Photoworks Posted January 25 Share #81 Posted January 25 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 1/23/2025 at 5:25 PM, hdmesa said: I only need 1 fps because I have flawless timing. All you 30 fps people need to practice more 🙃 But how can you make that frame at 12bit? can you do that? In the last few years of shooting professionally with SL2, I never shot continues ! Crazy, I must be missing out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hdmesa Posted January 25 Share #82 Posted January 25 6 minutes ago, Photoworks said: But how can you make that frame at 12bit? can you do that? In the last few years of shooting professionally with SL2, I never shot continues ! Crazy, I must be missing out. Don't tell anyone, but there also a secret 6-bit mode for true artists 🤫 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted January 25 Share #83 Posted January 25 7 minutes ago, Photoworks said: Crazy, I must be missing out. Diversity is good, isn't it; some does, some doesn't need/use AF-C. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmesa Posted January 25 Share #84 Posted January 25 (edited) 45 minutes ago, helged said: Diversity is good, isn't it; some does, some doesn't need/use AF-C. If one needed flawless AFc tracking, would the SL3-S be the one to choose? I wouldn't think so. The SL3-S seems to be for those that want to shoot Leica and only occasionally need AFc and/or are ok with the current hit rate. Personally, if I had to rely on the AFc for eye-AF professionally, there's no way I'd choose anything but a current Canon or Sony system (not even Nikon). Edit: bracing for the incoming "how did we do it in the days before autofocus" crowd 😵💫 Edited January 25 by hdmesa 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpauliks Posted January 25 Share #85 Posted January 25 Just coming home with SL3-S on APS-C. Very happy with the walk and the results at low light! Did use Leica TL 35 f/1.4 tonight Much less to carry than with SL Lux 50 To me personally resolution of 10 MP is sufficient. But matter of personal priorities and preferences of course. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted January 25 Share #86 Posted January 25 46 minutes ago, hdmesa said: If one needed flawless AFc tracking, would the SL3-S be the one to choose? I wouldn't think so. The SL3-S seems to be for those that want to shoot Leica and only occasionally need AFc and/or are ok with the current hit rate. Personally, if I had to rely on the AFc for eye-AF professionally, there's no way I'd choose anything but a current Canon or Sony system (not even Nikon). Edit: bracing for the incoming "how did we do it in the days before autofocus" crowd 😵💫 Flawless AF-C+ tracking does not exist. Some cameras do it better, some worse. I am more interested in AF-C than subject detection and tracking. I have not gathered enough experience, but the SL3-S seems much closer to what I am used to with my DSLRs. It may be that AF-C is now good enough to become my default setting on the SL3-S. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpauliks Posted January 25 Share #87 Posted January 25 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Forget about your techi gimmimimicks! It is the flow and love to your cam which is key https://maps.app.goo.gl/EiFZ4W9kNekDipei7 Edited January 25 by mpauliks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpauliks Posted January 26 Share #88 Posted January 26 (edited) double post Edited January 26 by mpauliks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmesa Posted January 26 Share #89 Posted January 26 6 hours ago, SrMi said: Flawless AF-C+ tracking does not exist... True, which is why I'd still choose an R5 Mark II or one of Sony's current stacked sensor cameras. I don't have the SL3-S, but I did have the S5IIX for a while – long enough to know the AFc was good enough but not on the same level as Canon – at least not at f/2 for hitting the iris. You've had or have the R5, right? I had extremely high hit rate on the iris with their eye-AF even at f/1.2. Not flawless, but pretty close. Of course grandiose statements like that become less so the more challenging the movement 🙃 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpauliks Posted January 26 Share #90 Posted January 26 vor 6 Minuten schrieb hdmesa: True, which is why I'd still choose an R5 Mark II or one of Sony's current stacked sensor cameras. I don't have the SL3-S, but I did have the S5IIX for a while – long enough to know the AFc was good enough but not on the same level as Canon – at least not at f/2 for hitting the iris. You've had or have the R5, right? I had extremely high hit rate on the iris with their eye-AF even at f/1.2. Not flawless, but pretty close. Of course grandiose statements like that become less so the more challenging the movement 🙃 Can you >feel you Canon and Sonys? I mean emotionally? