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I tend to prefer lenses with a more modern rendering and currently use both the APO 35mm and the Summilux 35mm FLE on both film and digital bodies. I’m now looking to explore the 75mm focal length, though it won’t be a primary lens for me.

The Thypoch Simera 75mm f/1.4 is high on my list as it seems to strike a balance between price,weight and optical qualities.

Are there any other options I should look into with a similar modern rendering?

 

 

 

 

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For a rangefinder use, you should not look at the price ticket in the first instance. Narrow tolerances in the production lead to higher prices.

Please have a look at the DOF calculator, here the one from Photopills.

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The 75mm Summarits are cheap enough to try. Perhaps not as biting as the Summicron but by no means poor. The only down side of the 75mm Summicron is if the rear floating elements are not set up as precisely as required. If they are then it is a stunningly good modern lens.

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I have both the 75mm Summilux and 75mm APO. I bought the summilux used before the 75mm APO came out, and when the new one came, I was planning on deciding which I prefer, so I could then sell the other. What I found is that they are both amazing. I would say the 75mm Summilux still does have a "modern" rendering from f4 or so. It is very sharp and contrasty. Pretty hard to tell apart from the 75mm APO. The 75mm APO, meanwhile, has a very pleasant rendering that is not harsh. From what I gather, the voigtlanders and summarits are also superb. So it seems like you cannot really go wrong with a 75mm lens, at least for Leica and Voigtlander. I know nothing about Thypoch, however.

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3 minutes ago, Stuart Richardson said:

I have both the 75mm Summilux and 75mm APO. I bought the summilux used before the 75mm APO came out, and when the new one came, I was planning on deciding which I prefer, so I could then sell the other. What I found is that they are both amazing. I would say the 75mm Summilux still does have a "modern" rendering from f4 or so. It is very sharp and contrasty. Pretty hard to tell apart from the 75mm APO. The 75mm APO, meanwhile, has a very pleasant rendering that is not harsh. From what I gather, the voigtlanders and summarits are also superb. So it seems like you cannot really go wrong with a 75mm lens, at least for Leica and Voigtlander. I know nothing about Thypoch, however.

I have both the ‘lux and apo 75.
The ‘lux 75 has a painterly rendering wide open that is nothing short of amazing. Closed down it is excellent and - I fully agree with Stuart - difficult to tell from the apo. A wonderful portrait lens.

The apo is a great lens, just like the apo 35, sharp and smooth bokeh. Much lighter and smaller than the lux.

If you wand a combo, I’d go for apo 35 / apo75

 

 

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vor 6 Stunden schrieb Pika898:

Are there any other options I should look into with a similar modern rendering?

For rangefinder cameras, there are several alternatives in the 75mm range. Take a look at Voigtländer and MeyerOptik beside Thypoch.
There are groups of the respective lenses on Flickr and you can get an impression of the characteristics of the lenses there.

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Summilux 75/1.4 or Nokton 75/1.5 for portrait and low light, Summicron 75/2 apo or Ultron 75/1.9 for general photo. AFAIC, the more used are Voigtlander's for smaller size and weight, and closer MFD.

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Am 9.6.2025 um 04:52 schrieb Pika898:

The Thypoch Simera 75mm f/1.4 is high on my list as it seems to strike a balance between price,weight and optical qualities.

You rightly have it at the top of your list.

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I have the 75 Simera as well. It's easy to use and play with.

I'll bet the 75 APO Cron is awesome. I already blew my budget for the year when tariffs forced my hand on the 35 (which was worth the pain), so Simera it was for 75mm. It seems to have the characteristics of a good portrait lens, and is quite versatile stopped down. These shots were taken at f/4. JPEG compression is taking its toll on the image, so you'll have to take my word that it's sharper than this.

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Trial shots on the Thypoch 75mm f1.4/MP/Kentmere 400 

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Be sure to try close head shots with any of your 75mm lenses at wide open.  If you focus on the model's eyes, his / her ears will go soft.  This effect has sort of a psychological bonus of making the portrait seem more intimate.  In life, we mostly only get close enough to a face to have the ears seem out of focus, when that person is someone special to us.  This is one the reasons a large aperature 90mm was popular with photo journalist and portrait photographers.  Large aperature 75mm M 1.4 lens was original suggested to offer this kind of portrait effects.   That was it's selling point.   If you are a little further back and stay at full aperature, the person in the shot separates nicely from a bokeh background, softer focus.  You can already see this effect in the flower and bee image above. Try to shoot some shots with people.  I think you will find the result to be pleasing and it cannot be really done at this focal perspective with any other lens.

A nice site that shows some of this type of portrait and closeup to the person images is at: 
https://phillipreeve.net/blog/leica-m-summilux-75mm-f1-4/

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On 6/9/2025 at 2:27 AM, SiggiGun said:

Best combo Apo35cron and Apo75cron

This was my initial kit, awesome foundation , the perspective are very different so they are fun! ….and easy to build upon 

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