kenneth Posted July 5, 2009 Share #1 Posted July 5, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Slowly coming to terms with the demise of Kodachrome, the death of Michael Jackson, Farrar Fawcett and Andy Murray's Wimbledon performance in that order and was wondering where we go from here. I have tried Fuji Velvia 50asa in the passed on recommendation but found the colours, especially the Japanese green not to my taste as I only take pictures in the Northern Hemisphere. I have used Agfa CT18 50asa which performs well at altitude in the Alps and in Scotland in the depths of winter but I find it a little blue for general use. Years ago I tried Ektachrome but there again this film also has a hazy blue cast so what I am hoping to find is a film which replaces my beloved Kodachrome with those lovely natural understated English Rose tones. Any Ideas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NB23 Posted July 5, 2009 Share #2 Posted July 5, 2009 Honestly, this Kodachrome thing is the biggest Hypocrisy I've ever seen. I know what this film is and what it's about. But where we're you all (including me) in the last years when the film was available? Nobody was shooting it. It simply wasn't selling. Actually, people used to avoid Kodachrome like the plague in favor of faster E-6 processing. Kodak gave Kodachrome 10 years of artificial life. Who are we kidding now? In reality, Kodachrome will not be missed at all. We're in a hype bubble but that's it. I love the film as much as all of you, but I'm guilty of not having used it when it counted, just like everyone else. Hypocrisy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
etp095 Posted July 5, 2009 Share #3 Posted July 5, 2009 Honestly, this Kodachrome thing is the biggest Hypocrisy I've ever seen. I know what this film is and what it's about. But where we're you all (including me) in the last years when the film was available? Nobody was shooting it. It simply wasn't selling. Actually, people used to avoid Kodachrome like the plague in favor of faster E-6 processing. Kodak gave Kodachrome 10 years of artificial life. Who are we kidding now? In reality, Kodachrome will not be missed at all. We're in a hype bubble but that's it. I love the film as much as all of you, but I'm guilty of not having used it when it counted, just like everyone else. Hypocrisy. so what does this have to do with the question that was asked? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ash Posted July 5, 2009 Share #4 Posted July 5, 2009 so what does this have to do with the question that was asked? He is pointing out that most people gave an answer to the question a long time ago. Regards Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el.nino Posted July 5, 2009 Share #5 Posted July 5, 2009 did you try the new ektar? i know, it's not a silde-film, but from what i have seen, the colors are very similiar to the kodachrome ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenneth Posted July 5, 2009 Author Share #6 Posted July 5, 2009 so what does this have to do with the question that was asked? Thank you- Everyone loves a clever arse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenneth Posted July 5, 2009 Author Share #7 Posted July 5, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) did you try the new ektar? i know, it's not a silde-film, but from what i have seen, the colors are very similiar to the kodachrome ones.No I haven't but can you tell me how it fits into the slide magazines on my Pradovit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker Posted July 5, 2009 Share #8 Posted July 5, 2009 No I haven't but can you tell me how it fits into the slide magazines on my Pradovit? Thank you- Everyone loves a clever arse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted July 5, 2009 Share #9 Posted July 5, 2009 Fuji Astia gives the most natural colours in any E6 film I have used - but the again, Kodachrome colours aren't natural. Try one of the new Ektachromes - I used one called Elite recently, and the colours on that roll were very pleasing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StS Posted July 5, 2009 Share #10 Posted July 5, 2009 This is a difficult question for me to answer. Before a roll of KC last weekend, I haven't used slide film for a while. Before that, I used Kodachrome 200, which suceeded Kodachrome 200 and Kodachrome 200 again. If I remember correctly, the last slide-film used by me, which wasn't a Kodachrome was called Agfa CT. This must have been in the mid-eighties.... Stefan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitz Posted July 5, 2009 Share #11 Posted July 5, 2009 I agee with Steve. Slide users answered this question years ago, with various brands of E-6 films. Kodachrome's percent of total slide film sales must be tiny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenneth Posted July 5, 2009 Author Share #12 Posted July 5, 2009 Thank you- Everyone loves a clever arseYes you are quite right- I retract my