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmesa Posted January 26 Share #91 Posted January 26 (edited) 11 minutes ago, mpauliks said: Can you >feel you Canon and Sonys? I mean emotionally? No, which is why I'd only buy one if I needed it professionally. Canon feels great in the hand, but it's not very inspiring as a physical object. That said, they both have a few lenses that are emotionally compelling, such as their 50 1.2s and 28-70 f/2s. The new Sigma 50 1.2 and 28-45 1.8 would be my choices for L-mount and are just as inspiring in rendering. Edited January 26 by hdmesa 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpauliks Posted January 26 Share #92 Posted January 26 (edited) vor 25 Minuten schrieb hdmesa: No, which is why I'd only buy one if I needed it professionally. Canon feels great in the hand, but it's not very inspiring as a physical object. That said, they both have a few lenses that are emotionally compelling, such as their 50 1.2s and 28-70 f/2s. The new Sigma 50 1.2 and 28-45 1.8 would be my choices for L-mount and are just as inspiring in rendering. I understand you as a Pro. For me as amateur is the emotional tie important. No doubt about lenses please! SL3 was for me like a work horse! I could do more creative images with my M 246. SL3-S feels different to me. Can get more creative images out of it! But this is all emotional please. Edited January 26 by mpauliks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted January 26 Share #93 Posted January 26 (edited) I'm liking the shadow detailI get from my SL3-S in low light scruffy after snow shots: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! SL3-S, SL 35/2.0 Edited January 26 by scott kirkpatrick 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! SL3-S, SL 35/2.0 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/418736-the-leica-sl3-s-review-by-jonathan-slack/?do=findComment&comment=5746495'>More sharing options...
hdmesa Posted January 26 Share #94 Posted January 26 1 hour ago, mpauliks said: I understand you as a Pro. For me as amateur is the emotional tie important. No doubt about lenses please! SL3 was for me like a work horse! I could do more creative images with my M 246. SL3-S feels different to me. Can get more creative images out of it! But this is all emotional please. I was agreeing with you. I said if I was a pro, I might need/choose something else. I'm not, and I use the SL2-S 👍 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpauliks Posted January 26 Share #95 Posted January 26 vor 41 Minuten schrieb scott kirkpatrick: I'm liking the shadow detailI get from my SL3-S in low light scruffy after snow shots: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! SL3-S, SL 35/2.0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 26 Share #96 Posted January 26 Please start an image thread,Keep threads like this clear for discussing the camera 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted January 26 Author Share #97 Posted January 26 11 hours ago, hdmesa said: True, which is why I'd still choose an R5 Mark II or one of Sony's current stacked sensor cameras. I don't have the SL3-S, but I did have the S5IIX for a while – long enough to know the AFc was good enough but not on the same level as Canon – at least not at f/2 for hitting the iris. You've had or have the R5, right? I had extremely high hit rate on the iris with their eye-AF even at f/1.2. Not flawless, but pretty close. Of course grandiose statements like that become less so the more challenging the movement 🙃 I've been having some very good results with the OM-1 ii - of course there are the shortcomings of the µ43 sensor, but this is a stacked sensor, probably akin to a cut down A1 sensor (but I don't know for sure). . . Focusing performance seems to be up there with the Sony A1 (haven't tried the new one). . . and although it might not be as loveable as an SLx-S, it's not bad, and there are a bunch of lovely small lenses too. Pre-Capture is really useful too. 🤷♂️ best Jono 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted January 26 Share #98 Posted January 26 3 hours ago, jonoslack said: I've been having some very good results with the OM-1 ii - of course there are the shortcomings of the µ43 sensor, but this is a stacked sensor, probably akin to a cut down A1 sensor (but I don't know for sure). . . Focusing performance seems to be up there with the Sony A1 (haven't tried the new one). . . and although it might not be as loveable as an SLx-S, it's not bad, and there are a bunch of lovely small lenses too. Pre-Capture is really useful too. 🤷♂️ best Jono +1 for OM-1 II. P.S.: It has a stacked Quad Bayer (80MP) Quad Pixel AF sensor with a readout speed of 1/120th of a second. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmesa Posted January 27 Share #99 Posted January 27 On 1/23/2025 at 1:52 PM, jonoslack said: They are if someone pays them! Looks like it's time for Leica to open up their wallets to Panasonic. Just saw this: Panasonic is serious about their S5II/X even two years later. But I'm not so sure that Leica is overly concerned about keeping up with the S5II/X since they didn't even launch the SL3-S with anamorphic support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 27 Share #100 Posted January 27 Not really surprising. Leica builds stills cameras with very good video added; Panasonic builds video cameras with very good stills added. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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