fast shutter speed needed for handheld?

[Jon Warwick]

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Try using electronic shutter with the M11 rather than mechanical? It’s a bit odd not hearing any noise of the shutter, but it might help reduce any vibration 

[pegelli]

On 1/6/2025 at 2:12 PM, Sergius said:

I would like to handle the m11 like my m9. This is my goal. Will the results regarding motion blur be the same?
 

It all depends on your boundary conditions for "the same"

If you compare prints of the same size I think you'll see very little difference, if you enlarge at 100% on your computer screen the M11 will probably reveal more motion blur vs. an M9.

As Jaapv said earlier in this thread, it's all a matter of magnification. 

[DadDadDaddyo]

We use pixel binning in Astrophotography also. Here's a fair explanation...

https://www.technexion.com/resources/what-is-pixel-binning-in-embedded-cameras/#:~:text=Pixel binning is the process,frame rate or exposure time.

It's not a crop (Digital zoom), though they're often confused...

[davidmknoble]

This discussion has occurred with each advance in digital sensors from the M8 forward. Smaller pixel size hides small flaws (very slight movement and high ISO noise) for smaller sized prints.  To use the full pixel resolution is no different than using slow speed film as someone else noted here.

In general, I think the idea is that it is better to get the photograph (the moment) than lose it by fiddling with a camera.  Yet, I think it also depends on the subject choice.  If one shoots a landscape, why not use a tripod?  It does not make sense to try and get large depth of field with the best dynamic range and then sacrifice the image because of camera shake.  My opinion is that this is true even with the SL system and IBIS. (Same with portraits)

However, if one is shooting travel, street, documentary, then a tripod would actually hinder the shot.  So, one has to make the choice of higher ISO noise or camera shake.  Blurring movement is different, because something else would need to be sharp, the subject is moving, not the camera. 

Ultimate printing size is also important, but if printing large, then the decision is clear - higher ISO and higher shutter speeds.  Leica cameras have nicer noise than most and monochrom bodies even better ‘noise.’  So, just like the 1980’s, pick the film for the job.  Tri-X 400 or Kodachrome 64, but be prepared to deal with it.  I think it is also relevant to use your body or walls, lamp posts, etc. To help steady the camera, but in the end its about knowing your limits, and that comes with shooting lots of images.

My opinions of course.

[Alberti]

The M11M looks promissing as it has a binning method to overcome some of the stated problems: use the ‘low res’ 18MP standard, and when the circomstances are right (outside sun) go full res with >1/4F such as 1/500sec. 

Note I can get blurry pictures at even <1/500 for some reason on my M10R but that is intended so by Leitz just to keep me awake at night 😙

Edited January 24 by Alberti

[SrMi]

From link in post #23:

Pixel binning is the process of combining data from multiple pixels into one. This gives the new ‘super pixel’ access to more photons without having to play with the frame rate or exposure time. 

Leica cameras do not use pixel binning but smart resizing. The effect is similar to what you can do in the post.