Le Chef Posted October 2, 2024 Share #141 Posted October 2, 2024 Advertisement (gone after registration) Leica is going to rename the Default settings to “Spluttering Indignation” for those who think they have created a profile but have not, and those who believe, without reading the manual, that they can change the settings and they will save automatically without doing anything. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 2, 2024 Posted October 2, 2024 Hi Le Chef, Take a look here Q3 new firmware 2.0.5. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
wlaidlaw Posted October 2, 2024 Share #142 Posted October 2, 2024 1 hour ago, Le Chef said: Leica is going to rename the Default settings to “Spluttering Indignation” for those who think they have created a profile but have not, and those who believe, without reading the manual, that they can change the settings and they will save automatically without doing anything. I learnt that lesson with my Porsche Panamera Hybrid. Unless you save any change, cabin temperature on driver's side etc to a numbered profile (1-3) and/or a key profile (1&2) on the profile pad on the door panel, then when you switch off any changes are lost and when you next power up it reverts to previous settings. Just the same on the Q3 and my M10-R. Wilson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLamb Posted October 2, 2024 Share #143 Posted October 2, 2024 (edited) 20 hours ago, SrMi said: There is no stupid laziness, but it is a typical software development process. The firmware was likely finalized before the launch and before the bug was reported. The fix for the recently discovered bug (never reported on Q) was worked in parallel while the launch was ongoing. The fact that the fix was launched a day or two after the launch speaks in Leica's favor. The bug was reported months ago and fixed in the August 2.0.5 firmware release for the Q3. Allowing for testing of the fix that firmware version would have been ready at least a month or two prior to the August release, and the fix code would be pretty much the same as the SL3 fix that was released in July. v2.0.5 should have been finalised well before the Q3 43s were ready to have the firmware loaded to avoid any being shipped with a potentially drastic fault. I would guess that 90%+ of the firmware code base for the Q3 43 is the same as that for the Q3. All Q3 43 cameras should have had the latest 2.0.5 firmware loaded. To issue a notice of a v2.0.5 firmware update for the Q3 43 suggests that some cameras may have been shipped that do not have that important release loaded, stupidity or laziness since we have confirmation that some Q3 43s have v2.0.5. This does not speak in Leica's favour in IMHO. Edited October 2, 2024 by SLamb 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Chef Posted October 2, 2024 Share #144 Posted October 2, 2024 (edited) “I just read that there is a new firmware update for the one week old Q3 43” A source makes it credible. A lack of source makes it questionable. As far as I know the launch stock of Q343’s all had 2.05 loaded from the start. Edited October 2, 2024 by Le Chef Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted October 2, 2024 Share #145 Posted October 2, 2024 1 hour ago, SLamb said: The bug was reported months ago and fixed in the August 2.0.5 firmware release for the Q3. Allowing for testing of the fix that firmware version would have been ready at least a month or two prior to the August release, and the fix code would be pretty much the same as the SL3 fix that was released in July. v2.0.5 should have been finalised well before the Q3 43s were ready to have the firmware loaded to avoid any being shipped with a potentially drastic fault. I would guess that 90%+ of the firmware code base for the Q3 43 is the same as that for the Q3. All Q3 43 cameras should have had the latest 2.0.5 firmware loaded. To issue a notice of a v2.0.5 firmware update for the Q3 43 suggests that some cameras may have been shipped that do not have that important release loaded, stupidity or laziness since we have confirmation that some Q3 43s have v2.0.5. This does not speak in Leica's favour in IMHO. I still do not understand why you are getting your knickers in a twist because the first dozen Q3s did not have v2.0.5 installed (mine did not). This is a firmware update for a bug nobody observed in Q3, as well as other bug fixes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLamb Posted October 2, 2024 Share #146 Posted October 2, 2024 1 hour ago, SrMi said: I still do not understand why you are getting your knickers in a twist because the first dozen Q3s did not have v2.0.5 installed (mine did not). This is a firmware update for a bug nobody observed in Q3, as well as other bug fixes. My knickers, as you so eloquently put it, are neither twisted nor my favoured form of undergarment. I couldn't care less as I'm not interested in the Q3 43. I merely stated that I thought it was unbelievable and unacceptable that a new Q3 model was released with a firmware version installed that was known to have a serious bug in it. Whether people observed it or not in the Q3 is immaterial, it existed and it was rectified and the affected firmware should not have been used for any future production. