A lovely 75 millimetres focal length lens please?

[Julian H]

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I have tried the Summarit and the AASummicron. Didn’t warm to the Summarit but the AA’Cron is wonderful but too big for me.

Does anyone else (like me) crave an Elmarit comparable to a 90 Elmarit-M in 75mm? Something nice and compact but with a lovely IQ?

I feel the 75mm was so much more for me than 90mm, but the options available unfortunately are more limited…

Julian

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[69xchange]

75mm Voigtlander nokton 1.5 for a modern lens. if you have the funds and going after the Mandler look, 75mm lux (any version)

[Julian H]

Hi

Its not about the £££, and the’lux is too big for me.

[Dan Bachmann]

I'm a fan of the discontinued Voigtlander 75mm LTM f/2.5. It's small, light, and I love the rendering; however, there is a problem: many develop haze as the internal glue ages after a decade or so. I've considered the Summarit, Summicron and newer Voigtlanders, but came back to being happy with what I have.

[DigitalHeMan]

The Summicron 75mm is a lovely lens, and not so heavy at only 430g vs 400g for the Elmarit 90mm. You'll forget about that extra weight in no time once you start reviewing the beautiful images you make!

[LocalHero1953]

There is the Leitz Hektor 7.3cm f/1.9 in screw thread, which I have used with an M adapter. A bit rare and pricy these days with clean glass. Voigtlander produced a Heliar 75mm f/1.8 in M mount which is said to be a modern version of the Hektor. The Hektor was a good portrait lens, stopped down for young skin, wide open for wrinklies 😏. Perhaps a bit too much flare/glow in contrasty conditions, but less of a one-trick pony than the Thambar.

[evikne]

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[DigitalHeMan]

6 minutes ago, LocalHero1953 said:

There is the Leitz Hektor 7.3cm f/1.9 in screw thread, which I have used with an M adapter. A bit rare and pricy these days with clean glass. Voigtlander produced a Heliar 75mm f/1.8 in M mount which is said to be a modern version of the Hektor. The Hektor was a good portrait lens, stopped down for young skin, wide open for wrinklies 😏. Perhaps a bit too much flare/glow in contrasty conditions, but less of a one-trick pony than the Thambar.

Surprisingly 30g heavier than a Summicron though, and that's before the extra weight of the M adapter.....

[LocalHero1953]

I'd have thought the AA Summicron-M is as compact as you're likely to get in the bleeding-edge sharpness category - and you already like it. It has the benefit of a closer focus distance than most. I used it a lot (M9, M240) and never found it too big. I now have the Summilux-M 75, which is much bigger, but worth the penalty. 

[LocalHero1953]

4 minutes ago, DigitalHeMan said:

Surprisingly 30g heavier than a Summicron though, and that's before the extra weight of the M adapter.....

I owned it too long ago and had forgotten how it felt. I recall it as long-ish, but surprisingly thin.

[3D-Kraft.com]

I think, the latest (2023) Voigtlander Ultron 75/1.9 (290g only) could be worth a try.
Thypoch has a new Simera 75/1.5 but currently not yet for M-mount.
In the Summarit range, there is the Kipon Iberit 75/2.4, but I have not yet seen much from this. Looks like quality improved over time.

Edited September 28, 2024 by 3D-Kraft.com

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vor 12 Stunden schrieb Julian H:

Didn’t warm to the Summarit-M [...] Does anyone else (like me) crave an Elmarit [...] in 75 mm? Something nice and compact but with a lovely IQ?

The Summarit-M 75 mm is nice and compact and does have a lovely image quality. What's wrong with it in your eyes?

[3D-Kraft.com]

...and if you are a fan of the swirly bokeh look of the Zeiss Biotar 75, there is the new TTArtisan 75/1.5. But already pretty bulky.

[pgk]

14 hours ago, Julian H said:

Didn’t warm to the Summarit .....

