Q3 with 43mm APO f2

[Kwokaun]

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A Q3 APO 43mm would be an interesting variant for the Q3 generation. Just like the Q2M was for the Q2 generation and the Q-P for the first Q. And the focal length is right between the APO 35mm and APO 50mm M and SL lenses so it’s unique in that sense too. An interesting idea for a Q3 variation which would have its fans if it does come out.

[JNK100]

7 hours ago, robb said:

I’m excited about this release.  We have all beat this horse to death in a number of previous threads.  Some will always want it.  Some won’t.  Main difference on this “news” is the APO designation…

that should hook many more of the SL system users over to the fold because of the stellar apo’s in our systems in that model line.  Better than the apo m designs and at half the price… now we’ll have to see what price the Q3-40 comes in at but I would guess similar to the Q3-28.  One of the detractions for Q3 28 has been said that that lens can’t keep up with the 60mp.  So I would guess Leica is responding to those naysayers and future proofing for the long haul.  I’d expect future Q models to add the apo to the wider focal length… you know progress……

Robb

Robb

What makes you believe the 28mm lens cannot keep up with 60mp?

Regards

Jeff

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vor 22 Stunden schrieb darylgo:

On the fence about this one when a Sony a7cr and the Sony 40/2.5 are same size, less money and interchangeable lenses, great autofocus.  Arguably, Leica's interface is superior but once learned the Sony is not rocket science. 

Good on Leica for finally getting it, their Minilux with a 40mm lens was the best point and shot made. 

I must say, that I do not believe, that a person thinking abouut a Sony and empahsising on autofocus is the exact discription of Leica´s target audience. 

[T25UFO]

The whole thing is just farcical.  Leica Rumours has excelled itself by publishing a mock up photo that says "50mm" on the lens, then starting a fictitious rumour about a "43mm" lens.  All done for clicks and the sad thing is it works.

[Simone_DF]

7 hours ago, jaapv said:

Well, Leica will do what they will do, whatever we think or say. The only signs of a release are Leica Rumours reporting somebody’s phantasy. No registration reported, no carefully timed “leaks”  

But there’s a new SKU registered about a month ago:

https://leicarumors.com/2024/08/07/new-leica-type-4506-camera-registered-in-china.aspx/

[LocalHero1953]

I never thought I would have to defend Leicarumors, but a simple reading of the OP's linked page tells you that the 'rumor' is separate from the speculative March mock up 50mm image and linked article by Burmeister, and refers back to it just for info.

I have no idea if the rumour is correct or not - Leicarumors has been wrong and right before - it makes no difference to my reputation, self-regard or wallet. Belief can be a matter of choice: why decide if a rumour is true or not before it makes a difference either way? OTOH, that's no reason to let our speculative juices go to waste in this thread.

[jaapv]

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6 minutes ago, Simone_DF said:

But there’s a new SKU registered about a month ago:

https://leicarumors.com/2024/08/07/new-leica-type-4506-camera-registered-in-china.aspx/

We'll see. As mentioned in various posts, there are quite a few cameras in the expectation pipeline. 

[robb]

3 hours ago, JNK100 said:

Robb

What makes you believe the 28mm lens cannot keep up with 60mp?

Regards

Jeff

I have a Q2 and it’s not like using my apo lenses on my sl2.  I’m sure we can agree on that.  Wide open they are all best ever of anything out there.  No fringing, clarity and color on next level. Leica claims future proofed to sensors over 100mp.  

my buddy sent me some links from Reid or Lloyd where the sentiment was less than favorable on pushing 60mp with the Q lens

I’ve read plenty of wish lists here for Leica to revise the 28 on the Q for higher quality.

I don’t subscribe to those sites so really couldn’t say exactly the review summary but don’t remember it favorable.

But as a benchmark, the apo lenses Leica makes are truly fantastic.  So a Q with one should have everyone excited…

Robb 

[Dr. G]

1 hour ago, robb said:

I have a Q2 and it’s not like using my apo lenses on my sl2.  I’m sure we can agree on that.  Wide open they are all best ever of anything out there.  No fringing, clarity and color on next level. Leica claims future proofed to sensors over 100mp.  

my buddy sent me some links from Reid or Lloyd where the sentiment was less than favorable on pushing 60mp with the Q lens

I’ve read plenty of wish lists here for Leica to revise the 28 on the Q for higher quality.

I don’t subscribe to those sites so really couldn’t say exactly the review summary but don’t remember it favorable.

But as a benchmark, the apo lenses Leica makes are truly fantastic.  So a Q with one should have everyone excited…

Robb 

The APO SL lenses are definitely in a different league.  That being said the Summilux 28 on the Q3 does have a great rendering.  But...

