jaapv Posted March 3, 2009 Share #21 Posted March 3, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Which is the correct size. Barring the most likely option that it is a camera fault, there are a few other possibilities: 1. The card was not removed from the computer using the correct "eject". 2. The SD card itself is faulty, causing the file on the card to be corrupt. The file size on the card should read 4.899 kB. 3. There was no three-second wait before starting the update. 4. I'm not sure if this can cause trouble, but the card should not be locked prior to updating. It is probably superfluous, but for an update I always format the the card in the computer before formatting in the camera. I'm not suggesting you did any of these things, it is just a caution to others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 3, 2009 Posted March 3, 2009 Hi jaapv, Take a look here HELP! ... firmware update 2.004 CRASHED my m8. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
mhoersch Posted March 3, 2009 Share #22 Posted March 3, 2009 I updated both my M8 and M8u. The M8 works fine, the M8u worked for about 20 test shots in discreet mode, then stopped working with message: "Attention Shutter Fault". My M8 is due for the upgrade next week, and the M8u doesn't work anymore thanks to the new firmware. So I'll have to send both to Solms... Great! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeonardT Posted March 3, 2009 Share #23 Posted March 3, 2009 the size of the file is: 5,016,342 bytes That is exactly the file size of my update and it loaded just fine. Len Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 3, 2009 Share #24 Posted March 3, 2009 I updated both my M8 and M8u. The M8 works fine, the M8u worked for about 20 test shots in discreet mode, then stopped working with message: "Attention Shutter Fault". My M8 is due for the upgrade next week, and the M8u doesn't work anymore thanks to the new firmware. So I'll have to send both to Solms... Great! I'm sure Leica will delay the upgrade for the duration of the repair. It makes me wonder, if such a thing should happen outside of guarantee, I am convinced Leica should (and probably would) pick up the bill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhoersch Posted March 3, 2009 Share #25 Posted March 3, 2009 I updated both my M8 and M8u. The M8 works fine, the M8u worked for about 20 test shots in discreet mode, then stopped working with message: "Attention Shutter Fault". My M8 is due for the upgrade next week, and the M8u doesn't work anymore thanks to the new firmware. So I'll have to send both to Solms... Great! Now my M8c stopped working, too. After three shots in continous mode and return to single mode, no error message, just nothing. Battery out/in, the camera can be turned on (red led), but then nothing: no menu, no LCD, no shutter, just nothing. Ruined two M8s in five minutes. Full success, thank you very much indeed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
canlogic Posted March 3, 2009 Share #26 Posted March 3, 2009 Did you use the same download to update both cameras? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
usayit Posted March 3, 2009 Share #27 Posted March 3, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I downloaded the file for an upgrade later tonight.... Here's my cksums: $ ls -al m8* 5016342 Feb 9 15:51 m8-2_004.upd $ cksum m8* 449276646 5016342 m8-2_004.upd $ openssl dgst -md5 m8* MD5(m8-2_004.upd)= 3ed0cf81b441f5c4a08393e274293333 md5 agrees with the one previous posted so it looks like I am good to go (or maybe not). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 3, 2009 Share #28 Posted March 3, 2009 Did you use the same download to update both cameras? I don't think that is possible.. Manfred, my sincere commiseration. This is unbelievably unlucky! I tried exactly what you did, but I could not duplicate the error, thankfully. Phew! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell c. greenberg Posted March 3, 2009 Share #29 Posted March 3, 2009 Now my M8c stopped working, too. After three shots in continous mode and return to single mode, no error message, just nothing. Battery out/in, the camera can be turned on (red led), but then nothing: no menu, no LCD, no shutter, just nothing. Ruined two M8s in five minutes. Full success, thank you very much indeed! Is it possible the the discreet(discrete) mode is best used in single only? I heard about M8.2 camera shutters not stopping when running discreet/continuous combination. Maybe this is another problem with discreet mode. I will use this new feature only in single for now and see if a similar problem develops. Russell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSL Posted March 3, 2009 Share #30 Posted March 3, 2009 Another problem is that the re-cocking of the shutter does not always occur when you let your finger off of the shutter release, necessitating turning the camera off and on again. But nine times out of ten it works o.k. Firmware 2.005, anyone? Now that's an encouraging statistic. Imagine. You only have to turn the camera off and back on once every tenth time to get it to work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfspencer Posted March 3, 2009 Share #31 Posted March 3, 2009 I did not install the last firmware upgrade (before this new 2.004). Does anyone have knowledge of whether it will now be a problem upgrading to the latest 2.004? I suppose I could go back and load both.........maybe? Thanks for any help you might offer. CD My Leica M8 is about a year old. I don't think that I installed the last firmware before the upgrade . . . but I could have. This upgrade went fine. I used an iMac and an SDHC card and reader. It took about three minutes for the card to download to the camera. The camera is working just fine. The discreet mode works