The Q3 43mm and Q3(2,1) 28mm - an ideal combo?

[JTLeica]

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On 10/4/2024 at 3:37 PM, wellknown said:

This certainly works, if one wants to use a certain part of the picture taken. Where it doesn’t work, is for creating the unique look of o longer focal length. Big nose close up portraits won’t happen with 43mm and the background is definitely a lot more compressed than with 28 (or lower). Having both doesn’t mean never ever cropping a 28mm image to 35 or 40 - this will certainly happen, as you might just have the 28 at hand. But the fun begins starting at 43 natively and maybe cropping to 50-70 sometimes. 28 - 70 covered with lightweight summilux and cron apo lenses, tilting screens, weathersealing, same batteries, same UI, fitting into a small bag if taken out together… tempting to me. 

Yes agree. The weather sealing and 25-50 (80% of my shooting) covered at 60mp in a small and also safe (two bodies for redundancy) is great.

Though ‘compression’ isn’t real. Cropping is the same. Just lower resolution 

[JTLeica]

8 hours ago, Dr. G said:

I keep rethinking this, wanting to carry the same, but I always copped my Q3 to something tighter.  Lately I've been using the 21 APO a lot more and I almost never crop it.  So my eye just doesn't get along with 28mm.  

You poor chap, forced into using your SL3 and 21 APO, and 43 APO Q. 😆

Cant think of a better combo really. Add a 75/90 and is perfection.

[Foxfan100]

I have the Q3, and have just bought the Q3 43. My other Leicas and various lenses have been barely touched, and I think will only come out for special occasions (shift/tilt architecture, some telephoto etc.) as these two look as if they cover all my particular wants. Much as I like 28mm, the 43 seems to be "righter" to me.

[Dr. G]

5 hours ago, JTLeica said:

You poor chap, forced into using your SL3 and 21 APO, and 43 APO Q. 😆

Cant think of a better combo really. Add a 75/90 and is perfection.

I have the 75 APO.  It’s the reason I’ll never sell the SL system.  Probably my favorite lens that I’ve used.

I was approaching the question from a travel standpoint.  Carrying both the SL3 and Q3 43 with the two APO SL lenses can feel heavy after a while.

[JTLeica]

53 minutes ago, Dr. G said:

I have the 75 APO.  It’s the reason I’ll never sell the SL system.  Probably my favorite lens that I’ve used.

I was approaching the question from a travel standpoint.  Carrying both the SL3 and Q3 43 with the two APO SL lenses can feel heavy after a while.

No I was only messing with you, agree it’s not small or light. I’d highly recommend the 20mm and 65mm sigma lenses and they are small and light. Not quite APO Leica SL quality but not far off 

I think the Two Q’s are great partners. I would now like a 24mm APO Q4

[Tseg]

1 hour ago, JTLeica said:

I would now like a 24mm APO Q4

^^^^ this is what I'm holding out for next, now that the Q3 43 is about to arrive.

[Dr. G]

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1 hour ago, Tseg said:

^^^^ this is what I'm holding out for next, now that the Q3 43 is about to arrive.

A 24mm Q that's 2mm wider than the current Q or a 24mm Q that's really 21-22mm?

[JTLeica]

15 minutes ago, Dr. G said:

A 24mm Q that's 2mm wider than the current Q or a 24mm Q that's really 21-22mm?

Haha, I would take a 21 or 24, 24 ideally. But I mean it all replace the 28Q altogether. I think next Q will have a new lens, Q4 43, and then a Q4 24 or 28 APO is my guess. Cant see them staying with the Summilux. Not that its bad at all.

[hoolyproductions]

I've had my Q3 43 for a couple of weeks and I really like it. Other than in very very low light the image quality is on a par with my SL2-S. For me the other advantages of the SL line (ergonomics, extra customisability, better EVF, better in very dynamic situations, better weather sealing) still make it my preferred camera for certain types of photography, but the Q3 43 is awesome for occassions when I need/want to travel light or just take some (very high quality) candid shots.

