Fotomiguel Posted July 9, 2009 Share #1 Posted July 9, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm thinking about to get the new shutter. Do you know how long leica service needs for this upgrade? Just the shutter upgrade is about 1200 EU plus transport. I've tried a couple of times the new one and I feel a big difference. Would you do the whole upgrade for 2000 EU. I'm a bit scared of letting my M8 fly away. It would be the first time:(. Should I wait till the new M9 and spare the money for that? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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yanidel Posted July 9, 2009 Share #2 Posted July 9, 2009 The whole upgrade makes no sense to me as a used M8 is worth about €2000-€2400. Resell yours and add €2000 and you get a new M8.2. As for the shutter upgrade, the lower shutter noise of the M8.2 does make a difference as far as I could hear, but I don't want to lose the 1/8000th speed. So in my case, I'll wait for a M9 and not upgrade anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanhulsenbeek Posted July 9, 2009 Share #3 Posted July 9, 2009 .............Should I wait till the new M9 and spare the money for that?............. I hated the vibration of the old shutter as well as the dodgy frame lines (for my 75mm), so I had the full monty last year for 1200 EUR. I do miss the 1/8000 though. It all depends on your needs. The whole upgrade at 2000 EUR seems steep now, but it could be a long wait for a M9. Yanidels resell advice makes sense, and you get two years of warranty for a M8.2 instead of 1 year for an upgraded M8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 9, 2009 Share #4 Posted July 9, 2009 The whole upgrade makes no sense to me as a used M8 is worth about €2000-€2400. Resell yours and add €2000 and you get a new M8.2.As for the shutter upgrade, the lower shutter noise of the M8.2 does make a difference as far as I could hear, but I don't want to lose the 1/8000th speed. So in my case, I'll wait for a M9 and not upgrade anything. We don't know anything yet, but my guess is that the M9 will have the 4000 shutter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanidel Posted July 9, 2009 Share #5 Posted July 9, 2009 We don't know anything yet, but my guess is that the M9 will have the 4000 shutter. that would be a bummer. yet, if no UV/IR filters are needed on the M9 as I have read in a post (I believe you mentioned it ?), mounting a ND filter will be less of a deal I guess ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 9, 2009 Share #6 Posted July 9, 2009 I hated the vibration of the old shutter as well as the dodgy frame lines (for my 75mm), so I had the full monty last year for 1200 EUR. I do miss the 1/8000 though. It all depends on your needs. The whole upgrade at 2000 EUR seems steep now, but it could be a long wait for a M9. Yanidels resell advice makes sense, and you get two years of warranty for a M8.2 instead of 1 year for an upgraded M8. Also if you go for the M8.2 you get 2 more filters and the new charger. Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 9, 2009 Share #7 Posted July 9, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) that would be a bummer. yet, if no UV/IR filters are needed on the M9 as I have read in a post (I believe you mentioned it ?), mounting a ND filter will be less of a deal I guess ? As I hear they are still tinkering with the IR filtering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhoersch Posted July 9, 2009 Share #8 Posted July 9, 2009 Waiting and wondering a few more years won't do any harm, I suppose. Although I'm not utterly convinced that the eternal upgrade program will really turn out ot be that eternal. But when you look at what happened to the R10 (the one that was supposed to be the technological offspring of the S2) I wouldn't hold my breath for the M9, if I were you. Particularly, since no one knows what it will be or look like - even if it does come out in the end. Now really, I do wonder where all those sarcastic smileys come from?! (Can't include another one, because the software allows only four.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 9, 2009 Share #9 Posted July 9, 2009 Maybe Less than two months? Who knows. Beats years of waiting, I guess.:pNeed one more smiley to match your post... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonv Posted July 9, 2009 Share #10 Posted July 9, 2009 We don't know anything yet, but my guess is that the M9 will have the 4000 shutter. which leeds me to the question: Is the M8 shutter speed is full frame equivalent or measured accross the smaller senser? (so that 8000 becomes actual 10640) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 9, 2009 Share #11 Posted July 9, 2009 I think it does not work that way... The current shutter covers just about 24x36. There would not be muh difference in geometry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicoleica Posted July 9, 2009 Share #12 Posted July 9, 2009 I would also think that Leica will have set the timing to suit the sensor size. If they hadn't, I'm sure that someone would have measured it, and there would be a thread in this forum complaining by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted July 9, 2009 Share #13 Posted July 9, 2009 Miguel, save the $ on the camera and buy that extra lens you keep debating (still 35 cron?). I think your money is better spent on the lens than a shutter. Your pics don't seem to suffer from any shutter issues. