Cropping and perspective -once again (split thread)

[IkarusJohn]

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8 minutes ago, IkarusJohn said:

the DOF does not change either, because it does not exist

That nails it

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[jjroroek]

On 6/27/2025 at 3:43 PM, jaapv said:

Only if you need controlled DOF for your composition. The perspective is identical This has been extensively discussed and illustrated with examples  on this forum. 

but in the end the DOF makes for a great part the quality of the picture. cropping from 28 to 90 wide open  is in no way the same as using a fix focus 90 mm lens wide opem. cropping from a 28  F 1.7 is the same as shooting with a 90 mm lens at F 6 . 

I still like my q3 28 very much after more than a year shooting 10.000 pictures, but i still miss de DOF of a summilux 50 mm mow and then

Edited July 29 by jjroroek

[jaapv]

1 minute ago, jjroroek said:

but in the end the DOF makes the quality of the picture

Rather a narrow view of picture quality in my book.

[jjroroek]

2 minutes ago, jaapv said:

Rather a narrow view of picture quality in my book.

leica lensen are not famous because they can shoot sharp pictures but because of the DOF wide open. shooting with an 28 1.7 and crop to 90 mm is not the same as shooting with an 90 mm 2.0 

[IkarusJohn]

Where’s the popcorn …

[jaapv]

23 minutes ago, jjroroek said:

leica lensen are not famous because they can shoot sharp pictures but because of the DOF wide open. shooting with an 28 1.7 and crop to 90 mm is not the same as shooting with an 90 mm 2.0 

<Bless> 😇

[F-train]

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Leica lenses are famous because they are so expensive…

[F-train]

I bought a Q because of the quality and the “simplicity”.

Because I learned photography with slides I tend not to crop.

Slowly I am discovering how useful this is, and how beautiful it is implemented in the Q. 60Mp helps a lot, but it also requires a change of mind.

For the really short DOF pictures I now have a CL with 56mm/f1.4.

 

Edited July 29 by F-train

[F-train]

And as a side note to the op: I find the pictures in the M section much better than in the Q section. This has nothing to do with lens lenght, perspective, cropping or dof.
They’re just better. Something with “It’s the Indian, not the bow.”.

[fotografr]

6 hours ago, IkarusJohn said:

Where’s the popcorn …

Popcorn doesn't exist. It's just an illusion of an object that appears to be going from your hand to your mouth. 

[fotografr]

2 hours ago, F-train said:

And as a side note to the op: I find the pictures in the M section much better than in the Q section. This has nothing to do with lens lenght, perspective, cropping or dof.
They’re just better. Something with “It’s the Indian, not the bow.”.

That's very interesting. I bought a Q3 43 because I thought the posted images looked better than what I was seeing in the M sections.

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vor 14 Stunden schrieb fotografr:

That's very interesting. I bought a Q3 43 because I thought the posted images looked better than what I was seeing in the M sections.

Thats just because its a long time since I posted my images in the M11 section. I hope that you did not buy the wrong camera now 🤣