Until now I've been mostly using the almost twice as heavy and bulky SL2-S + 50mm SL ASPH for occassions when I want to travel light as possible.

I've been enjoying it so much I got some GAS exploring the idea of also picking up a Q3 to have a wider option. Whilst I like the idea I do not think it really makes sense for me so am resisting:

• If I want to have a wider option I can carry SL2-S + 50mm ASPH + 24mm Sigma - just slightly heavier than two Q3's, albeit the wide lens is not very fast
• When I look at the main situations/use cases where I take photographs I think I would only use 2xQ3 in quite niche situations, it would mostly sit on a shelf depreciating in value
• There is no scenario where I would take a Q3 alone, rather than the Q3 43 (just due to my personal focal length preferences)

I am posting this mostly to keep myself in line and not succumb to GAS 

[JTLeica]

12 minutes ago, hoolyproductions said:

I've had my Q3 43 for a couple of weeks and I really like it. Other than in very very low light the image quality is on a par with my SL2-S. For me the other advantages of the SL line (ergonomics, extra customisability, better EVF, better in very dynamic situations, better weather sealing) still make it my preferred camera for certain types of photography, but the Q3 43 is awesome for occassions when I need/want to travel light or just take some (very high quality) candid shots.

Until now I've been mostly using the almost twice as heavy and bulky SL2-S + 50mm SL ASPH for occassions when I want to travel light as possible.

I've been enjoying it so much I got some GAS exploring the idea of also picking up a Q3 to have a wider option. Whilst I like the idea I do not think it really makes sense for me so am resisting:

• If I want to have a wider option I can carry SL2-S + 50mm ASPH + 24mm Sigma - just slightly heavier than two Q3's, albeit the wide lens is not very fast
• When I look at the main situations/use cases where I take photographs I think I would only use 2xQ3 in quite niche situations, it would mostly sit on a shelf depreciating in value
• There is no scenario where I would take a Q3 alone, rather than the Q3 43 (just due to my personal focal length preferences)

I am posting this mostly to keep myself in line and not succumb to GAS 

Think about your poor lonely Q3 43, the SL has lenses to keep it company, but not your Q3 43, you should get it a friend.

And lets be honest, the IQ from the Q43 is a lot better than the 24mp SL with 50mm Cron ASPH - you know its true 🤣

Edited October 25, 2024 by JTLeica

[hoolyproductions]

Just now, JTLeica said:

And lets be honest, the IQ from the Q43 is a lot better than the 24mp SL with 50mm Cron ASPH - you know its true 🤣

I have an SL3 on the way (one day) plus anyway don't really agree, even at 24mp the SL2-S is phenomenal and almost no limit on the ablity to crop 😋

[Foxfan100]

I have a Q3 and an SL2-S, and other Leicas, and I was thinking about going the SL3 route, at the time the 43 was announced. Much as I like exchangeable lens cameras, I thought long and hard about what I think were my better photographs. It struck me that many were on other fixed lens cameras (Fuji X100T/X70). and going back through thousands of contact prints and transparencies from my Nikon F series (F2AS, F2SB and F3) film days, I mostly stuck with one lens; either 50mm or sometimes the maligned 43-86 Nikkor zoom, which I still have

I therefore decided to buy the Q3 43 as well, and perhaps sit it out in hopes of an SL3-S arriving one day.

As I age, the joys of lugging around heavy hardware begin to wane, and the Q3 pair suit me very well.

[zyThuM]

I ordered a Q3 43 this morning. I've the Q3 since it was released and before that a Q2. I don't know yet what I'm going to do, either keeping both Q3s or keeping only the Q3 43 as I've other alternatives to cover the focus distances below 43mm. Either with my Leica M10 (which nowadays I only use when I need 21mm) or with my Leica DLux8 (Yes this small camera produces very good images!). 

Why did Leica come up with the Q3 43? I was so happy with my cameras... Or at least I thought so... 