fine. I have taken less than 20 shots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJP Posted March 3, 2009 Share #32 Posted March 3, 2009 Now my M8c stopped working, too. After three shots in continous mode and return to single mode, no error message, just nothing. Battery out/in, the camera can be turned on (red led), but then nothing: no menu, no LCD, no shutter, just nothing. Ruined two M8s in five minutes. Full success, thank you very much indeed! I would definitely try (re)charging the batteries first. I once had my camera crap out on me in the middle of a series of shots in C mode & I thought it had died. Turned out to be a sudden battery death, but I could not believe how fast it went from happy to stone dead. The upgrade process itself I guess is a big load on the batteries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted March 4, 2009 Share #33 Posted March 4, 2009 Just out of curiosity, why is anyone trying to shoot in "continuous" and "discrete" modes simultaneously? They seem mutually exclusive goals (shoot motordriven frames in sequence as QUICKLY as possible vs. shooting ONE frame and then DELAYING the wind-on motor - and the next exposure - for a few seconds to hide the motor sound) In film days, the equivalent would be trying to shoot a motorized camera at high speed while holding on to the rewind knob to keep the film from advancing - seems guaranteed to break SOMETHING! I realize that a crash during firmware loading is a separate issue - sorry to hear about that event!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell c. greenberg Posted March 4, 2009 Share #34 Posted March 4, 2009 Just out of curiosity, why is anyone trying to shoot in "continuous" and "discrete" modes simultaneously? They seem mutually exclusive goals (shoot motordriven frames in sequence as QUICKLY as possible vs. shooting ONE frame and then DELAYING the wind-on motor - and the next exposure - for a few seconds to hide the motor sound) In film days, the equivalent would be trying to shoot a motorized camera at high speed while holding on to the rewind knob to keep the film from advancing - seems guaranteed to break SOMETHING! I realize that a crash during firmware loading is a separate issue - sorry to hear about that event!! Adan, I absolutely agree with you Re: continuous/discreet combo. That is a recipe for disaster. When I have to shoot continuous, I will only do so with normal advance set, not discreet. Russell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
canlogic Posted March 4, 2009 Share #35 Posted March 4, 2009 I don't think that is possible.. Manfred, my sincere commiseration. This is unbelievably unlucky! I tried exactly what you did, but I could not duplicate the error, thankfully. Phew! What I meant was did he use the same file from the computer or did he do the download twice ( I doubt) so possibly the download was corrupt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevem7 Posted March 4, 2009 Share #36 Posted March 4, 2009 I feel for you! Sorry to hear about this. I know I would be an unhappy camper if a firmware crashed my M8. I have only taken 20 or so shots since my FW upgrade and so far so good. Hope you get it fixed fast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markku Posted March 4, 2009 Share #37 Posted March 4, 2009 I feel for you! Sorry to hear about this. I know I would be an unhappy camper if a firmware crashed my M8. I have only taken 20 or so shots since my FW upgrade and so far so good. Hope you get it fixed fast. Hellow all! I also upgraded my M8u to 2.004 yesterday and the same happened to me - after some 20 shots "Err - Shutter fault" happened. No magic tricks available I think... unluckily I even don't have the 2.002 firmware release available to see whether a downgrade would help here. Does anyone have the previous release handy before I'll send my M8 to Leica? Cheers, /Markku Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhoersch Posted March 4, 2009 Share #38 Posted March 4, 2009 Just out of curiosity, why is anyone trying to shoot in "continuous" and "discrete" modes simultaneously? Good question. Answer: because after some happy shots in single and discreet mode, I turned the camera off, turned it on again after a few minutes and accidentally set the On switch to C mode. I only realized I was in C mode when the camera recocked immediately and even fired another shot - and then went dead. I may have to check on that one, but I don't remember having read in the instructions for upgrading: "Never, repeat NEVER, use the camera in C mode while the advance is set to discreet mode in the menu. Otherwise camera will stop working immediately." The M8u managed to stop working in single mode only. Shutter fault, and that's that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhoersch Posted March 4, 2009 Share #39 Posted March 4, 2009 Is it possible the the discreet(discrete) mode is best used in single only? Discreet mode is best used in single mode, otherwise camera may die? Come on, you can't be serious?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted March 4, 2009 Share #40 Posted March 4, 2009 Just out of curiosity, why is anyone trying to shoot in "continuous" and "discrete" modes simultaneously? They seem mutually exclusive goals I agree but the camera should deal with the combination more elegantly and not simply die (if that's what has been happening). After all, if the M8 is anything like mine, it's very easy to flick the on/off switch to the C position when quickly turning the camera on. I waited around two years before I could be bothered to update the firmware on my first M8 (still haven't bothered with the other). I think I'll wait a while before running 2.004. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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