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Genoweffa Posted January 10 Author Share #44 Posted January 10 1 hour ago, Postelnikov said: I am sorry, but you continue to explain yourself and every time show that you think people that use Leica M do not understand something that you understand. You say about religion. Religion means to choose something on believe and dogma, but not logic. So you basically call M users stupid fanatics. What kind of quirk of process are you talking about? Manual focus? What kind of photos are you doing? Most of my landscapes are manual. Some of my safari shots are manual focusing. Reportage shots are manual focus. I love auto focus, but it is a necessity not 100%. But weight is. The main problem with M for me is not TTL, but IBIS. I am returning to the question - what kind of photography are you doing? When I am in a small workshop in Kolkata I really don’t want an SL. Because it is scary for people. And then you compare body size and SL 35 Apo to M35 Apo. And SL is better, but not by a mile. So for things like this M is better than SL. Period. Lightness, speed, battery (yes, battery), and the possibility not to scare those who you are shooting. I have SL system and M system, and if you ask me to choose one, I will choose M. I used M in Iceland, Greenland on a boat, Lofotens in rain, and used it in minus 20 to make Aurora photos in Finland. Was it wise? No, I didn’t have a budget for SL, so I used what I had. Still got okay results. Every camera is compromise, as I told you before - you be you. But don’t call other people religious, because they made other decision then you. As to the original question - buy 21 Apo SL. One of the best lenses in the SL line-up. 21 Summilux is huge as well. SL with IBIS will give you the same range with 2.0. Hi...thanks for your extensive input and your interpretations of my interpretations...wish you more great travels, be good. 10-4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filip Baraka Posted January 13 Share #45 Posted January 13 On 1/10/2025 at 1:13 AM, Postelnikov said: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Some really good landscapes, well done! Patagonia, right? Love the photographer near the lake. 21mm apo is surely my next lens 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T25UFO Posted January 14 Share #46 Posted January 14 An interesting topic, but if you own both M and s cameras then surely the M lens should be preferred because you can use on both systems. The SL 21 might be better wide open, but do we really shoot that many wide open photos with a 21mm? For landscape depth of field a smaller aperture is normally used and is there really much difference in these two lenses at 5.6 or 8.0? A 21mm doesn't need auto focus and the M lens is half the cost. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoin Posted January 14 Share #47 Posted January 14 Advertisement (gone after registration) 14 minutes ago, T25UFO said: An interesting topic, but if you own both M and s cameras then surely the M lens should be preferred because you can use on both systems. The SL 21 might be better wide open, but do we really shoot that many wide open photos with a 21mm? For landscape depth of field a smaller aperture is normally used and is there really much difference in these two lenses at 5.6 or 8.0? A 21mm doesn't need auto focus and the M lens is half the cost. If you read the thread the two specific lenses are Summilux-M 21 and Super APO Summicron-SL 21. There is a world of difference between when both of them are wide open and also when both are stopped down. Also both lenses are in the same ball park price wise, 2nd hand (possibly the Summilux slightly more expensive) 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postelnikov Posted January 14 Share #48 Posted January 14 (edited) On 1/13/2025 at 7:56 PM, Filip Baraka said: Some really good landscapes, well done! Patagonia, right? Love the photographer near the lake. 21mm apo is surely my next lens Thx, it is Patagonia, what a place! Even on iPhone shots from there are epic, so it is a more question of place and not photographer) But the funny thing is that I loved taking more photos with my 16-35 and 24-90. Just because of their versatility. The 21mm APO lens is technically much better than I can show in my photography, and when you are in windy conditions, it is just easier to use the 16-35 (and for landscapes you still more close to f7). Before this lens, I was a total prime believer, but for landscapes, the 16-35 is freaking amazing. here are some shots from same trip with 16-35 and 24-90 Edited January 14 by Postelnikov 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T25UFO Posted January 14 Share #49 Posted January 14 5 hours ago, Eoin said: If you read the thread the two specific lenses are Summilux-M 21 and Super APO Summicron-SL 21. There is a world of difference between when both of them are wide open and also when both are stopped down. Also both lenses are in the same ball park price wise, 2nd hand (possibly the Summilux slightly more expensive) Silly mistake - didn’t read the subject heading 😕. Given the choice, I would probably still go for the cheaper, smaller, lighter SEM, but that’s just me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoin Posted January 14 Share #50 Posted January 14 3 minutes ago, T25UFO said: Silly mistake - didn’t read the subject heading 😕. Given the choice, I would probably still go for the cheaper, smaller, lighter SEM, but that’s just me. You’re not wrong in that choice, great lens. 😉 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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