Leica Q3 / Q3 43 / Q3 Monochrom Firmware v4

[LocalHero1953]

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1 hour ago, Smogg said:

What if the person isn't there, or only part of their body is visible, preventing the camera from identifying them? In this case, I need to focus on a specific object and don't want to hastily fiddle with the settings and change the mode.

It appears to pick up body parts (when set to Body/Face/Eye - I haven't tried Face/Eye)

Another improvement is that it now gives greater preference to a more distant face rather than a closer back-of-the-head - something I have found an irritation. It remains to be seen whether it is better at picking up black and brown faces equally with caucasian/east Asian.

Edited 13 hours ago by LocalHero1953

[Smogg]

18 minutes ago, Schneidr said:

Well, if there are no person / human eyes while using eye detection mode what else could the focus  system do than using Multi AF Focus Points (which is the case). I have a separate profile for Spot Focus. In specific situations I am using Manuel Focus. Both options can be activated very fast. Frankly, I do not see any issues with the camera or the update in these situations.

Switching profiles requires at least  four button presses! Then you need to adjust the exposure compensation, since you've memorized a neutral value in the profile, which will replace the current one when you switch profiles. So many unnecessary steps, wasting precious time. All of this can be easily avoided, which is exactly what other manufacturers do by implementing a simple tracking strategy: if there's a person near the focus square, recognize and follow them; if there's no person, lock onto the subject and stick to it.

Edited 13 hours ago by Smogg

[setuporg]

Leon, please relay to Leica that they have to immediately either disable the battery warning or make it appear no more than once a day.  Make it configurable in Settings.  This update renders cameras unusable for those who have previous batteries and have the full right to use those unhindered.

[Smogg]

3 minutes ago, setuporg said:

Leon, please relay to Leica that they have to immediately either disable the battery warning or make it appear no more than once a day.  Make it configurable in Settings.  This update renders cameras unusable for those who have previous batteries and have the full right to use those unhindered.

They need to add a Snooze icon to the pop-up screen, like on an alarm clock😂

[R4p70r]

4 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said:

Edit. I see that the Zone size can be changed by touch/pinch on the screen. I hope it will be possible to do this by other means as well - I don't like using touch other than in menus.

At least once I set "AF size" to a button, I press the button and change the size by scrolling the thumbwheel on my Q3 28.
I also hate to use the touch screen function to change something like this.

[Schneidr]

vor 15 Minuten schrieb Smogg:

Switching profiles requires at least  four button presses! Then you need to adjust the exposure compensation, since you've memorized a neutral value in the profile, which will replace the current one when you switch profiles. So many unnecessary steps, wasting precious time. All of this can be easily avoided, which is exactly what other manufacturers do by implementing a simple tracking strategy: if there's a person near the focus square, recognize and follow them; if there's no person, lock onto the subject and stick to it.

Hmmh, 4 buttons ? With my Q3: 2 simple intuitive clicks using profile settings. No need to enter the menu. Up to you 😉 

[LocalHero1953]

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2 minutes ago, R4p70r said:

At least once I set "AF size" to a button, I press the button and change the size by scrolling the thumbwheel on my Q3 28.
I also hate to use the touch screen function to change something like this.

Yes, I've done the same now.

[R4p70r]

11 hours ago, Pelu2010 said:

Hey, 

I tested the fw 4.0 this morning and I can say: well done > this is the state of camera I would have wished from the beginning. 
now I feel the af and I can react to it. 
previous fw the af was jumping around a lot. 

I'd like to know if the AF performance (reliability, confidence, hit rate of nailing the focus) is that much better after the firmware 4.0 update. I tried the Q3 43 in Nürnberg/Nuremberg at the Leica booth at the photography fair. I love the the focal length but the AF performance was OK-ish.

[Smogg]

3 minutes ago, Schneidr said:

Hmmh, 4 buttons ? With my Q3: 2 simple intuitive clicks using profile settings. No need to enter the menu. Up to you 😉 

The first click opens the profile menu, the second click skips the standard profile, the third click skips the main profile, and the fourth click confirms. Then, exposure correction.

[Schneidr]

vor 11 Minuten schrieb Smogg:

The first click opens the profile menu, the second click skips the standard profile, the third click skips the main profile, and the fourth click confirms. Then, exposure correction.

I have 1st Click Fn1 User Profile then 2nd Click e.g. Profile 2. Thats it. Exposure correction if needed always with thumb Wheel (also if no change in Profiles)

[keithlaban.co.uk]

Just how many threads do people need related to FW 4.0? It's getting really tedious reading through them all.

[Smogg]

I sincerely request that Leica bring back Favorites. Those who don't use it will keep the list empty and won't see this screen.

[Pelu2010]

2 hours ago, R4p70r said:

I'd like to know if the AF performance (reliability, confidence, hit rate of nailing the focus) is that much better after the firmware 4.0 update. I tried the Q3 43 in Nürnberg/Nuremberg at the Leica booth at the photography fair. I love the the focal length but the AF performance was OK-ish.

Hey, I can only speak for the q3 28.

its good > it works > is it outstanding > no 

my keeper rate for difficult situations is good. > 1/4 second night shoot cars and people/street . 

[Tarekith]

Even after resetting my Q43 and redoing my Profiles I'm still getting the odd spinning ball of Leica when trying to switch between my own Profiles.  Only happened a couple times, but still... snnoying.

One of the things that used to bug me about my Q43's AF when I first got it was that it would show the green box locked on an object or face making me thing the AF was dead on.  But then I would get home and see the focus was actually a little before or behind where I thought it was still.  So far in the new firmware this seems to be happening a lot less frequently for me.  Not only does the focus seem to acquire faster, but it actually hits the focal plane I wanted.

All of my testing was done on my dog and wife so far though, so YMMV.

[Cogito]

7 hours ago, Schneidr said:

Not sure if someone mentioned this: if you use „zone/multi field“ you can enlarge the zone to the whole screen. Simply  hold your finger to the zone and then enlarge with 2 Fingers. In combination with  eye detection human eyes will be detected wherever they are. Re-composition in this setting works nicely  with iAF or AFc in Addition.

this is what I’ve been doing for the last day, except I’ve found I can make zone one step smaller and it works best for me. ps, you can also use the thumb wheel to change zone size once you’ve selected it.

[Paul W]

12 hours ago, IRL said:

Is anyone experencing an issue with the functionality of 'toggle info levels' in both shooting and review modes? it works okay in the default profile but doesn't seem to work at all in any saved profile...thanks.

I had then too when I only allowed Info Profile 1.I fixed it by allowing (switch-on) Info Profile 2 - full screen/no information displayed. Now 'toggle info levels works' for me. 

[Cogito]

14 hours ago, Smogg said:

What do you do if there are no people in the photo you want to take, or the person takes up such a small percentage of the frame that the camera does not recognize them?

If there are no people in frame camera defaults to multi-field.