fiatlux Posted January 10 Share #1 Posted January 10 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am a 28/50mm kind of guy and the 28mm Summicron and 50 Summilux ASPH are by far my most used M lenses (currently shooting an M10). I also find myself occasionally using the 50mm crop on my Q2m. I know the M11 has a 1.8x crop mode which would also result in a 50mm-equivalent field of view with a 28mm mounted, but what I was wondering is if the M11 was "clever" enough to show the 50mm framelines in the rangefinder window when engaging the 1.8x crop mode with a 28mm mounted, without having to manually push the image field selector. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Elliot Harper Posted January 10 Share #2 Posted January 10 You are basically asking to enable the digital zoom in rangefinder. The answer is no! Never! Currently crop mode is available in live view, you have your whole LCD screen as the frameline Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobW0 Posted January 10 Share #3 Posted January 10 (edited) 44 minutes ago, fiatlux said: I am a 28/50mm kind of guy and the 28mm Summicron and 50 Summilux ASPH are by far my most used M lenses (currently shooting an M10). I also find myself occasionally using the 50mm crop on my Q2m. I know the M11 has a 1.8x crop mode which would also result in a 50mm-equivalent field of view with a 28mm mounted, but what I was wondering is if the M11 was "clever" enough to show the 50mm framelines in the rangefinder window when engaging the 1.8x crop mode with a 28mm mounted, without having to manually push the image field selector. The M11 and the M10 are not clever enough to do this on there own, but they are clever enough to it if you move the frame line lever to display the 50mm frame lines. The 50mm frame lines with be displayed as long as you hold the lever in that position. Edited January 10 by RobW0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiatlux Posted January 10 Author Share #4 Posted January 10 1 hour ago, RobW0 said: The M11 and the M10 are not clever enough to do this on there own, but they are clever enough to it if you move the frame line lever to display the 50mm frame lines. Well, the M10 does not have a crop mode 😉 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesphoto99 Posted January 10 Share #5 Posted January 10 1 hour ago, fiatlux said: Well, the M10 does not have a crop mode 😉 Sure it does. It's called Lightroom, Capture One, DXO Raw, Darktable, Affinity photo, On1, Preview on a Mac, etc etc... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 10 Share #6 Posted January 10 Be it in RF or LV mode, mechanical frame lines depend upon the focal length of mounted lenses, 90/28 for 28mm or 90mm lenses for instance, while electronic frame lines depend on the digital zoom setting, 1.3x or 1.8x, let alone perspective control but this is another story. As suggested in this thread, it prevents confusion with frame line mismatches and/or accidentally forgetting to turn the zoom off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted January 11 Share #7 Posted January 11 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 1/10/2025 at 7:49 AM, fiatlux said: I know the M11 has a 1.8x crop mode which would also result in a 50mm-equivalent field of view with a 28mm mounted, but what I was wondering is if the M11 was "clever" enough to show the 50mm framelines in the rangefinder window when engaging the 1.8x crop mode with a 28mm mounted, without having to manually push the image field selector. there is no such a RF option, but keep in mind that the DNG file is still full frame, and the JPG is the cropped one. Just like Q cameras, only Lightroom understands the crop reframe, and you can still edit it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted January 11 Share #8 Posted January 11 On 1/10/2025 at 5:49 AM, fiatlux said: what I was wondering is if the M11 was "clever" enough to show the 50mm framelines in the rangefinder window when engaging the 1.8x crop mode with a 28mm mounted, without having to manually push the image field selector. The framelines in Digital Ms are essentially the same mechanical devices used ever since 1954 - slits or stencils or slots cut into solid metal masks. https://cameraquest.com/Epson-R-D1/_r-d1/jlw_R-D1/source/r-d1_07.html And paired in unalterable combinations 50/75, 28/90, 35/135. No amount of "cleverness" (as in computer signals) can change them, any more than computer cleverness alone can bend a metal crowbar. Mechanical and optical cleverness (usually very bulky "goggles") have been used in the past to change the magnification of the viewfinder, so that a 35mm lens can "squeeze the 35mm view of the world" to fit into the area of the 50mm framelines. Or magnify the world being seen, so that the solid 90mm framelines (without themselves being changed) crop for a 135mm view. http://wiki.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/images/8/8c/M-35f2-ib.jpg http://wiki.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/images/1/11/M-135f28-i.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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