 

[JTLeica]

20 minutes ago, zyThuM said:

I ordered a Q3 43 this morning. I've the Q3 since it was released and before that a Q2. I don't know yet what I'm going to do, either keeping both Q3s or keeping only the Q3 43 as I've other alternatives to cover the focus distances below 43mm. Either with my Leica M10 (which nowadays I only use when I need 21mm) or with my Leica DLux8 (Yes this small camera produces very good images!). 

Why did Leica come up with the Q3 43? I was so happy with my cameras... Or at least I thought so... 

 

I am going to help you.

When you are about to die, how much will you miss the 4-5000 that you could have one had, if you sold the Q3 28? Or a smaller amount if you sold the others.

Edited October 25, 2024 by JTLeica

[Likaleica]

2 hours ago, JTLeica said:

I am going to help you.

When you are about to die, how much will you miss the 4-5000 that you could have one had, if you sold the Q3 28? Or a smaller amount if you sold the others.

Just checked out your website and 500px.  Very nice photos!

[JTLeica]

15 hours ago, Likaleica said:

Just checked out your website and 500px.  Very nice photos!

Thank you, my 500px is dead now and well out of date I should remove the link

Instagram is the most up to date but it’s such a terrible platform for landscapes 

[Daniel C.1975]

Hi all, 

 

you might call me crazy, but I am also thinking about owning both, the Q3 and the Q3 43. I have the Q3 and the SL2s with the 24-90, the Pana 1.8 50 and the Sigma 105mm macro. I also had the 35mm Apo and the 75mm Apo, but sold them as I have used them too less since having the Q2 and then the 24-90. The Pana I like less and less. It is sharp, but the rendering compared to the Leica lenses is awkward and kind of artificial. 

I really love this 35 year hobby, but I am also not so keen any more to lift heavy luggage around. Therefore,  80% of my fotos are meanwhile done with the Q3, for the last holidays I even left the SL2s at home. I always was more of a 35mm type of person, but learned with the original Q to love the 28mm. And with the Q3, we still have a kind of 35mm f2.1 with less resolution. 

As my work-life is kind of extreme this year, there is less time for photos and when there is time, I am currently less willing to carry heavy. 

So my thought is to sell the SL2s and buy the Q3 43 - which is not a super sound thought  😉 - I can also effort both, but normally I apply some financial rules on my hobbies. Even if my wife said - go ahead an buy it 😄

 

I love the Q3 form factor and I really like what I have seen so far with Q3 43. The rendering, the transition from sharp to blurry is all very appealing to me. Still, it would be another insane 6.7k to then face the problem of which camera should join me on my trips. Currently that's simple, most of the time I just grab the Q3, but with two Q3s it's again choices 😄

 

Long story short, it is not about money but about adding more complexity into my leisure-time decision processes. Which is kind of insane for itself. 

 

I am not super serious about all of this, not at all. Just some thoughts I could imagine other Q3 owners share 😉

[Kim Dahl]

It's not a stupid thought. I'll go with the same one.

I am considering buying the Q3 43 (I have a Q3 and love it dearly)

But it is not - for me - good for portraits. 

I know the SL3 with an APO 75 or similar would be a better choice.

But I don't want to carry the weight.

So for me I think I'll go with the Q3 43.

I've seen some really good portraits etc.

But well seen - I think several people have your thoughts right now.

[Silfveroxel]

1 hour ago, Daniel C.1975 said:

Hi all, 

 

you might call me crazy, but I am also thinking about owning both, the Q3 and the Q3 43. I have the Q3 and the SL2s with the 24-90, the Pana 1.8 50 and the Sigma 105mm macro. I also had the 35mm Apo and the 75mm Apo, but sold them as I have used them too less since having the Q2 and then the 24-90. The Pana I like less and less. It is sharp, but the rendering compared to the Leica lenses is awkward and kind of artificial. 

