berndr Posted January 28, 2008 Share #61 Posted January 28, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) I wish I read German! The aspect ratio is something, too... why are people in the German forum thinking this is an R prototype? Yes, that's one of the indices for a prototype picture. Next point, the author Olli Richter is from the leica academy and he might be envolved in R10 development and testing. The question is it made with R10 he answered with "it's not made with a M camera". I don't know what's the capabilities of the Leica D3 with ISO1600 but for my opinion it's to good. So what else could be used? When the picture really is taken with a prototype then the development of the R10 for autum is on a good way! @said: The picture is not off focus, it's just the speed of the skier. And Olli wouldn't use a pic from HDTV for a fake. Maybe there will be more concrete news when PMA starts. Regards, Bernd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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andybarton Posted January 28, 2008 Share #62 Posted January 28, 2008 If Olli has a beta R10, and has used it to post a shot here, he won't have a beta R10 tomorrow... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted January 28, 2008 Share #63 Posted January 28, 2008 I really, really hope not. That would be an unmitigated disaster. I agree, the R is in a state of suspended animation at the moment and if it's going to stand any chance of survival, the R10 and relaunched glass are going to have to be pretty special given the competition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted January 28, 2008 Share #64 Posted January 28, 2008 I don't know what's the capabilities of the Leica D3 with ISO1600 but for my opinion it's to good. So what else could be used? @said: The picture is not off focus, it's just the speed of the skier. And Olli wouldn't use a pic from HDTV for a fake. I haven't tried the Digilux 3 but if it was a picture significantly downsized to web post, adding some mild PP, then noise won't be an issue. Also, I was referring to the 16:9 aspect ratio when I mentioned about HDTV, it's just a huge waste of pixels in still capture system because most print workflow cut to 3:2, 5:4 or 1:1. All in all, I don't believe it's a R10 shot, Olli was only teasing ... and only after somebody suggested it was a R10 shot. I don't think Kodak can do clean ISO 1600 ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted January 28, 2008 Share #65 Posted January 28, 2008 D-Lux 3? Right aspect ratio, goes up to 1600. Then again perhaps not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted January 28, 2008 Share #66 Posted January 28, 2008 My guess regarding Ollie's shot is that it was done with a Leica branded Olympus 4/3, made in cooperation with Olympus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Olof Posted January 29, 2008 Share #67 Posted January 29, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Now that the M8 has made history, both good and bad, but mostly good, what will come next from Leica? What will the M9 look like? Are there any plans for a Digital SLR? Cheers, Wilfredo (Happy M8 Owner) Benitez-Rivera Photography The M9 will come in 1.5 - 2 years. If there ever will be a new Lux 75 is not clear, because these lens wasnt a topseller. Leica will stop the chrome lens range. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted January 29, 2008 Share #68 Posted January 29, 2008 I don't know what's the capabilities of the Leica D3 with ISO1600 but for my opinion it's to good. So what else could be used? it could well be a Digilux 3 image in 16x9 (which it has) it appears to be supported by flash, look at the lettering on the boots DoF looks deeper than average for this kind of work, if it where FF135 i would expect it to be wider open Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 29, 2008 Share #69 Posted January 29, 2008 That ski picture on the German forum doesn't look at all, it's not even in focus, if that's what the R10 can do then I'd gladly pass it. Regarding the aspect ratio, I think it's just cropped to 16:9, seems there's a lot of HDTV addicts there, not my cup of tea ... If it is an R10 shot -and that is a big if- it is made with a prototype camera, so commenting on the image quality is singularly useless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 29, 2008 Share #70 Posted January 29, 2008 If Olli has a beta R10, and has used it to post a shot here, he won't have a beta R10 tomorrow... Unless marketing wanted to put a subtle teaser out..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted January 29, 2008 Share #71 Posted January 29, 2008 Everyone's assumed that Leica's vague reference to a 'larger than full frame' sensor has meant that it will be a larger in both dimensions. What if it's larger just in the horizontal plane? So with the new lenses it can shoot 16:9 (45x24 or there abouts), and with the existing lenses there's a switch in the camera that automatically crops the sensor to 36x24 in the same way the Nikon D3 does with cropped sensor lenses. Just a thought <grin>. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted January 29, 2008 Share #72 Posted January 29, 2008 There are PMA announcements from Canon (updated DSLR) and from Nikon (new DSLR, 3 new lenses) + lots of P/S cameras. From Leica, nothing so far... Last year, IIRC, we got the C-Lux 2. ZZZZZZzzzzzzzz..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted January 29, 2008 Share #73 Posted January 29, 2008 I did not intent to camouflage an R10-shot, the picture speaks for itself. What´s wrong? Have a closer look, boys! 4/3 DGLX3 with R-lens plus some PS i assume. And Ronald is making lot of fog around this, stating this might have been a Digilux3 - which I doubt! Format could point to the R10 ??? We will see Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dot Posted January 29, 2008 Share #74 Posted January 29, 2008 I imagine Leica will announce a D-Lux 4 based on the new Panasonic FS-3 and that's about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptomsu Posted January 29, 2008 Share #75 Posted January 29, 2008 I imagine Leica will announce a D-Lux 4 based on the new Panasonic FS-3 and that's about it. Could very well be! If I were Leica I would add the TZ5 as a new model. Really cool stuff! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dot Posted January 29, 2008 Share #76 Posted January 29, 2008 The FS3 does not seem to be the LX2 successor I thought it was so what would be the D-Lux 4 then? Perhaps the FX35 or would that be considered a C-Lux? I see a couple models that could have Leica alter egos but nothing close to what the LX2/D-Lux 3 offers. I do see 28mm and even 25mm wide angle though. Personally I'm hoping Sigma finally announces a street date for the DP1 as it seems to be the only compact designed with picture quality as the number one goal. I'm really tired of these megapixel wars that do nothing to help with picture quality. By the way, wasn't there supposed to be a Leica announcement today? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henning Posted January 29, 2008 Share #77 Posted January 29, 2008 it could well be a Digilux 3 image in 16x9 (which it has)it appears to be supported by flash, look at the lettering on the boots DoF looks deeper than average for this kind of work, if it where FF135 i would expect it to be wider open It's a Digilux 3 shot, with a 180 R lens, according to Olli. A decent enough shot, especially web-sized, but he wouldn't post an R10 shot if he had one. Henning Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceflynn Posted January 29, 2008 Share #78 Posted January 29, 2008 Leica will stun everyone by releasing a tabletop tripod with a dual-axis spirit level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted January 30, 2008 Share #79 Posted January 30, 2008 It's a Digilux 3 shot, with a 180 R lens, according to Olli. A decent enough shot, especially web-sized, but he wouldn't post an R10 shot if he had one. Henning yes, its interesting that it took so long for some to figure that out the DoF should have been a dead giveaway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted January 30, 2008 Share #80 Posted January 30, 2008 If Olli has a beta R10, and has used it to post a shot here, he won't have a beta R10 tomorrow... That is a statement that comes with a punch. No question about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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