Photoworks Posted January 14 Share #301 Posted January 14 Advertisement (gone after registration) 47 minutes ago, tom0511 said: one important thing would be that the viewfinder doesn't blur in c-af, like it does in all existent SL (..2..3) bodies. you are probably going to be disappointed... I do see the same on other cameras like sony 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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frankchn Posted January 14 Share #302 Posted January 14 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Photoworks said: you are probably going to be disappointed... I do see the same on other cameras like sony It can be done. The R1 has a 24 MP sensor and a 9.4Mdot EVF and it doesn't blur as I autofocus, as far as I can tell. The A9III does blur sometimes. Edited January 14 by frankchn 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted January 14 Share #303 Posted January 14 (edited) For the EVF, far more important for me is not the resolution, the colours, or whether it dims/blurs, but how little lag it has. This has always been my priority. The SL2 and SL2-S were much better than the SL, which in turn was much better than the M Viso (disastrously bad), TL2 (bad) and CL (not good, but I could work with it). They are still not close enough to real world zero lag for me. The less lag, the more I can rely on my reflexes and the less I have to do in burst mode. Edited January 14 by LocalHero1953 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomasis7 Posted January 15 Share #304 Posted January 15 12 hours ago, hansvons said: That is not true at all. Cooke's latest S7 will very likely outperform the APO SL lenses, at least in speed . Similar things can be said about the Leitz Primes or Arri's Signature Primes. Speed seems to be more important for videographers. However, when it comes to achieving the desired 'image quality' or whatever it may be, no one buys a Leica APO as a budget lens. Videographers are more likely to afford an APO lens than photographers, considering that the set of lenses you mentioned above costs as much as a house. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansvons Posted January 15 Share #305 Posted January 15 (edited) 24 minutes ago, tomasis7 said: no one buys a Leica APO as a budget lens. Right. Because it’s not exactly an affordable lens. Leica’s SL APOs are the most interesting modern AF lenses on the market. If I were a professional photographer, and were after a modern look, they were my first choice, notably the 35mm and the 75mm. The APOs are the main reason why an SL3-S makes professionally sense. 24 minutes ago, tomasis7 said: Videographers are more likely to afford an APO lens than photographers, considering that the set of lenses you mentioned above costs as much as a house. No one owns these lenses. Rental shops provide them and rent them out bundled with camera bodies, etc. BTW, photographers rent, too. Owning gear restricts you and can be costly when not used regularly. I only own equipment that I use daily. Edited January 15 by hansvons 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansvons Posted January 15 Share #306 Posted January 15 (edited) 7 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said: They are still not close enough to real world zero lag for me. The less lag, the more I can rely on my reflexes and the less I have to do in burst mode. Interesting point and totally annoying issue. One reason why the M is so unique and brilliant. When working with people, I look at them with my left eye while my right eye oversees the farming somewhat vegetatively. The beauty of AF is that you don’t have to worry about focus. Thus, the right eye isn’t required to take all the burden, including figuring out the decisive moment. I dislike shooting burst. Highly distracting. Definitely not a viable solution. Edited January 15 by hansvons 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted January 15 Share #307 Posted January 15 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 55 minutes ago, hansvons said: I dislike shooting burst. Highly distracting. Definitely not a viable solution. It's a last resort AFAIC. My feelings are coloured by those with expensive (D)SLRs rattling away like machine guns at weddings and other occasions where the photographer, pro or amateur, should be inaudible in the background. To my surprise, I am still told that one of the reasons I've been asked back to take photographs of live performances is because no one knew I was there (I hope they like my photos as well.....). Edited January 15 by LocalHero1953 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted January 15 Share #308 Posted January 15 57 minutes ago, LocalHero1953 said: ...because no one knew I was there (I hope they like my photos as well.....). It's likely the opposite; firstly that you take photos that the theatre/dancing/etc groups like (*), and secondly that you do this without audible interference. (*) I certainly do based on what you have posted on the forum pages... 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
