Q3 with 43mm APO f2

[Olaf_ZG]

Advertisement (gone after registration)

Oh no!!! According the diehards like @Le Chef, @bobtodrick this would and can’t be happening. The world will go down.

Somehow, @Simone_DFand I might be interested…

[Olaf_ZG]

13 hours ago, costa43 said:

This is a particularly interesting rumour. 

https://leicarumors.com/2024/08/24/rumors-leica-to-announce-a-new-q3-camera-with-a-fixed-43mm-f-2-apo-lens.aspx/

Focal length will be 45mm, but, same as with the original, it will be 2mm shorter, so 43mm.

45/2 will be like a contax g1 with THE planar. If it is true, I will for sure buy it. Even new, despite me swearing I won’t buy Leica new.

[goodbokeh]

50 minutes ago, jaapv said:

You mean like they killed off the homage to the Barnacks in the form of the CL? And you mean the film CL that they had to sell off to Minolta because they could not make it profitable?

 

 

Well now jaapv we both know the early-mid 70's was a very tough time for Leica. The CL was a joint venture with Minolta from the very start. After the M5 disaster even the M line was shipped off to Canada on life support as the M4-2. This new Q with the 43mm APO lens will surely be impressive. Hopefully the Q4's 28mm lens will also get a (overdue) upgrade to APO performance.

[Stuart Richardson]

1 hour ago, jaapv said:

Small market, development costs must be amortized and there must be a profit there -The red dot, after all. 

I don't think the market is particularly small, based on professed interest here and from the success of the GRIIIx. I am sure Leica is already making plenty of profit at over 6000 dollars per Q3. The development would be mostly limited to the lens, as the body could be exactly the same. I am not saying it will necessarily be the exact same as the existing Q3, but I can find no reason to suspect that it would be priced more than a SL3 or M11P...if it had to be priced like that Leica simply would not do it. And that may well be the case, but if it does come to market I think it will be priced very much in line with the other Q3.

Edited August 25, 2024 by Stuart Richardson

[Olaf_ZG]

As mentioned somewhere else here, it will be type 4506. The 6th iteration, with a 45mm lens. I just told my dealer to add me on the waiting list.

[T25UFO]

45 posts in less than a day for a product that doesn't exist and is a figment of someone's imagination; promoted by a website for clicks that has a history of regularly getting things wrong.  What a joke!

[Le Chef]

Advertisement (gone after registration)

If 4504 was the Q3, then what is 4505? Q3M? Which presumably would come before any Q3 & 3 Quarters. According to Burpmeister that will lose its aperture ring but will gain another body thumb or finger control for that function.

Are Leica keeping up with demand on the Q3? If so then presumably they have capacity to trickle in a Q3M for another year or so until they contemplate a Q4…

Exciting times for dreamers!

[Olaf_ZG]

2 minutes ago, T25UFO said:

45 posts in less than a day for a product that doesn't exist and is a figment of someone's imagination; promoted by a website for clicks that has a history of regularly getting things wrong.  What a joke!

 Neither the q3m, m11d, and whatever exists and have more posts. UFO’s dont exist either. …

[Le Chef]

15 minutes ago, Stuart Richardson said:

I don't think the market is particularly small, based on professed interest here

This is a tiny universe in a not very big universe of Leica owners. Add a zero or two to compare to Canon or Sony.

[Olaf_ZG]

1 minute ago, Le Chef said:

If 4504 was the Q3, then what is 4505? Q3M? Which presumably would come before any Q3 & 3 Quarters. According to Burpmeister that will lose its aperture ring but will gain another body thumb or finger control for that function.

Are Leica keeping up with demand on the Q3? If so then presumably they have capacity to trickle in a Q3M for another year or so until they contemplate a Q4…

Exciting times for dreamers!

For sure there will be a q3m, as it should be. M11m is in good demand, so will be the q3m.

developing a monochrom version for sure is easier then a new f/l.

what would be a man without dreams?

[Le Chef]

2 minutes ago, Olaf_ZG said:

Neither the q3m, m11d, and whatever exists and have more posts. UFO’s dont exist either. …

Correlation does not equal causation. Conspiracy theories make people rich through clicks. In fact I might go and invent a camera myself and see how far fetched it can be and how I can create faux authenticity through my imagined connections at Leica. Now where did my CAD technology expert go?