Does anyone else (like me) crave an Elmarit comparable to a 90 Elmarit-M in 75mm? Something nice and compact but with a lovely IQ?

I own the 75 Summarit, 90mm Summarit and am selling the 90 Elmarit-M. If you didn't 'warm' to the 75 Summarit (I can't fault it myself) then its unlikely that you'd like a 75 Elmarit-M since all the lenses I mention share similar characteristics.

[adan]

22 hours ago, Julian H said:

Does anyone else (like me) crave an Elmarit comparable to a 90 Elmarit-M in 75mm? Something nice and compact but with a lovely IQ?

I do not.

One of the "unique selling propositions" of 75s vs. 90s is the f/2.0 (or even f/1.4-1.5) apertures for low light - in a smaller, lighter package, and without blocking the RF focusing.

It is the main reason the ~75mm focal length was revived at all in 1980 - after nearly 40 years absence (Hektor f/1.9 dropped 1942): to compete with the photojournalists' Nikon/Canon/Zeiss SLR 85mm f/1.4s - but in Leica-M style.

Personally, like 69exchange, I use the Voigtländer f/1.5 Nokton - light-gathering (or for those who care, bokeh) capability of a Summilux, weight of a Summarit (~340g), technical image quality that matches the f/2.0 ASMA except in the sub-1.5m close-focus range (no floating element) where it gets a little "dreamy," but (speaking of "lovely") with a hint of old-school, delicate, "Mandler/Canada" color and contrast throughout. Excellent flare resistance, with or without the hood.

It is my only lens between 50mm and 135mm (and often, on a particular shoot, between 35mm and 135mm)

I have not tried the 75mm f/1.9 Ultron, but (from various review picture samples, and the optical diagram) I suspect it will be very similar to the Nokton, but more compact and even lighter, at the cost of 0.4-stops of aperture.

https://phillipreeve.net/blog/review-voigtlander-vm-75mm-1-9-ultron/

[Xavier]

I had a 75/2.5 Summarit, liked it but sold it after getting a 90/2.8 Elmarit. I like the 90 but found I prefer 75mm in many situations and also like to have very compact high performance lenses, so I bought the 75/1.9 Ultron. For its size and weight, I find this lens fantastic. Not only image quality is great, but also I very much enjoy closer focusing ability on my SL2-s.

If I had again the choice between the 75 Summarit and the f/1.9 Ultron, I would directly get the Ultron.

[newtoleica]

13 hours ago, 3D-Kraft.com said:

I think, the latest (2023) Voigtlander Ultron 75/1.9 (290g only) could be worth a try.
Thypoch has a new Simera 75/1.5 but currently not yet for M-mount.
In the Summarit range, there is the Kipon Iberit 75/2.4, but I have not yet seen much from this. Looks like quality improved over time.

I bought the Ultron this year after trying to find a used 75 Summicron that was properly focus calibrated… and failing. 
very pleased with the Ultron and have just added an APO lanthar 50. Nice to have affordable options. 

[Dan Bachmann]

17 minutes ago, newtoleica said:

I bought the Ultron this year after trying to find a used 75 Summicron that was properly focus calibrated… and failing. 
very pleased with the Ultron and have just added an APO lanthar 50. Nice to have affordable options. 

My worry about the Voigtlander 75mm 1.9 Ultron is the 0.5m focusing distance. I use the rangefinder for focusing and worry that if I were to shoot at 0.7m according to the finder, I may have it set to less than 0.5m on the lens. Have you come across this situation?

 

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[Stuart Richardson]

If none of the options above suit your fancy, I would suggest a 50mm and cropping. Depending on what body you are currently using, it is a viable option these days. Especially with a top shelf 50mm lens like the 50mm APO Lanthar, for example.

[lct]

Been using my good old Skopar 21/4 for years with its 0.5m MFD. It's easy to see when the rangefinder is no longer coupled, since the RF patch stops moving at that very moment. Not sure where is the problem but i may be missing something.