costa43 Posted January 15 Share #309 Posted January 15 Leica tends to rely quite heavily on it's existing base to upgrade so the next model usually comes with a lot of new bells and whistles. With this one, I can see the new body being appealing to some and the bump in AF but I do not see this camera getting more hardware tech than the SL3 besides the content authentication. I think the autofocus would have to be stellar rather than just a bit better for this camera to have a big impact. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 15 Share #310 Posted January 15 To me the main attraction of the SL3S is that it halved the price of the SL2S. Anyway, it is not meant as an upgrade to the SL3, which is aimed at a completely different audience, but to the SL2S. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted January 15 Share #311 Posted January 15 vor 15 Stunden schrieb Photoworks: you are probably going to be disappointed... I do see the same on other cameras like sony My Canon R5 and R3 can do it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted January 15 Share #312 Posted January 15 I also dont like burst shooting for people images. But it does help when shooting fast sports, like getting the best moment of a jump with surfboard, or throwing to the goal in handball for example. My dream is to sell my Canon gear and use my SL gear also for these kind of things, I tried the SL2-s and SL3 - the SL3 has become better, but the blurry viewfinder gives a bad feedback during a burst, and you only know afterwards, if you got the shot or not. I feel disconnected. With the R3 this is much better, and I hope SL3-S will go a step forward here. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 15 Share #313 Posted January 15 4 minutes ago, tom0511 said: I also dont like burst shooting for people images. But it does help when shooting fast sports, like getting the best moment of a jump with surfboard, or throwing to the goal in handball for example. My dream is to sell my Canon gear and use my SL gear also for these kind of things, I tried the SL2-s and SL3 - the SL3 has become better, but the blurry viewfinder gives a bad feedback during a burst, and you only know afterwards, if you got the shot or not. I feel disconnected. With the R3 this is much better, and I hope SL3-S will go a step forward here. If the SL3S has a (improved?) version of the S5ii you might be OK with it. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted January 15 Share #314 Posted January 15 22 minutes ago, tom0511 said: I also dont like burst shooting for people images. But it does help when shooting fast sports, like getting the best moment of a jump with surfboard, or throwing to the goal in handball for example. My dream is to sell my Canon gear and use my SL gear also for these kind of things, I tried the SL2-s and SL3 - the SL3 has become better, but the blurry viewfinder gives a bad feedback during a burst, and you only know afterwards, if you got the shot or not. I feel disconnected. With the R3 this is much better, and I hope SL3-S will go a step forward here. +1. Having a usable L-mount body for similar shooting situations is also a hope for me. It will come, possibly SL3-S is there (or one of the forthcoming Lumix FF bodies). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 15 Share #315 Posted January 15 16 minutes ago, helged said: +1. Having a usable L-mount body for similar shooting situations is also a hope for me. It will come, possibly SL3-S is there (or one of the forthcoming Lumix FF bodies). https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4742327 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted January 15 Share #316 Posted January 15 vor 10 Minuten schrieb jaapv: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4742327 Hi there, this rumor about Panasonic is one year old and nothing appeared. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 15 Share #317 Posted January 15 OK - 2 days ago then: https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/news/camera-rumors/6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronilux Posted January 15 Share #318 Posted January 15 Specs of the SL3-S: https://leicarumors.com/2025/01/13/here-are-the-leica-sl3-s-camera-specifications.aspx/amp/ What are we thinking? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALScott Posted January 15 Share #319 Posted January 15 In order to upgrade the AF to today's standards they must throw some "AI" in there somewhere. If they do that everyone who want's a Sony, Canon or Nikon in a Leica body will be happy...😜 I am excited about this body no matter what but I think I am fairly easy to please right now. Glad to be enjoying photography again and glad I got back in with Leica. It's not perfect but none of the gear I have ever had was. Even though SL3 AF supposedly isn't "great" I am sure I would struggle with any of the others as all AF systems have changed by leaps and bounds from my last new camera, a Canon 6D. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted January 15 Share #320 Posted January 15 40 minutes ago, Cronilux said: Specs of the SL3-S: https://leicarumors.com/2025/01/13/here-are-the-leica-sl3-s-camera-specifications.aspx/amp/ What are we thinking? Rewind to post #219 😉 and scan from there... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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