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtZ Posted July 9, 2009 Share #14 Posted July 9, 2009 I'm thinking about to get the new shutter. Do you know how long leica service needs for this upgrade? Just the shutter upgrade is about 1200 EU plus transport. I've tried a couple of times the new one and I feel a big difference. Would you do the whole upgrade for 2000 EU. I'm a bit scared of letting my M8 fly away. It would be the first time:(. Should I wait till the new M9 and spare the money for that?Thanks Miguelito, Yo hice el upgrade de los cuadros del visor y del zafiro de la pantalla en mis dos cámaras. No hice el obturador ya que no quería perder el 1/8000, sobre todo porque utilizo frecuentemente objetivos rápidos. En estos momentos, Leica me va reemplazar mi primera M8 por una nueva (está estropeada -un problema con el obturador...). Me propusieron darme una M8.2 y yo les pedi, si era posible, una M8. Me han dicho que van a fabricarme una nueva (M8 original) pero con los mismos upgrades que yo le había hecho. Además, supongo que tener dos camaras casi iguales con mandos distintos puede ser complicado para el uso corriente: Tienes que estar siempre pensando que camara tienes en las manos. Mi consejo: Si la M8.2 te gusta, vende tu cámara actual y comprátela. Vas a ganar dinero (o, por lo menos, no vas a tirarlo a la basura). Si quieres guardar el 1/8000 no hagas nada... puedes vivir muy bien con la M8 original a pesar de los cuadros del visor y del plástico de mala calidad de protección de la pantalla. Venga, bonic, bon día i fins la proxima. Adeu ArtZ PS: Sábes donde puedo encontrar en Paris la sobrasada de Mallorca de "porc negre de Benissalem" y "Calidad Oro" (esa..., la artesana 100%)... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
noah_addis Posted July 9, 2009 Share #15 Posted July 9, 2009 Seems silly to me. The upgrades are way too expensive at this point. I work in sensitive situations and love quiet shutters, but the M8 as is works fine for me. It's really not that loud and I can handhold it pretty slow. Financially, it would make more sense to trade the M8 for an M8.2 or better yet just save the money for a lens (which would actually give you added capabilities) or for a future M9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
efftee Posted July 9, 2009 Share #16 Posted July 9, 2009 Miguel, save the $ on the camera and buy that extra lens you keep debating (still 35 cron?). I think your money is better spent on the lens than a shutter. Your pics don't seem to suffer from any shutter issues.Jeff My sentiments exactly. From what I understand, the 'feel' of the new shutter differs from body to body. I've had the experience of trying a few different M8.2 together and, it could be psychological, but they don't feel 'exactly' the same. Of course my hands are no scientific gauge so take that with a whole bowl of salt! And whilst I do feel more tremors with my M8, it doesn't make enough seismic difference, IMHO, to impress. I, for one, would not do the upgrade; in fact, I rather prefer the 1/8000 and probably not swap that if the upgrade was free. I'd put that 1200 to 2000 Euros in a piggy bank for a new 21 or 24 Lux *drool* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beamon Posted July 9, 2009 Share #17 Posted July 9, 2009 We don't know anything yet, but my guess is that the M9 will have the 4000 shutter. Probably a good guess . It is incongruous, imho, for a camera like the M8.2 to offer a "Snapshot" mode. I never use it; the "A" mode is just as fast and more flexible. The M9 should scrap the "S" and add the 1/8000 sec. shutter speed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted July 9, 2009 Share #18 Posted July 9, 2009 Probably a good guess . It is incongruous, imho, for a camera like the M8.2 to offer a "Snapshot" mode. I never use it; the "A" mode is just as fast and more flexible. The M9 should scrap the "S" and add the 1/8000 sec. shutter speed. But wouldn't we then be back to the noisy shutter that everyone complained about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotomiguel Posted July 9, 2009 Author Share #19 Posted July 9, 2009 Thank you for the interesting replies! The upgrade seems to be no more profitable. I should have done it when it was cheaper. I like the speed 8000 but not as much as the smooth new shutter. On the other hand my dear M8 is getting old and perhaps would be a nice present get this operation for her. I think I will never sell it. We have a kind of relationship. Anyway, my idea is to buy the M9 and keep the M8 as a second body. That's the big question. How long? If it's less than two years, is better to wait. And more than two years, is better to improve my M8. Regards Miguel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotomiguel Posted July 9, 2009 Author Share #20 Posted July 9, 2009 Miguel, save the $ on the camera and buy that extra lens you keep debating (still 35 cron?). I think your money is better spent on the lens than a shutter. Your pics don't seem to suffer from any shutter issues.Jeff Hi Jeff! How are you? The 35 is always in my mind, but I got a couple of nice shots with the 28mm that gave me some quietness;). Now, seriusly 35 cron, 21mm 1.4, 24mm 1.4, 18mm 3.5 are always in my mind. But I have to think too much. Kind Regards Miguel Shutter issues!!!! I have! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/90220-thinking-about-the-shutter-upgrade/?do=findComment&comment=957581'>More sharing options...
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