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As Andy says, surely not a photo lens, probably a TV, and maybe for some special purpose (surveillance ?) ; they are so kind to specify that focuses to infinity only, and so silly to add that "Summilux Noctilux" which means nothing... requested price ridicolus, wouldn't buy it for 1/10th...

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What about the Macro Elmarit that's for sale in the buy/sell section? Never heard of that before, again its meant for movie/video cameras.

 

Gosh, I didn't notice it... strange lens (f 3 ?) ... I did know the cine Lenses for the various Leicina 8mm movie cameras, but didn't know they made lenses for (apparently) 35 mm moviecameras...

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Did anybosy notice this one? Leica M1 Olive Bundeseigentum Elmar Olive 4/135 - eBay (item 350086445439 end time Aug-13-08 05:06:37 PDT)

 

 

Again a ridiculous price for a camera "Bundeseigentum" :confused:, obviously sprayed olive with an aerosol can, maybe owned by a forester?

 

It may be genuine, although it is new to me, but 7200 Euro in that state?

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Again a ridiculous price for a camera "Bundeseigentum" :confused:, obviously sprayed olive with an aerosol can, maybe owned by a forester?

 

It may be genuine, although it is new to me, but 7200 Euro in that state?

 

Jaap, if you find an olive green Leica on which the paintwork finish is perfect being sold as genuine, run away from it. The one on e*ay looks authentic and with its finish in the "proper" condition.

 

Leica paintworks, be them olive green or black lacquer, of that age are painfully mediocre, and camera finishes didn't age well. The paint used to bubble, to chip off and to wear down to the bare brass. This brassing is described by dealers as 'patina', and exposed as a sort of authenticity proof.

 

Re the price, I was about to say that it was a quite reasonable one... Most olive green Leica bodies can even go for a little more than that. And with it you are also getting a lens which is even scarcer than the body itself.

 

But, if you want to buy an everready case for the camera, you'll have to resort to this place. and cash out an additional 1500 Euros!!

:)

 

Best,

Ed

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The best "feature" is the "M1" smack in the middle of the rangefinder window!

 

Guy

 

Guy, the M1 has NO rangefinder and NO rangefinder window. It has a blind with "M1" scripted on it.

 

Also, the olive green M1 don't have the normal framelines dotation, but only the 5cm and 13,5cm ones

 

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Ed

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Guy, the M1 has NO rangefinder and NO rangefinder window. It has a blind with "M1" scripted on it.

 

Also, the olive green M1 don't have the normal framelines dotation, but only the 5cm and 13,5cm ones

 

Best,

 

Ed

 

Ed:

 

That is interesting, but could you tell me more about it? What is the rationale for eliminating the rangefinder (beyond cost, obviously), and how was the camera meant to be used?

 

Thanks.

 

Guy

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Guy,

 

The M1 was a sort of low priced camera derived from the Leica M2 and intended to be used mainly with the Visoflex system, but maintaining a little more functionality than the contemporary Leica MD. It was produced between 1959 to 1964. The Viewfinder had only the framelines for the 35 and 50mm focal lengths.

 

Its low cost due to the lack of an integrated rangefinder and restricted purposes funtionality was the reason why the Bundeswehr (the German army) ordered 200 camera bodies, all olive green lacquered instead of the usual chrome finish, and with a special viewfinder, showing only the 50 and 135mm framelines. There was also a special engraving on the top plate indicating "5cm + 13,5cm", under the "Wetzlar - Germany" script.

 

The 5cm Summicron supplied to the army was a plain chrome version, some engraved "Bundeseigentum", but the Elmar 135/4 had the vulcanite painted in the same olive green colour as the rest of the camera.

 

Not a lot of those 200 cameras survived army use, and even less did so in a minty fashion... hence the hefty price tag these cameras usually demand in the collectors' market.

 

Best,

 

Ed Albesi

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