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[aficionados]

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Seems like Leica has the tradition of oversight on designing hood. Check the recent summilux 35 steel rim reissue, similar story 

[egrossman]

10 hours ago, Leicalookalike said:

So, there no vignetting with this ventilated hood?

Picture of my gray outdoor wall. Only post processing was increasing exposure. There may be some very slight vignetting but it‘s a non-issue for my purposes.

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[Leicalookalike]

vor 2 Minuten schrieb egrossman:

Picture of my gray outdoor wall. Only post processing was increasing exposure. There may be some very slight vignetting but it‘s a non-issue for my purposes.

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Thank you, this helpful. Looks like the ventilated hood is the solution…

[69xchange]

39 minutes ago, aficionados said:

Seems like Leica has the tradition of oversight on designing hood. Check the recent summilux 35 steel rim reissue, similar story 

This time leica acknowledged the issue beforehand ( in the manual ) with no work around. 

[aficionados]

3 hours ago, 69xchange said:

This time leica acknowledged the issue beforehand ( in the manual ) with no work around. 

Then they shouldn’t even have front thread on the lens, claiming this camera to be best used filter-less. Problem solved 

[Leicalookalike]

vor 3 Stunden schrieb 69xchange:

This time leica acknowledged the issue beforehand ( in the manual ) with no work around. 

The workaround is the use of the round lenshood. As mentioned in the manual.

[69xchange]

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2 hours ago, Leicalookalike said:

The workaround is the use of the round lenshood. As mentioned in the manual.

For an additional cost of $230 USD... At least the SR reissue came with two lens hoods in the box with an attempt to be able to use with filter (before the updated lens hood).

Once they release the new slim filter specifically for the Q3 43, it'll probably cost North of $200.

[aficionados]

18 minutes ago, 69xchange said:

For an additional cost of $230 USD... At least the SR reissue came with two lens hoods in the box with an attempt to be able to use with filter (before the updated lens hood).

Once they release the new slim filter specifically for the Q3 43, it'll probably cost North of $200.

Get a Chinese knockoff from Amazon for less than $40, it’s same thing.

[Simone_DF]

9 hours ago, aficionados said:

Then they shouldn’t even have front thread on the lens, claiming this camera to be best used filter-less. Problem solved 

No camera is best used filter-less. Think e.g. polarising filters, ND, BPM etc

[SJH]

Hi everyone the B+W 007 protection filter works perfectly on the Q3 43 https://schneiderkreuznach.com/en/photo-optics/b-w-filters/filtertypes/protection/uv-clear

[SJH]

1 minute ago, SJH said:

Hi everyone the B+W 007 protection filter works perfectly on the Q3 43 https://schneiderkreuznach.com/en/photo-optics/b-w-filters/filtertypes/protection/uv-clear

This works but may not allow Macro mode - I’ll check today. 

[algrove]

I saw a video where the guy explains that in macro mode all Q cameras the lens extends forward just a bit. But he explains on the Q3 43 this extension is blocked if a normal thickness filter is attached and you cannot shoot in macro mode if the lens hood is attached. What bummer.

[Leicalookalike]

vor 3 Stunden schrieb SJH:

Hi everyone the B+W 007 protection filter works perfectly on the Q3 43 https://schneiderkreuznach.com/en/photo-optics/b-w-filters/filtertypes/protection/uv-clear

Unfortunately is does not. No macro mode.

[SJH]

5 hours ago, SJH said:

This works but may not allow Macro mode - I’ll check today. 

As above unfortunately as @Leicalookalike mentions this doesn’t work, so you can use the B+W 007 but it prevents Macro mode.

[egrossman]

The reason that macro mode is impossible with even a thin filter is the shortened length of the included hood. Macro mode pushes the front of the lens forward, further restricting the availble space inside of the hood for the filter. The optional Leica ventilated hood does allow macro mode because the inside of the hood is wide enough to let the entire filter assembly to pass through it. Macro mode works just fine. 

This image shows the lens in macro mode with the filter pushed forward through the hood without issue.

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[Stuart Richardson]

You're fighting physics here. In order to get into the macro range a longer lens has to focus out further. To get to 1 to 1 a 28mm lens needs 56mm, while the 43mm needs 86mm. As can be seen in the picture, the lens is extending out enough that the hood no longer really does anything to shade the lens in the macro configuration. It seems like the solution is either that you use a screw in lens hood on top of the filter, or you just take the hood off for macro mode. Those may be inconvenient, but it seems like that is the only way Leica could keep the hood without attaching it to the focusing assembly. I think it is a much safer, stronger design to have the hood coupled to the rigid body of the lens. All the handling movement and any bumps and jars will hit the rigid body of the lens as opposed to the more delicate focusing mechanism.

[haelio]

I'm not sure if we're fighting physics here, or just a badly designed hood.

It is perfectly possible to ship a hood that supports macro mode and is not attached to the moving focus module as is demonstrated by the vented hood. Leica made the decision to ship a hood not fit for this purpose and instead require an additional $200+ spend by their user.

I think we're fighting Leica's bottom line more than physics here

[Leicalookalike]

vor 32 Minuten schrieb haelio:

I'm not sure if we're fighting physics here, or just a badly designed hood.

It is perfectly possible to ship a hood that supports macro mode and is not attached to the moving focus module as is demonstrated by the vented hood. Leica made the decision to ship a hood not fit for this purpose and instead require an additional $200+ spend by their user.

I think we're fighting Leica's bottom line more than physics here

True that!

[Dr. G]

It seems that they chose aesthetics over function.  A square hood could be used without vignetting if the opening was slightly larger, but that would mean the hood would flare outward.  A hood similar to some of the M lenses should be possible. With the q3, I was fairly confident I could use the camera in the rain even without a front filter because of the length of the hood.  On the q3 43 I found myself using my hand to block the rain because the front element of the lens isn’t as far back and raindrops were hitting it.  

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[Stuart Richardson]

2 hours ago, haelio said:

I'm not sure if we're fighting physics here, or just a badly designed hood.

It is perfectly possible to ship a hood that supports macro mode and is not attached to the moving focus module as is demonstrated by the vented hood. Leica made the decision to ship a hood not fit for this purpose and instead require an additional $200+ spend by their user.

I think we're fighting Leica's bottom line more than physics here

Fair enough. It seems though that the trade offs that are involved would have resulted in a larger more obtrusive hood in all situations, rather than one that has to be removed in a less common situation (using filters and the hood while doing macros). I agree it would be much nicer if this were not the case. Personally it would not bother me in the slightest, but I do not use UV filters. If I did, I can see how it would be annoying. There are, however, options, both from Leica (the 200 dollar hood) or not (presumably any number of aftermarket hoods of many different price levels). I don't think this is Leica being "cheap" though, I think it is Leica making design and aesthetic decisions that have an impact on function. What is better: a fully functional hood that is bulkier, or a more streamlined hood that works fine except in one less common use case? I guess they decided the latter.