jelderfield Posted November 17, 2006 Share #21 Posted November 17, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) I say wait and ask your dealer to keep your position in the list. He sells the current camera but when he gets the "new" shipment of "fixed" cameras from Leica you should be at the top of the list. Jonathan Elderfield Photography Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rfleica Posted November 17, 2006 Share #22 Posted November 17, 2006 FWIW, I have postponed my purchase. I can wait. But only you can put a value to you on having the thing sooner> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogopix Posted November 17, 2006 Share #23 Posted November 17, 2006 I have had mine for over a week and have had ZERO issues in my shooting. Then again, I am not TRYING to 'break it' Buy it if you think Leica will eventually some all the problems to your satisfaction (I for one, understand the physics here, and do not expect miracles) Don't buy it if you are SURE that Leica will fall short for you. Think which will be worse nightmare --buyer regret or.... being out of the game! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted November 17, 2006 Share #24 Posted November 17, 2006 Erl, most of the people who've taken delivery seem to have decided to keep them. Yes it looks like the camera will probably need returning to Solms at some time, but you'll have use of it until then. I have a camera on order and have been having all the same concerns as yourself. In my case I've decided to take the camera when it appears. Your decision may be different, but it's yours to make :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newyorkone Posted November 17, 2006 Share #25 Posted November 17, 2006 I wish I HAD the option to decide... All I can do is wait. I say go for it Honestly, if you end up changing your mind you could probably sell it and you might even end up getting more for it...since it is a black one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted November 17, 2006 Share #26 Posted November 17, 2006 Is it time to roll out the violins??? Don't get me wrong, I hope Leica succeeds as a company but why should they do better when so many enablers are willing to cheer them on even when they stiff their clients? Dysfunctional falmilies resist challenge, this Leica family appears to be one of them (it's Leica right or wrong on this forum). I'll be happy to be a loyal customer when it is deserved. Good luck to you Earl, whatever you decide. I wish you the best possible and most mature outcome. For those of you with surplus funds on your hands, in lieu of buying a camera that is not street ready, here's an organization that can really use your support while you wait for Leica to come through with a serious solution to their most recent fiasco: Kids With Cameras. Kids with Cameras Adios, Wilfredo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogopix Posted November 17, 2006 Share #27 Posted November 17, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) wooowww! you would need to give up TWO M8's for a signed print! but a very interesting head start program... fresh eyes on their world Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frc Posted November 17, 2006 Share #28 Posted November 17, 2006 Wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahler_one Posted November 18, 2006 Share #29 Posted November 18, 2006 Take out one of your older Leica bodies, put the body to your ear, click the shutter and hit the film wind lever....continue to listen and click...gradually the immediate urge to buy the M8 will abate. Heck, you might even decide to put some film into one of those bodies! Wait until all the bugs are fixed. Sincere best wishes and good luck. Obviously a lot of the advice is very much tongue in cheek...the decision is purely based on your gut reaction. Let us know how you make out. EM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns_ng Posted November 18, 2006 Share #30 Posted November 18, 2006 Hi, My Leica dealer has a few M8 and called if I wanted one. I explained to him the issues with the M8 and the discussions in this forum. I have decided to wait for Leica's announcement. Meanwhile, I am using my R8/DMR to satisfy my 'digital fix', or my M3/M6 to get my 'RF fix'. N.S. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fonziewonzie Posted November 18, 2006 Share #31 Posted November 18, 2006 i'm number four on my dealer's list and with all this i decided to go tomorrow talk to them and cancel my order and buy an mp instead. i miss film anyway, and my d2x can keep me occupied till the m8 gets sorted out. .: a Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted November 18, 2006 Share #32 Posted November 18, 2006 Afonso you are less alone than you might imagine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrewer Posted November 18, 2006 Share #33 Posted November 18, 2006 ... i decided to go tomorrow talk to them and cancel my order and buy an mp instead. .: a Alfonso, don't forget about the gift certificate: Leica $500 gift certificate on film M7/MP Thanks. Allan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
twom4 Posted November 18, 2006 Share #34 Posted November 18, 2006 Atta boy Erl!!! We'll keep it secret from "she-who-must-be-obeyed" as long as you don't talk in your sleep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted November 18, 2006 Share #35 Posted November 18, 2006 Purchasing a defectuous item with full knowledge of its defects may give rise to refund denial in some legislations folks. My duty to warn you sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted November 19, 2006 Author Share #36 Posted November 19, 2006 Chris, I only talk to the dog in my sleep and doesn't mind what I do as long as I include him. LCT, your advice is appreciated and understood. However, most of my life has been spent compromising and 'making do' and such like so the M8 'as is' should not disturb me too much. Still weihing up, but tomorrow morning will be the test of my fortitude. I will certainly grill the dealer about any protecting that may be due to me. My basic intention will be NOT to return it if I do buy. So far, it seems so far ahead of the RD-1 (with all its compromises) that I think I will be overjoyed, both emotionaly and practically. Cheers, Erl Edit: LCT, wrt to 'full knowledge' of defects seems a bit hard to establish since Leica have not specifically declared what the problems are, nor do the dealers have any idea. Also, merchanable quality is to be expected by the purchaser, but as I said, I am not looking for a way out, but rather a way in! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted November 19, 2006 Share #37 Posted November 19, 2006 Most of the dealers staff in Melbourne, and in Sydney, seem genuinely pretty impressed with the M8. Disappointed that some things are yet to be sorted, aware that it leaves them in a spot, and also justifiably irritated by some less than competant use of the beast being passed of as fault of the camera. It is going to be a hard one to leave in the shop if you see it. But it isnt like it is the end of the line for the things. They can only get more user friendly shall we say? I figure I can wait a bit. I figure I dont have to meet deadlines so...back to robust for me, and agfapan to get it right. Volume to practice proficiency..anyway, that's the plan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumac Posted November 19, 2006 Share #38 Posted November 19, 2006 Go for it Erl!! too many oportunities lost by procrastination, at least Mr Costallo can contribute to the cost in your case, unfortunatly not for me. Regards, Stuart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted November 19, 2006 Share #39 Posted November 19, 2006 ...LCT, your advice is appreciated and understood... Just my job, Erl. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP3 Posted November 19, 2006 Share #40 Posted November 19, 2006 I think the essential point for your consideration is, Assuming Leica will ship out the 2nd wave of M8s with the hardware board fixed for the tweading/banding from Nov 27 onwards. And at the same time, calling for the 1st wave M8s back to Solms for a 2-week hardware upgrade, What is your position on the dealer's list for the 2nd wave M8s? If it is high as I assume, can you bear just from now to end of Nov... Only you can tell, if you can't bear, then get what the dealer can give you now. I'm sure Leica will take care of your 1st wave M8 and you will surely have a great enjoyment from now on. No need to worry whether can it come before X'mas IMHO = ) Cheers Matthew PS: Though I feel somehow some time a bit disappointed by the various issues, the enjoyment and satisfaction from my M8 shoting and pictures is far far more than the early dismay. Let alone Leica will certainly take good care of us, the pioneers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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