I really love this 35 year hobby, but I am also not so keen any more to lift heavy luggage around. Therefore,  80% of my fotos are meanwhile done with the Q3, for the last holidays I even left the SL2s at home. I always was more of a 35mm type of person, but learned with the original Q to love the 28mm. And with the Q3, we still have a kind of 35mm f2.1 with less resolution. 

As my work-life is kind of extreme this year, there is less time for photos and when there is time, I am currently less willing to carry heavy. 

So my thought is to sell the SL2s and buy the Q3 43 - which is not a super sound thought  😉 - I can also effort both, but normally I apply some financial rules on my hobbies. Even if my wife said - go ahead an buy it 😄

 

I love the Q3 form factor and I really like what I have seen so far with Q3 43. The rendering, the transition from sharp to blurry is all very appealing to me. Still, it would be another insane 6.7k to then face the problem of which camera should join me on my trips. Currently that's simple, most of the time I just grab the Q3, but with two Q3s it's again choices 😄

 

Long story short, it is not about money but about adding more complexity into my leisure-time decision processes. Which is kind of insane for itself. 

 

I am not super serious about all of this, not at all. Just some thoughts I could imagine other Q3 owners share 😉

Not crazy, or I’m as well? 60+ as soon retirement I’m close the same. Have a om-1 for wildlife and it’s perfect for bird and dogs. Travel my Q2 and soon a Q3-43 as well. Longer trips, both and shorter maybe only one? As 60+ time for a few years only focus on myself and not the kids, family as last 30 years. I regret hosting bad feelings for focus on myself and my happiness for some years 😀

Per

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[stephenmick]

2 hours ago, Daniel C.1975 said:

Hi all, 

 

you might call me crazy, but I am also thinking about owning both, the Q3 and the Q3 43. I have the Q3 and the SL2s with the 24-90, the Pana 1.8 50 and the Sigma 105mm macro. I also had the 35mm Apo and the 75mm Apo, but sold them as I have used them too less since having the Q2 and then the 24-90. The Pana I like less and less. It is sharp, but the rendering compared to the Leica lenses is awkward and kind of artificial. 

I really love this 35 year hobby, but I am also not so keen any more to lift heavy luggage around. Therefore,  80% of my fotos are meanwhile done with the Q3, for the last holidays I even left the SL2s at home. I always was more of a 35mm type of person, but learned with the original Q to love the 28mm. And with the Q3, we still have a kind of 35mm f2.1 with less resolution. 

As my work-life is kind of extreme this year, there is less time for photos and when there is time, I am currently less willing to carry heavy. 

So my thought is to sell the SL2s and buy the Q3 43 - which is not a super sound thought  😉 - I can also effort both, but normally I apply some financial rules on my hobbies. Even if my wife said - go ahead an buy it 😄

 

I love the Q3 form factor and I really like what I have seen so far with Q3 43. The rendering, the transition from sharp to blurry is all very appealing to me. Still, it would be another insane 6.7k to then face the problem of which camera should join me on my trips. Currently that's simple, most of the time I just grab the Q3, but with two Q3s it's again choices 😄

 

Long story short, it is not about money but about adding more complexity into my leisure-time decision processes. Which is kind of insane for itself. 

 

I am not super serious about all of this, not at all. Just some thoughts I could imagine other Q3 owners share 😉

Nothing crazy about this at all. It comes down to understanding the pictures you want to take, and having the camera that inspires you to do that. 

For me, as great as my SL2-S and 24-90 kit is, at my age, I find myself leaving it behind more often than not in favor of the Q2M and (now) the Q343. As a matter of fact, I was just shooting for a client, mainly video, but with some portraits as well. I carried the SL2-S and the Q343, and never took the big boy out of the bag. I took one portrait with the 43, and was blown away. I shot all the remaining client portraits on the 43, and couldn't be happier. (Neither could the client.) 

It's got me considering a Q3 28 as well. I had a Q2, which I loved, but sold when I moved to the Monochrom. But a travel kit with some combination of 28mm (Q2 or Q3) with the 43mm (Q343) would be nearly ideal to me.