ddp Posted November 16, 2006 Share #1 Posted November 16, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Took a visit out to Steamtown National Historic Site in Scranton, PA with William (Lambroving) last week...some nice stuff out in the yards to shoot. Portra 160NC & VC MP, 35 'Lux Aspherical, 90 'Cron APO Asph & Noctilux Thanks for looking. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/9351-steamtown/?do=findComment&comment=95021'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 Hi ddp, Take a look here Steamtown. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
hamey Posted November 16, 2006 Share #2 Posted November 16, 2006 Lovely shots Dan. It proves how good film is, and certainly think that digital images off the M8 will be NO better. Lol. Hail the King (Film) Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elansprint72 Posted November 16, 2006 Share #3 Posted November 16, 2006 Dan, Really excellent set, although the neglect is rather sad. Take a can of rust-preventer next time you go. wrt Ken's comment, for me it's not about the medium of recording, it's about the skill of the guy operating the tool. I'm sure that if I were at this location, I would not come away with shots as well seen as this, film or digi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted November 16, 2006 Share #4 Posted November 16, 2006 Dan, great, crisp images; lovely colour and tone too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry Posted November 16, 2006 Share #5 Posted November 16, 2006 Dan, The textures, shapes, shadows and compositions make a nice set of abstractions. And I second Ken's comments about film. Larry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrewer Posted November 16, 2006 Share #6 Posted November 16, 2006 Hi Dan. Thanks for posting this terrific series. The colors and textures intermingled with the shapes and forms of the close-ups are tremendously entertaining. And the quality of the images, as pointed out already, is superb. Excellent! Thanks. Allan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambroving Posted November 16, 2006 Share #7 Posted November 16, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Dan, You got my shot (#4) before the kids came! Damn!!! After looking at yours, not sure I'll bother to get mine processed. Mine were more of an overview while you put the Nocti on the details. That light was tough... Particularly like that last one. Pete, There are loads of restored cars and engines on this site. Dan finds peeling paint more interesting... Since you never listen to me, I'll let Dan explain how no digicam can capture that last one..., (and few camera/lens combos either), and a few of the others. Dan uses a Nikon Dx2 full-time at work. In my experience, the tool has a GREAT influence on the outcome, regardless of the skill, vision, "eye" of the photographer. Dan can speak to that point as well, since photography is his "day job" and he holds a degree in photography and fine arts... Steamtown National Historic Site - Steamtown's Locomotives and Cars (U.S. National Park Service) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Hoge Posted November 16, 2006 Share #8 Posted November 16, 2006 I really like the last one!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddp Posted November 16, 2006 Author Share #9 Posted November 16, 2006 Thanks all for looking, and the comments. Regarding the film vs. digital debate - I will use the last shot as an example, since William pointed that one out. Film was Kodak Portra 160VC, lens was the 35 Summilux Apsherical. That lens is a recent acquisition, one that I do not regret. My 35 Summicron asph was nice, but this.....wow. In any case - this image, and a number of the others I shot that day have detail in places that would have been rendered differently in a digital format. This is not to say that digital would have been an unacceptable choice here, it's more a statement that film lends a more pleasing look. In the deeper shadows, or low light levels - digital files tend to get a bit noisy, much like a video camera when one pushes the gain up to +9db or so. Film can hold the details a bit better, and has a more velvety look. As William stated, I do work with Nikon DSLR's - so the differences in glass play a part in things as well. The Leica stuff is just outrageous...and for me, the combination of film & the glass is hard to beat (at least for my own personal work.) At work, it's sooner than later and film is a memory here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzo Posted November 16, 2006 Share #10 Posted November 16, 2006 All images are nicely captured. A very entertaining set, with lovely colour and detail. Well Done Dan. Best Azzo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbesz Posted November 16, 2006 Share #11 Posted November 16, 2006 A colorful series Dan, and I particularly like the second last shot (..the tunnel ). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted November 16, 2006 Share #12 Posted November 16, 2006 Every shot is first rate as far as I'm concerned. Beautifully executed series and really nice use of light. If I can get picture quality like this from the M8 (if I ever get my hands on one), I'll be thrilled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinop Posted November 17, 2006 Share #13 Posted November 17, 2006 Excellent series. Like the subject matter + the colors and crispness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beramos Posted November 19, 2006 Share #14 Posted November 19, 2006 Excellent series. I prefer the las shot for its superb composition and hreat light. I like it much Dan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddp Posted November 19, 2006 Author Share #15 Posted November 19, 2006 Thanks again guys! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted November 19, 2006 Share #16 Posted November 19, 2006 Since you never listen to me, I'll let Dan explain how no digicam can capture that last one..., (and few camera/lens combos either) Sorry William, but that is complete and utter tosh. Any 35mm camera or digital SLR could take a shot similar to that. 50mm lens at f2.8 should be just about be right. Which is not to take anything away from an excellent photograph and photographer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted November 19, 2006 Share #17 Posted November 19, 2006 The last two hit the right buttons for me, Dan. Do you do your own scanning? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elansprint72 Posted November 19, 2006 Share #18 Posted November 19, 2006 William, Perhaps you should have really read Ken's comment and my own properly before shooting from the hip in that condescending tone you use when you disagree with someone else's opinion. I am actually a very big fan of film, it's just that my preference is for B&W in a size larger than cine film. Dan, Thanks for your learned insight into this shoot, your set, as I said before is, .....imho(!) excellent; thanks for showing them and I hope that you have some more to post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamilsukun Posted November 19, 2006 Share #19 Posted November 19, 2006 Dan, Thanks for sharing these excellent images. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted November 20, 2006 Share #20 Posted November 20, 2006 This digital vs film thing can really stir up some passions, so at the risk of starting another of those long debates I'd like to express my opinion that a shot like the last one really can't, at this point, be made with any digital camera. In part, this is because the 35 lux ASPH has a very unique fingerprint and the only digital cameras it can be used on are the RD-1, which produces images with a very recognizable digital smoothness, and the M8, which isn't readily available in reliable form yet. Also, as Dan pointed out, film and digital captures treat shadow areas completely differently, and I've yet to see any digital image that has the texture of film. Programs that add grain get close, but nothing has duplicated it yet. The same is true for the Nocti shots. There's just no way that look can be duplicated with any digital camera right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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