastro chip set; may account for the cost of the S2 - alll that development cost spread across very few cameras, relatively speaking. It would have been nice to have an option to allow us to work with IR filters - makes seamless working with the M8 and M9 next to impossible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eudemian Posted September 9, 2009 Share #5 Posted September 9, 2009 The Maestro chip was one part of the rumour that I thought was certain. How wrong we were. It looks like they squashed a full frame sensor inside the M8 body(with some modifications) makes one wonder about how much of the internals have been revamped. I won't mention anyone in particular he must have enough pressure in his life with the fevered expectations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandymc Posted September 9, 2009 Author Share #6 Posted September 9, 2009 Yes - but I don't think there was any choice on the IR filter; there's an interesting line in the DPReview's preview that says "'Negligible' difference in corner fall-off between the M9 and M8" Which is different to the previous understanding which was the fall-off was negligible, not that difference was negligible. If the M9 is only the same as the M8, then an external filter as well will put you into a lot of stops of loss in the corners - too much to compensate for in software without getting noise. Sandy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpattinson Posted September 9, 2009 Share #7 Posted September 9, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) brighter screen apparently - should please someone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted September 9, 2009 Share #8 Posted September 9, 2009 I would never have believed it possible : no Maestro chip!!!:eek: Re IR filters - that can hardly be a surprise - it seems nearly unavoidable. You heard it here first! Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted September 9, 2009 Share #9 Posted September 9, 2009 Was there any mention of price. My webcast was so intermittent, I only got about 20%, so missed it if it was announced. Leica UK and Leica France websites seem to be down at the moment, probably for update. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted September 9, 2009 Share #10 Posted September 9, 2009 Now I've less doubt this is exactly the M9 prematurely announced by Steven K Lee more than 2 years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
efftee Posted September 9, 2009 Share #11 Posted September 9, 2009 From the list of SD cards, does that mean the Sandisk Ultra II is faster than the Extreme III? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Åmund Posted September 9, 2009 Share #12 Posted September 9, 2009 Will there be a 28 mm Summilux to match the framelines? Åmund Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpstjp Posted September 9, 2009 Share #13 Posted September 9, 2009 NO coding of "current 135 APO". Do we think this means they've got a new one in the wings? Seems unlikely, but then so did the M9 not that long ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 9, 2009 Share #14 Posted September 9, 2009 Just this morning I speculated that they could add 6 bit coding to APO Telyt 135... ... -1 for me... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 9, 2009 Share #15 Posted September 9, 2009 Big mistake, IMHO not offering a sapphire glass option and requiring IR filters to be removed for wide angles. Its a pity they have not offered a Black Chrome and Silver Chrome either. You can already work out the M9.2 spec./saphire glass/Silver Chrome/and a new shutter with 1/8000 top speed. I had intended ordering one right away but I think I will wait a while. Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
efftee Posted September 9, 2009 Share #16 Posted September 9, 2009 I would never have believed it possible : no Maestro chip!!!:eek: Um, what does that mean exactly? Is it bad or is it BAD? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adli Posted September 9, 2009 Share #17 Posted September 9, 2009 Um, what does that mean exactly? Is it bad or is it BAD? It does not matter at all. What matters is that it has a chip set that delivers what the camera (sensor resolution etc) demands. It of course has this. The speculations on the Maestro sensor was that Leica would design one chip set to cover two cameras. Would make sence with respect to cost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted September 9, 2009 Share #18 Posted September 9, 2009 The FAQs are consistent with my hunch that they follow the path of least resistance and least delay to get an M9 to market with maximum quality and least risk of gotchas. 1) the image is now full frame, great, we'll use the M7/MP frames and rangefinder. Oh they are set for 1M? Well that is how it should have been all along. No frame for 24mm? Can't see it, anyway. It's a good thing we released those dual mode viewfinders. Have to test the 135 to see when and if it works, instead. 2) The vendor has hard-wired the Maestro chip for the dimensions of the S2, can't recode it for 24x36mm? Well, DSPs are more flexible anyway, and we have the existing firmware to start with, even though we still haven't read all the way through the part they wrote at Jenoptik last time. And we can let them redo all the coding for those parts. The FAQs show that Leica has learned a lot in the time the M8 has been fending for itself out in the wild. The answers are less absolute and more nuanced than before. A couple of funnies -- why would the Ultra II chips be reported as faster than the Extreme chips at all sizes? Is there an accidental tuning fit between the older interface and the M8/9? Would any of us who have some electronic product development experience have done things differently? Probably not. scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted September 9, 2009 Share #19 Posted September 9, 2009 The FAQs say that, oh by the way, the shutter is different. Maybe that is where they shifted things to avoid the vignetting problem due to the battery case that Mark Norton's experiments suggested. Is there a picture of the bottom of the camera with the cover plate removed? It's not the sort of thing I would expect to see at this point in the PR materials, but maybe one of the lucky early adopters can show us if there are any differences down there. scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
efftee Posted September 9, 2009 Share #20 Posted September 9, 2009 why would the Ultra II chips be reported as faster than the Extreme chips at all sizes? Is there an accidental tuning fit between the older interface and the M8/9? Interesting exposition. So you think the Ultra II cards are indeed faster than the Extreme IIIs and not a typo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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