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Chef Posted October 3, 2024 Share #147 Posted October 3, 2024 Advertisement (gone after registration) You still have not named your source for this information. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLamb Posted October 3, 2024 Share #148 Posted October 3, 2024 3 hours ago, Le Chef said: You still have not named your source for this information. https://leica-camera.com/en-US/photography/cameras/q/q3-43-black/downloads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Chef Posted October 3, 2024 Share #149 Posted October 3, 2024 Proves nothing. Where does Leica say you may need to update your firmware to 2.05? It doesn’t and hasn’t. Do you have a third party reference that shows Leica did not pre install 2.05 in the Q343, or is this just hearsay? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenmick Posted October 3, 2024 Share #150 Posted October 3, 2024 18 hours ago, Le Chef said: “I just read that there is a new firmware update for the one week old Q3 43” A source makes it credible. A lack of source makes it questionable. As far as I know the launch stock of Q343’s all had 2.05 loaded from the start. Mine did not. Was version 2.04. Bought from a Leica dealer on launch day. But updating the firmware was easy enough, so no worries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLamb Posted October 3, 2024 Share #151 Posted October 3, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Le Chef said: Proves nothing. Where does Leica say you may need to update your firmware to 2.05? It doesn’t and hasn’t. Do you have a third party reference that shows Leica did not pre install 2.05 in the Q343, or is this just hearsay? See the post above this one. Leica has issued the v.2.0.5 firmware update on its download page because not all Q3 43s were shipped with that firmware. The fact that Leica has put it there and not issued a notice that owners of the Q3 43 should check their camera firmware and update it if it is below v2.0.5 is as unbelievable as shipping cameras with a firmware that has a known, and potentially serious, bug in it. Of course, it is up to owners to decide whether to update the firmware or live with the possibility of losing pictures. Edited October 3, 2024 by SLamb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacnwleica Posted October 3, 2024 Share #152 Posted October 3, 2024 On 10/1/2024 at 11:08 PM, Carrot said: Picked up my Q43 yesterday and it was already loaded with version 2.0.5 Same here, I purchased my Q3 43 on Sat 28th, and it has the latest firmware on it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likaleica Posted October 22, 2024 Share #153 Posted October 22, 2024 Some people need to take a chill pill. There are much larger issues in this world to get upset about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLamb Posted October 22, 2024 Share #154 Posted October 22, 2024 10 hours ago, Likaleica said: Some people need to take a chill pill. There are much larger issues in this world to get upset about. Could you point to the post(s) in this thread where anyone has stated that they are upset? I agree though, these are very first world problems and relatively insignificant in the scale of issues being faced my many around the world. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMLEICA Posted October 25, 2024 Share #155 Posted October 25, 2024 Hi there, Still no news from Leica, regarding the Firmware BUG (appeared in 2.0.1 and still present after 2.0.5). Using Profiles is really a nightmare...! Check the following link to see a "manual" way to temporarily fix it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted October 25, 2024 Share #156 Posted October 25, 2024 On 10/22/2024 at 3:21 PM, SLamb said: Could you point to the post(s) in this thread where anyone has stated that they are upset? See post #141. The poster certainly sounds very angry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLamb Posted October 26, 2024 Share #157 Posted October 26, 2024 On 10/25/2024 at 5:31 PM, SrMi said: See post #141. The poster certainly sounds very angry. You seem unable to differentiate between incredulity and anger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesehead Posted November 1, 2024 Share #158 Posted November 1, 2024 On 10/25/2024 at 9:49 AM, EMLEICA said: Hi there, Still no news from Leica, regarding the Firmware BUG (appeared in 2.0.1 and still present after 2.0.5). Using Profiles is really a nightmare...! Check the following link to see a "manual" way to temporarily fix it. Thanks for highlighting this and posting the video. I ran into this but didn't realize it was a bug. I thought that I was incorrectly swiping on a setting to enter video and then struggling to get out. Now that I see it and the work around I will avoid at least a little aggrevation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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