[Olaf_ZG]

2 minutes ago, Le Chef said:

Correlation does not equal causation. Conspiracy theories make people rich through clicks. In fact I might go and invent a camera myself and see how far fetched it can be and how I can create faux authenticity through my imagined connections at Leica. Now where did my CAD technology expert go?

What stops you? Invent. If people get rich from clicks for a leica q with a 45mm lens, there for sure must be a need… so, pls design and submit to Leica.

[Le Chef]

1 minute ago, Olaf_ZG said:

What stops you? Invent. If people get rich from clicks for a leica q with a 45mm lens, there for sure must be a need… so, pls design and submit to Leica.

 No - just to Leica Rumors so I can make real money from clicks for an imaginary product. You don’t need the real thing at all, because that costs money to develop. You just make it up and rake in pure profit. Easy!

[Olaf_ZG]

1 minute ago, Le Chef said:

 No - just to Leica Rumors so I can make real money from clicks for an imaginary product. You don’t need the real thing at all, because that costs money to develop. You just make it up and rake in pure profit. Easy!

You seem to be a master in economics, deciding that Leica wont make money on a Q45, yet LR will make money based on rumors only. How many clicks will LR have got from LUF, and how much (s)he would have made profit?

The q45 will come, somehow, you wont be happy, but many will.

[Stuart Richardson]

It's a rumor...everyone realizes that I think. The picture was not related to the rumor itself, it was just a mockup that another guy made of a potential longer lens Q. Leica Rumors just used the photo to have an image along with the text. They were not alleging that that picture was a Q3 43mm.

[Olaf_ZG]

1 minute ago, Stuart Richardson said:

It's a rumor...everyone realizes that I think. The picture was not related to the rumor itself, it was just a mockup that another guy made of a potential longer lens Q. Leica Rumors just used the photo to have an image along with the text. They were not alleging that that picture was a Q3 43mm.

But the rumor is persistent and makes sense. A 40/50 version would make sense to a lot of people, and it will make a great addition.

[Simone_DF]

Yup. Instant buy for me. And I’d probably pair it with a Q3 28mm, but sell my S5II and lenses. 

[ashree]

8 hours ago, jaapv said:

Nothing wrong with 40 mm but why not use a Summicron 40/2 C on an M  or SL instead of spending something like 10.000 $ on such a Q? 

Adding to 01af...that the 40mm Summicron-C is inching closer to $1000 and the copies that are out there are in poor condition—at least I wouldn't buy it for the price given the condition they are in. Add in the fact that the people who don't already invested any Leica body would have to shell out a lot more for an SL3 or M body compared to the cost of a fixed lens Q3 be it the 28mm or rumored 43mm variant. Oh and...I know that there is a 40mm Voigtlander alternative or the Rokkor 40mm/2...but I'm not that target audience who would buy those, not that I have a problem with third-party m mount lens manufacturers. I have a couple of Zeiss ZM lens that I'm happy with but beyond that, once I got Leica lenses I cannot go back, lol.

[jaapv]

1 hour ago, Stuart Richardson said:

I don't think the market is particularly small, based on professed interest here and from the success of the GRIIIx. I am sure Leica is already making plenty of profit at over 6000 dollars per Q3. The development would be mostly limited to the lens, as the body could be exactly the same. I am not saying it will necessarily be the exact same as the existing Q3, but I can find no reason to suspect that it would be priced more than a SL3 or M11P...if it had to be priced like that Leica simply would not do it. And that may well be the case, but if it does come to market I think it will be priced very much in line with the other Q3.

I hardly think that  less than a dozen positives in a rumours thread in a specialized forum of Leica geeks constitutes a solid market survey. The Q lens, shutter and sensor are one integrated unit Change the lens --> redesign the whole unit --> rewrite the firmware. But then - I completely misjudged the Monochrom in 2012. 

[Advertisement]

Hallo,

Look here: Leica Q

[costa43]

I don’t see a negative if this rumour comes to fruition. We are talking about a 60mp compact(ish) camera with a Leica APO lens at a natural focal length, AF, weather sealing and a great evf. The 28mm option will no doubt remain for those who want wider. It’s a win across the board.  

Edited August 25, 2024 by costa43