If this camera actually exists it could replace my SL3 with the 35 and 50 APO (for me - I don't want to have a discussion about how zooming in and out with your feet is not the same as the actual focal length) for what I usually carry with me when I'm out and about.

[Le Chef]

Leica went down the route of optimizing the Q lens using software. It meant the lens could be lighter, smaller and cheaper to make and therefore more affordable for the buyer.

You can make the Q3 lens APO, but you should look at the size and weight and cost of doing so, by the time you have built in the autofocus mechanism, OIS, and leaf shutter.

[Le Chef]

5 minutes ago, Dr. G said:

If this camera actually exists it could replace my SL3 with the 35 and 50 APO (for me

If that were the case, why would Leica produce this Q variant? They would lose the sale of a SL3 camera body, and the future potential to sell more lenses + the 35mm and 50 mm APO lenses you already own. That’s Leica giving money away they don’t need to give away.

[Simone_DF]

1 hour ago, robb said:

But as a benchmark, the apo lenses Leica makes are truly fantastic.  So a Q with one should have everyone excited…

 

Happy to be proven wrong, but it will be very hard to balance size, performance and price point. Usually companies can pick only 2 and sacrifice the third. 
For the SL Apos, one of these lenses weights like a Q3. 
I don’t expect an hypothetical Q3 with 45mm to have the same performance of my 50mm Apo, I think it’s a bit unrealistic if we want the price tag to be the same as the current Q, though there’s to say that the SL Apo’s were designed 10 years ago, and technology has improved significantly in the meantime 

[Simone_DF]

4 minutes ago, Le Chef said:

If that were the case, why would Leica produce this Q variant? They would lose the sale of a SL3 camera body,

Aren’t they losing the sales of the SL3 + 28mm APO too?

[Le Chef]

9 minutes ago, Simone_DF said:

Aren’t they losing the sales of the SL3 + 28mm APO too?

Yes. So why make it worse?

[Dr. G]

18 minutes ago, Le Chef said:

If that were the case, why would Leica produce this Q variant? They would lose the sale of a SL3 camera body, and the future potential to sell more lenses + the 35mm and 50 mm APO lenses you already own. That’s Leica giving money away they don’t need to give away.

Because a pro who already has one of the SL bodies may not want to pick up another camera/lens combination when they have an interchangeable lens system.  For studio work, on location shoots requiring different focal lengths, product photography, etc I don't know that a pro would replace his 50 and 35 with this camera.  Plus not all APO lenses are the same.

 

I was careful to write "for me" in my comment.  I'm not a pro, only an enthusiast.  For travel I currently take my SL3 with the APO SL 21/35/50/75.  It would make sense in my case.

 

Also remember that the Q has also historically been a "sweetheart camera."  There are lots of people that buy a Q that aren't really serious about photography.  I don't know how active you are on social media, but there are lots of people that love to let the world know they own a Q body camera.  That's just the reality.  Leica can market it however they'd like and there will be people who aren't SL users who will buy it.

Edited August 26, 2024 by Dr. G

[stephenmick]

What might make this interesting (to me, and maybe a few others) would be if Leica combined this mythical Q3/45 with something like a 0.6 magnification wide-angle adapter, and potentially a 1.8-2.0x tele-adapter. Sure, the Q3 has 60MP and plenty of crop-ability, but there are times when it would be nice to have all megapixels available at a longer focal length. 

[Dr. G]

23 minutes ago, stephenmick said:

What might make this interesting (to me, and maybe a few others) would be if Leica combined this mythical Q3/45 with something like a 0.6 magnification wide-angle adapter, and potentially a 1.8-2.0x tele-adapter. Sure, the Q3 has 60MP and plenty of crop-ability, but there are times when it would be nice to have all megapixels available at a longer focal length. 

In that regard they could also make an interchangeable lens L Mount Q bodied camera.  Figure out a way to emulate the manual focus assists of the Nikon Zf to use with M mount lenses as well and you would have a very appealing camera for those who don't really get along with a rangefinder and still want the option of autofocus.   

 

[Le Chef]

28 minutes ago, Dr. G said:

In that regard they could also make an interchangeable lens L Mount Q bodied camera. 

As has been said many times over on this forum, they could, but it would likely cost significantly more than starting from scratch because of the “Russian Doll” construction of the lens, shutter and stability system. You still have the “issue” of L-mount lenses that were designed for the SL and not for a smaller, lighter camera. 

[rxj]

Interesting that this camera was added last year to the device database and the M11-D was only added a year later.

Betting the name will be - Leica Q3 43.

https://device.report/leica-camera-ag

Edited August 26, 2024 by rxj

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Hallo,

Look here: Leica Q

[Le Chef]

Seems off. Registering the Q (116) in 2021 when it was launched in 2015. No mention of the Q-P, Q2, Q2M, CL, or TL2. Doesn’t seem very accurate to me.