toke Posted May 28, 2008 Share #1 Posted May 28, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Don't know if this is news, but................ The Future of Leica - - PopPhotoMay 2008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Daniel Ortego Posted May 28, 2008 Share #2 Posted May 28, 2008 Well, it’s been circulated elsewhere although it’s still fairly current. Regards, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jklotz Posted May 29, 2008 Share #3 Posted May 29, 2008 the one question I have after reading is: "Incidentally we will show something else significant for the M system at Photokina, not just lenses." What will that be? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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offshore Posted May 30, 2008 Share #5 Posted May 30, 2008 the one question I have after reading is: "Incidentally we will show something else significant for the M system at Photokina, not just lenses." What will that be? Quickly becoming more than a rumor is a compact M digital similar in size to the CL/CLE bodies with frame lines to match up with the new line of Summarits. It was supposed to sell for under $3K but the weakened dollar will probably bring it in much higher. This rumor/reality has been posted here many times and is really not new news. A rumor (heavy on rumor) is a new lens to replace the recently discontinued Noctilux, possibly an 0.95 but that has big odds against it at this point. Since Leica reps are under threat of immediate termination from disclosure of new products before they are officially announced it is hard to tell fact from fiction. There was also a heavy rumor regarding an R10 but that has died down of late and if I were a betting man I'd put my money on the CL/CLE sized M at this point. Then again I'm not a betting man but I would like to see this happen and would buy one if it is in the under $4K range. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertW Posted May 30, 2008 Share #6 Posted May 30, 2008 I'll play. I "hear" we're talking faster lens: 50mm, 24mm & 21mm. Of course seeing is believing and we'll all have to wait and see, unless you have a reliable pipeline of inside information (a.k.a. gossip)! . Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfelder2@nyc.rr.com Posted May 30, 2008 Share #7 Posted May 30, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) I love my M8, have been happily using it since November 2006. But there is obviously room for improvement, especially in the ISO performance. Mr. Kaufmann's rap in this interview suggesting having sensors perform better at higher ISO as somehow software trickery against the spirit of true Leica photography is ridiculous. Either he is a reactionary out of touch with what photographers have always wanted (to capture what they see) or he is an apologist trying to put a good spin on an imperfect situation (they don't have better sensors in the immediate future). By his reasoning, one could also dismiss high iso film with better grain as being "film massaging." Preposterous. The whole reason those faster lens were made were that goal of getting better images at lower light by any technical means - software or hardware. Barnack would have turned up his nose at sensor technology? I think not. That being said, I like Kaufmann. I get the feeling he is trying his best to make the company and the product as good as possible and keep it in the spirit of the Leica history. I think the management should swallow their pride and partner with Nikon (like they did with Panasonic for compacts) and put a cutting-edge sensor in a Leica. The build quality on the chassis and lenses will always be Leica, the price-point will always mean it's not competition for Nikon or whomever they deal with. As far as I'm concerned, the sensor is like film, put whatever brand you can in there as long as it's the best. Snapshot Artifact Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bernd Banken Posted May 30, 2008 Share #8 Posted May 30, 2008 Sorry, Nikon gets its sensors from Sony. Matsushita (Pana) and Sony are not the best friends, despite some golf club contacts of their top management;) Bernd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshore Posted June 2, 2008 Share #9 Posted June 2, 2008 I'll play. I "hear" we're talking faster lens: 50mm, 24mm & 21mm. Of course seeing is believing and we'll all have to wait and see, unless you have a reliable pipeline of inside information (a.k.a. gossip)! . Rob It's kind of like waiting for David Lynch to come out with a new movie. You know it will be different, you just don't know how much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted June 2, 2008 Share #10 Posted June 2, 2008 Mr. Kaufmann's rap in this interview suggesting having sensors perform better at higher ISO as somehow software trickery against the spirit of true Leica photography is ridiculous. What I think he was refering to was that some cameras get very good high ISO performance by using agressive in camera noise reduction that results in loss of definition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saloti Posted June 2, 2008 Share #11 Posted June 2, 2008 I'll play. I "hear" we're talking faster lens: 50mm, 24mm & 21mm. Of course seeing is believing and we'll all have to wait and see, unless you have a reliable pipeline of inside information (a.k.a. gossip)! . Rob sorry for this silly question: what are "fast lenses" ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjsokal Posted June 2, 2008 Share #12 Posted June 2, 2008 Lenses with a large maximum aperture like f 1.4 compared to 2.8 or 3.5. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jimmy pro Posted June 2, 2008 Share #13 Posted June 2, 2008 Quickly becoming more than a rumor is a compact M digital similar in size to the CL/CLE bodies with frame lines to match up with the new line of Summarits. Right. If you define "more than a rumor" as wild, wreckless speculation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
umanalc Posted June 2, 2008 Share #14 Posted June 2, 2008 Hi to all. Hoping to don't be infringing any rules of this forum, I feel that I MUST to notice you, better if in this "Leica News" thread, this new item, just surfaced in the camera field ! (click) - M I will come back to this thread soon, in order to read your possible comments, and suggestions ! Ciao from a rainy Italy, Luigi (click) - M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saloti Posted June 2, 2008 Share #15 Posted June 2, 2008 Lenses with a large maximum aperture like f 1.4 compared to 2.8 or 3.5. Paul thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshore Posted June 2, 2008 Share #16 Posted June 2, 2008 Right. If you define "more than a rumor" as wild, wreckless speculation Uh, jimmy da pro dat would be "reckless" which has a different meaning than "wreckless" which according to my driving record I have been for several years now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jimmy pro Posted June 2, 2008 Share #17 Posted June 2, 2008 So then smartass, where's your proof that a Digital CL is "more than a rumor"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted June 2, 2008 Share #18 Posted June 2, 2008 When a Company doesn't really make any positive anticipation and avoids insider news(like Leica is doing now) the difference with "rumor" and "more than a rumor" isn't significant... fact is that 1) Many users would appreciate a compact "Digital CL" 2) A "Digital CL" with Summarit lens line at its center (with a new RF system ?) would be a logical development for Leica So many people speak and speculate of it, so becoming "more than a rumor". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
veraikon Posted June 3, 2008 Share #19 Posted June 3, 2008 sorry for this silly question: what are "fast lenses" ?__________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------- Ciao, Lothar sorry Lothar for this bad joke : Tempo Linsen - Ostprodukte Versand der DDR To the new products rumors drawn from different Kaufmann interviews (popphoto, Handelsblatt, LFI…). I suggest that we will see at next Photokina (fotochina) in late September 08 _ some new fast[er] lenses in the wide / sw range for the M8, perhaps a 28mm Summarit. _ a functionable model of the “R10” DSLR with autofocus and a set of new AF lenses. (at the market early 2009) _ a design study for the Leica CLdigital . It won´t be on market before end of 2009. (Price range about 2000 €) These listed novelties would be a great achievement for the R&D department of Leica, which is compared to the Japanese competitors (and even Cosina-Voigtländer) a very tiny manufactory. Personally I believe that a digital Leica CLd is in the priority list (see Kaufmann Interview LFI) but not on market before end of 2009. I'm not a betting man but I would like to see this happen and would buy one if it is in the under $4K range. Me too, I am not a potential M8/M9 buyer, but a Leica CLd at the announced 2000€ range would be affordable for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted June 3, 2008 Share #20 Posted June 3, 2008 ...perhaps a 28mm Summarit... Why so? With two 28 yet (Summicron & Elmarit asph), there is no room for anything else but a Summilux IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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