sandymc Posted August 10, 2009 Share #141 Posted August 10, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Looking through the thread above........IS THIS REALLY THE WAY THAT THE LEICA BRAND RELEASES THE LONG AWAITED M9 FULL FRAME CAMERA? Well, actually, this was exactly how Leica intro'd the upgrade program and M8.2. Those on the forum at the time may recall a small UK based shop breaking the news...... Sandy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stunsworth Posted August 10, 2009 Share #142 Posted August 10, 2009 IS THIS REALLY THE WAY THAT THE LEICA BRAND RELEASES THE LONG AWAITED M9 FULL FRAME CAMERA? Leica have refused to comment on the M9, all the comments have come from individuals on internet forums and a handful of dealers who have hinted that there's going to be an announcement next month. My guess, and it's just a guess, is that the dealers have all been told what's happening as they wouldn't be happy with several thousand pounds worth of M8 sat on their shelves if the M9 was to be only a few hundred Euros more expensive. My other guess is that with the current economic climate being what it is, some dealers are releasing this information into the public domain to try to ensure potential purchasers buy from them not another dealer. Leica could pre-announce the S2 as its release would have zero impact on the existing product line. To pre-announce the M9 would kill at a stroke any sales of the M8 between now and the M9's release. The price for the M9 astonishes me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted August 10, 2009 Share #143 Posted August 10, 2009 The price for the M9 astonishes me. Me 2, on the high side, (just were does Leica think there real users get there money? From Trees.) and I won't even be thinking of one. My M8 is still taking great images and I'm not sure I want a FF M camera since I'm so use to the 1.33 crop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adli Posted August 10, 2009 Share #144 Posted August 10, 2009 The price for the M9 astonishes me. Well, at that price, it will tempt a lot of existing M8 owners to buy the M9, which will boost sales. But still, the price is not confirmed, so we have to wait and see Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 10, 2009 Share #145 Posted August 10, 2009 What I am trying to say here is that it is not right to justify the price of the M9 by comparison with that of the FF 1 series camera. It may be nearer in overall spec to the FF 5d2. A lot of people here seem to have a snobby attitude to Canon which is in no way justified. They produce a range of cameras and lenses at every price point for all to enjoy photography. And for all the uninformed views you read here their 1 series cameras with their L lenses perform superbly. Jeff I don't the Canon 1 series down, Jeff. Nor the 5D for that matter, but my point was that it is unreasonable to compare prices on two totally different concepts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted August 10, 2009 Share #146 Posted August 10, 2009 Well, at that price, it will tempt a lot of existing M8 owners to buy the M9, which will boost sales. But still, the price is not confirmed, so we have to wait and see You have got to be kidding, right. IMHO it will stifle sales. Just who in there right mind will invest $7000+ in a rangefinder camera. Sure some will sell, to those that have tons of money, but the sales will not be as great as they were for the original M8. Surprise there is already a digital M camera. In fact 3 of them, M8, M8.2 and the Epson. The only saving grace will be if this new M has NO problems, No need for IR filters on the lenses, does higher ISO, is faster to record both Jpg's and DNG and has better battery life. There lies another question. Will the M9 take the same size and shape battery as the M8's? If not that is another investment. I now have 5 Leica batteries and 1 aftermarket battery and 2, possibly 3 (if the eBay seller send me the charger and battery I won for $1.00), M8 chargers. Am I going to need new batteries and new chargers. You know you can't have just one charger because it has been proven that Leica battery chargers fail at the worst time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 10, 2009 Share #147 Posted August 10, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) The relative sales figure changes between the USA and the rest of the world bear your opinion out, Ed. I would suggest that many potential buyers in the rest of the world, where the crisis has not impacted as much on the general populace, at least not the middle classes, and that do not suffer the monetary depreciation of the $, will consider 5500 Euro a fair price, if it is indeed 5500 Euro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adli Posted August 10, 2009 Share #148 Posted August 10, 2009 Quote: Originally Posted by adli Well, at that price, it will tempt a lot of existing M8 owners to buy the M9, which will boost sales. But still, the price is not confirmed, so we have to wait and see You have got to be kidding, right. My point was that the M9 should not be priced much higher than the M8.2 to make current M8 owners trade their camera inn for å new one. If the M9 will be much more expensive than the M8.2, people will keep their current camera. But announcing an M9 at that price will immediately kill all M8.2 sales. