wide.angle Posted September 1, 2006 Share #1 Posted September 1, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Minilux, Grayscale/Duotone applied, Costa Rica Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/4427-re-energizing-supergirl/?do=findComment&comment=41654'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 1, 2006 Posted September 1, 2006 Hi wide.angle, Take a look here Re-energizing Supergirl. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
albertwang Posted September 1, 2006 Share #2 Posted September 1, 2006 Interesting use of backlight. Really dig the look there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted September 1, 2006 Share #3 Posted September 1, 2006 Scott - With one exception I think this is superb becaue of its subject, pose, framing, light and selective focus. The one thing bothering me is purely personal taste: I am not fond of the toning you've selected (or, perhaps what shows up on this site). I'd prefer straight black and white or a warmer tone, such as a moderate amont of sepia toning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wide.angle Posted September 2, 2006 Author Share #4 Posted September 2, 2006 Thanks for the comments! Stuart, I may or may not be having a color problem, but on my home Macbook pro, which i've calibrated (not sure whether it actually calibrated correctly), I really like the sepia, it seemed to warm and give it a bit of a slight metalic brown look. But on my work windows pc, i saw a greenish hue that i didn't like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wide.angle Posted September 2, 2006 Author Share #5 Posted September 2, 2006 I'm pretty new at sepia toning a print, let me know whether this works better... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/4427-re-energizing-supergirl/?do=findComment&comment=41744'>More sharing options...
stuny Posted September 2, 2006 Share #6 Posted September 2, 2006 Scott - As my friend Roger Thomson says, "That's more better". One of the reasons I wrote, "(or, perhaps what shows up on this site)" was that once before somebody posted a toned photo that had strange color -- we thought that it was caused by the posting process to the Forum, but perhaps it has something to do with Mac to Forum to PC. Regardless, with your intended toning the shot is superb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb Posted September 2, 2006 Share #7 Posted September 2, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Really nice one, WA! P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandokan Posted September 2, 2006 Share #8 Posted September 2, 2006 I think we all relate to the look of "not here yet" until we've had our morning coffee/tea. Great shot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wide.angle Posted September 13, 2006 Author Share #9 Posted September 13, 2006 Sorry to bring up this thread again, but I am interested in possibly submitting this in a contest. I would appreciate any criticism/comments on what would make the image better in terms of contrast, tone, etc. I can't do anything about cropping as it must be submitted full-frame (as seen above), but I am allowed to burn/dodge too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic vic Posted September 13, 2006 Share #10 Posted September 13, 2006 scott - what is it - scan??? uplopad the best one - without any manipulation at all, if u want some additional help. the photo is a bit weak in exposure and contrast. flare is also there and badly hadeled in post-proccessing. the sepia tone is not qiute rite as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted September 13, 2006 Share #11 Posted September 13, 2006 Scott, there's a well caught, far away look to this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wide.angle Posted September 14, 2006 Author Share #12 Posted September 14, 2006 ok per vics suggestion i rescanned. it was a 60 mb file so i shrunk it down for here. i may have messed up on using right color profile because the skin tone looks too red compared to the slide. also there was no sharpening done and it doesnt look sharp compared to the slide. anyway here you go. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/4427-re-energizing-supergirl/?do=findComment&comment=49302'>More sharing options...
wide.angle Posted September 14, 2006 Author Share #13 Posted September 14, 2006 btw the reason i felt a b/w worked better was because i wanted to draw out 3 things. she was a superhero (symbol), she needed a recharge (face), and coffee is the answer (just as for us mortals). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic vic Posted September 14, 2006 Share #14 Posted September 14, 2006 ok - here are the two results... one is color and the next is bw (without sepia). start first by making good b/w then add sepia. also atached the kodak target, if u r femiliar with it u will understand how to look at the imges above. make sure that 1-the grey scale is finely superated and that u see all the shades and with smooth gradation. make sure grey is grey (it is +/- 1% accuracy in color mode). then make sure that the color patches are sensibly gradated etc. also... u have made it with adobe rgb1998.icc . note this is one of the most convinience profiles for high quality work (maybe except the prophoto rgb.icc that european agencies and labs ask and require most the time). but.... it is not your scanner profile. u should use first of all your scanner profile in order to teach the software how to read the colors from your scanner. only then u put it in other color space, and only then to the output. anyway, all images here are in gamma 2.2 and srgb.icc. also, for serious work (especially with problematic originals) it is mangatory to work in 48 bit color, not 24. the b/w is almost useless for print in 8bit after such an extended editing. next reply - i will demostrate the procedures.... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/4427-re-energizing-supergirl/?do=findComment&comment=49457'>More sharing options...
stuny Posted September 14, 2006 Share #15 Posted September 14, 2006 Victor made some startling improvements here (I wish I had his post-pro sckills), but I think the B&W might be a little too bright. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic vic Posted September 14, 2006 Share #16 Posted September 14, 2006 oooooops - sorry - alomst forgot to give the link :-)))))) image correction here u can see the procedure step by step. u can do almost the same on photoshop (i simply dont have intalled photoshop on this computer here). this is techincal work rite now. my suggestion is that u will get a good technical result, save it in 48bit (of course the scan should be done in 48bit from the first place). then get back to it later and make your artistic image. with technical approach and when u know that u want to get back to the image later - it is good idea not to push the photo to the linits, u will do it later on the second stage. ah - stuart - to my taste it is slightly bright too with b/w but it is good technically - and actually - i wouldnot dare to darken the 8bit file becasue the face will get really badly textured because alot of tonal info is not existed there (and even reduced becasuee of the procesing). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertwang Posted September 14, 2006 Share #17 Posted September 14, 2006 Holy smokes, vic vic, rather impressive... a little too bright for my tastes but it's a matter of individual interpretation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wide.angle Posted September 14, 2006 Author Share #18 Posted September 14, 2006 Vic, thank you very much for this help. You are a patient person and a good teacher. All the steps you went through are overwhelming to me. This is such a learning curve! I will have to wait until I go home to see the images on a calibrated monitor (mine at work is bad). The detail is very bad compared to the slide (e.g., skin and hair detail, I can see on her watch what time it was). I'm assuming that is because you had to work with such a tiny file here yes? I am excited to try to do a much better job of the image tonight. It probably should have begun with Scanner (Minolta ScanDual III) Calibration, but I don't have a profile for it or IT8 targets. I did scan it using vuescan in "raw" mode with highest resolution and I think 64 bit rgbi, then had vuescan convert that to tiff mode with the adobe profile. As for the kodak target, I am not familiar with what the colors should look like, so I'll go buy one today. Again, I am shocked and delighted you went to such trouble to help me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wide.angle Posted September 14, 2006 Author Share #19 Posted September 14, 2006 And Albert, Vic's final does seem a bit brighter than the original slide, and I did intend it to be darker to emphasize the mood that I saw in the dim lighting along with the cup, logo and face. But again, I didn't want to compare until I had a good monitor (at least a better one than at work). I'll try to follow Vic's teaching and redo the image tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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