comment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayoflight Posted July 6, 2009 Share #13 Posted July 6, 2009 I haven't used Kodachrome (and seems like I never will), but tried the recent Kodak Elitechrome series, and they are very good. I was amazed by the warm colors of Kodak Elitechrome ExtraColor after trying several Fuji consumer slide films. The simple Elitechrome (not ExtraColor) may be even better -- I will try it soon -- with less blue-ish color cast and finer grain. And: Kodak Elitechrome is the only film I can scan without any color correction on my Minolta ScanDual III scanner. Fuji is very tricky and painful. I'm planning to try the Kodak E100G. The colors of Kodachrome were beautiful if scanned well (filtering the blue from highlights). And I just haven't seen any better rendering (interpreting) of skin tones and green foliage than what appeared in '60s and '70s National Geographic magazine. Gábor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted July 7, 2009 Share #14 Posted July 7, 2009 I was amazed by the warm colors of Kodak Elitechrome ExtraColor after trying several Fuji consumer slide films. The simple Elitechrome (not ExtraColor) may be even better -- I will try it soon -- with less blue-ish color cast and finer grain. As the original poster did not like Fuji Velvia, my advice is to stay away from the ExtraColor version of Kodak's Elitechrome. I have used it once and wish I hadn't. The regular Elitechrome 100, however, is very good (besides being very affordable) if you like warmer colors. I do like Fuji's Provia 100F better, but must admit that it has a more neutral color balance that does not hide blueish light if it's there (which is the case more often than one would think). Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PasMichiel Posted July 7, 2009 Share #15 Posted July 7, 2009 I still think the Portra 160 VC has the best color like the Kodachrome. The natural color version is the 160NC. It's not a slide, but the colors are the best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted July 7, 2009 Share #16 Posted July 7, 2009 I used the E100 GX much, sometimes K64. With the discontinue of both, i think I have to use the "neutral" E100 instead. CN film is no real substitute for me, although i sometime use the Portra series. Slidefilm is still my first choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Albertson Posted July 8, 2009 Share #17 Posted July 8, 2009 Years ago I tried Ektachrome but there again this film also has a hazy blue cast so what I am hoping to find is a film which replaces my beloved Kodachrome with those lovely natural understated English Rose tones. Any Ideas? You might try the Ektachromes that Kodak started rolling out 10 years ago---they've lost the blue color cast, and are very fine-grained. I shoot a lot of E100G in medium-format, as it seems (to me) to be the closest to Kodachrome's color pallette. E100GX for the warmer, "Kodachrome several months past its sell-by date" look, especially for studio flash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBA Posted July 9, 2009 Share #18 Posted July 9, 2009 I've just seen the results of test rolls of Ektachrome E100 VS and G that I shot last week. The palette of the VS is nice enough but the G did nothing for me. In any case, my main complaint with them, as with all E6 films, is that the shadow details get lost in one indistinguishable mass of black. I'm not satisfied that any film currently available is an adequate replacement for Kodachrome. Unless Kodak develops new films and chemistries that can equal or surpass Kodachrome's performance, there's no sense in pretending that the E6 films are even in the same ballpark. The more I think about it, the more I feel like when the time comes I'll just curl up in a corner and die clutching my last roll of Kodachrome so it literally has to be pried from my cold, dead hand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted July 9, 2009 Share #19 Posted July 9, 2009 E100G and Elite 100 have nice bright colors without being OTT. Fuji Astia 100F has neutral colors and amazingly fine grain. English light is typically very soft and muted; the opposite of here in NZ where we have ultra bright light. You might also like to to Agfa RSX, now out of production, but there are a few rolls still hanging around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnkare Posted July 9, 2009 Share #20 Posted July 9, 2009 I've just seen the results of test rolls of Ektachrome E100 VS and G that I shot last week. The palette of the VS is nice enough but the G did nothing for me. In any case, my main complaint with them, as with all E6 films, is that the shadow details get lost in one indistinguishable mass of black. In a situation with a lot of contrast this might happen. But have you tried overexposing (say, one stop) and underdeveloping? I haven't, but at least with b+w nega it helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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