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 10, 2009 Share #149 Posted August 10, 2009 That is true. But not difficult to foresee. I doubt that there is much stock around. And we could see some discounted M8.2 cameras as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adli Posted August 10, 2009 Share #150 Posted August 10, 2009 Classified: "6 Leica UV/IR filters for sale. Delivery scheduled for september" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagui Posted August 10, 2009 Share #151 Posted August 10, 2009 Hi every one So it is true , the M9 is ready to order this september. This is this end of the M8. It s so quick ! Does it mean that is the body is the same as the M8 and just a update of the sensor ? You can pre-order here : OBJECTIF BOETIE Spécialiste Leica, Nikon, Canon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 10, 2009 Share #152 Posted August 10, 2009 No-it will not be the same body, but it will probably look like the M8. The whole internal architecture will be different. I just hope they retained the battery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted August 10, 2009 Share #153 Posted August 10, 2009 That is true. But not difficult to foresee. I doubt that there is much stock around. And we could see some discounted M8.2 cameras as well. I think that is why you have seen special edition M8 and M8.2 cameras. To get rid of the leftover, overstock, parts. I will wait and see and maybe in 1-2-3 years from now buy one on the used market. There will be some. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adli Posted August 10, 2009 Share #154 Posted August 10, 2009 No-it will not be the same body, but it will probably look like the M8. The whole internal architecture will be different. I just hope they retained the battery. I just hope it will not be bigger or heavier. My M6 feels som much better in the hand than my M8. Yes I know it is just 3 mm, but still it feels clunkier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pascal_meheut Posted August 10, 2009 Share #155 Posted August 10, 2009 Hi every one So it is true , the M9 is ready to order this september. This is this end of the M8. It s so quick ! Does it mean that is the body is the same as the M8 and just a update of the sensor ? You can pre-order here : OBJECTIF BOETIE Spécialiste Leica, Nikon, Canon Reading the thread before posting would be a good thing to avoid duplicates Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted August 10, 2009 Share #156 Posted August 10, 2009 Reading the thread before posting would be a good thing to avoid duplicates I don't know Pascal - good news can never be repeated enough times! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barjohn Posted August 10, 2009 Share #157 Posted August 10, 2009 There is ONE BIG PROBLEM with this rumor. If Leica had the M9 this close to being ready for release why would they project continuing losses in the current FY? I would think they would have predicted a return to profitability or at the minimum no losses. In fact most companies would have at least hinted that they had a major new announcement in the wings that would positively impact its financial statement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 10, 2009 Share #158 Posted August 10, 2009 True, and valid. One can only surmise that it is a conservative way of accounting. Leica has, after all, no incentive to keep the price of their stock as high as possible, as a company with a larger number of external stockholders has. So there is no need for morale-boosting chapters in their financial statements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted August 10, 2009 Share #159 Posted August 10, 2009 In fact most companies would have at least hinted that they had a major new announcement in the wings that would positively impact its financial statement. Didn't they say that there were several announcements about to be made in different product areas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barjohn Posted August 10, 2009 Share #160 Posted August 10, 2009 If you have ever been involved in the preparation of an annual report with a public company and certified public accountants you know that every word has to be scrutinized carefully for possible impact. It doesn't matter if 98% of the stock is privately owned. The law is designed to protect the minority shareholder from the majority shareholder(s). Something like an M9 release within 30 days of releasing their financial report without any disclosure and a negative accountant's report would be seen as giving insiders an unfair advantage because it is a material event that would positively impact the share price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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