ronaldc Posted July 13 Share #1 Posted July 13 Advertisement (gone after registration) Iv been reading more and more of people getting damaged sensors from this LiDAR system in cars. As they become more and more circulated the changes of getting hit goes up. so what can we do to protect ? Does anyone know of any LiDAR filters that would protect our sensors ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted July 13 Share #2 Posted July 13 The use of a hypothetical 1550 nm filter would solve this problem. As it becomes more known, there will be companies offering one, I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knorp Posted July 13 Share #3 Posted July 13 Would that imply the liDAR is hitting the sensor only through the lens, Jaap ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 13 Share #4 Posted July 13 How else would it damage the sensor? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Blanko Posted July 13 Share #5 Posted July 13 vor 14 Minuten schrieb Knorp: Would that imply the liDAR is hitting the sensor only through the lens, Jaap ? Hard to imagine otherwise that a laser beam in the wavelength range of about 700 - 1500 nm would penetrate the metal housing of a Leica M. The question is whether the coating on the lenses or on the filter stack on the sensor would block the LIDAR radiation. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Blanko Posted July 13 Share #6 Posted July 13 vor 2 Stunden schrieb jaapv: The use of a hypothetical 1550 nm filter would solve this problem. As it becomes more known, there will be companies offering one, I suppose. Yup, we will probably see the new product of combined UV and LIDAR filters... 😉 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldc Posted July 13 Author Share #7 Posted July 13 Advertisement (gone after registration) Most definitely will damage sensor, I recently read of a guy with 2 week old m11-p with LiDAR damage all over sensor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Blanko Posted July 13 Share #8 Posted July 13 How would the "damage" look like? Persistent corrupted pixels? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 13 Share #9 Posted July 13 5 minutes ago, Robert Blanko said: Hard to imagine otherwise that a laser beam in the wavelength range of about 700 - 1500 nm would penetrate the metal housing of a Leica M. The question is whether the coating on the lenses or on the filter stack on the sensor would block the LIDAR radiation. I would not be surprised if camera manufacturers would incorporate 1550 filtering on future sensors. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 13 Share #10 Posted July 13 Hot pixel and pixel line. https://arstechnica.com/cars/2019/01/man-says-ces-lidars-laser-was-so-powerful-it-wrecked-his-1998-camera/ https://www.techspot.com/news/108045-lidar-great-cars-but-can-permanently-damage-cameras.html 7 minutes ago, Robert Blanko said: How would the "damage" look like? Persistent corrupted pixels? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldc Posted July 13 Author Share #11 Posted July 13 (edited) Also bear in mind the m10 shutter is closed until you take a photo so that’s a good protection while walking around. The m11 shutter is open while it’s on so walking around the sensor is completely exposed. Big problem for people like me that walk around cities with my M11 on all time. Could be walking and a car drives by and lasers the sensor Edited July 13 by ronaldc 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted July 13 Share #12 Posted July 13 50 minutes ago, ronaldc said: Most definitely will damage sensor, I recently read of a guy with 2 week old m11-p with LiDAR damage all over sensor link? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldc Posted July 13 Author Share #13 Posted July 13 12 minutes ago, frame-it said: link? https://www.reddit.com/r/LeicaCameras/s/F0n8E0cFhm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted July 13 Share #14 Posted July 13 I wouldn’t worry about cars. An iPhone or iPad uses LiDAR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldc Posted July 13 Author Share #15 Posted July 13 35 minutes ago, jdlaing said: I wouldn’t worry about cars. An iPhone or iPad uses LiDAR. What do you mean ? It’s been tested LiDAR damages phones and camera sensors full stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Blanko Posted July 13 Share #16 Posted July 13 vor 43 Minuten schrieb ronaldc: What do you mean ? It’s been tested LiDAR damages phones and camera sensors full stop. I think he means that not only cars but also current iPhones can damage camera sensors, as for instance the iPhone 16 pro indeed uses LIDAR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldc Posted July 13 Author Share #17 Posted July 13 5 hours ago, Robert Blanko said: I think he means that not only cars but also current iPhones can damage camera sensors, as for instance the iPhone 16 pro indeed uses LIDAR. ah yes thats correct, bloody Lidar technology,,, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted July 13 Share #18 Posted July 13 7 hours ago, jdlaing said: I wouldn’t worry about cars. An iPhone or iPad uses LiDAR. and the new hasselblad camera: The X2D 100C II integrates DJI’s LiDAR autofocus system, previously featured in the Ronin 4D. According to the report: “The promise of pricey LiDAR autofocus, which is utilized by DJI’s Ronin 4D and will presumably deliver a huge boost in autofocus performance, is exciting news.” This technology uses light detection and ranging to enhance focus accuracy, addressing the sluggish performance noted in the X2D 100C. For photographers, this means crisper portraits and landscapes, especially in challenging lighting. The infusion of DJI’s drone-derived innovation underscores a strategic partnership, blending the Chinese tech giant’s technical prowess with Hasselblad’s photographic heritage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted July 13 Share #19 Posted July 13 The new Rollei 35AF also uses LiDAR for autofocus. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbyshire Man Posted July 14 Share #20 Posted July 14 (edited) It’s going to be a power issue? The power output from a phone/camera is potentially lower than the car’s. I read that the wavelength isn’t focussed by the human lens but is by glass. I’m not sure I understand that as laser light is collimated anyway. I do wonder about the long term impact of high power LIDAR from cars on eyes, not seen anything written. There’s certainly a strong LIDAR lobby group though. Edited July 14 by Derbyshire Man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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