Ko.Fe. Posted May 9, 2024 Share #21 Posted May 9, 2024 Advertisement (gone after registration) Have to cancel at very first question. The concept of experience been related to profession is completely irrelevant. I have seen many selling themselves as professional, but result a.k.a. photos were not too good. Speaking about professionalism, this questionnaire needs to be redone completely to be able to acquire accurate data. Single choices are just not going to do so. And sorry to say, this is so Leica AG... Aiming for masters, while basics are missing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ko.Fe. Posted May 9, 2024 Share #22 Posted May 9, 2024 1 hour ago, LocalHero1953 said: What puzzled me were the two buttons at the bottom of the page 'Weiter' and 'Back'; a half nod to the 'international' side of the forum? Usually it is due to absence of involvement with assignment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart D Posted May 9, 2024 Share #23 Posted May 9, 2024 suvey taken Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted May 9, 2024 Share #24 Posted May 9, 2024 7 hours ago, Ko.Fe. said: Have to cancel at very first question. The concept of experience been related to profession is completely irrelevant. I have seen many selling themselves as professional, but result a.k.a. photos were not too good. Speaking about professionalism, this questionnaire needs to be redone completely to be able to acquire accurate data. Single choices are just not going to do so. And sorry to say, this is so Leica AG... Aiming for masters, while basics are missing. I do not think that is an official Leica survey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted May 9, 2024 Share #25 Posted May 9, 2024 1 minute ago, SrMi said: I do not think that is an official Leica survey. You mean Leica doesn't have its own university, like Trump and McDonald's Hamburger University? 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted May 9, 2024 Share #26 Posted May 9, 2024 Too dogmatic questions do not cater for all contingencies and assume too much . Unlikely to reveal accurate / meaningful conclusions. Survey s/b redesigned. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3D-Kraft.com Posted May 9, 2024 Share #27 Posted May 9, 2024 Advertisement (gone after registration) Survey taken. Regarding the critizism here, I think, this hint from Katherina is important: "Please imagine a specific scenario that can be captured with a specific camera and lens. " So it is not about your whole spectrum, where often, the answer would be "it depends". It is about a particular scenario (e.g. where you feel most comfortable). 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Chef Posted May 9, 2024 Share #28 Posted May 9, 2024 14 minutes ago, 3D-Kraft.com said: Survey taken. Regarding the critizism here, I think, this hint from Katherina is important: "Please imagine a specific scenario that can be captured with a specific camera and lens. " So it is not about your whole spectrum, where often, the answer would be "it depends". It is about a particular scenario (e.g. where you feel most comfortable). And that scenario needs to be known to provide context for the answers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted May 9, 2024 Share #29 Posted May 9, 2024 4 hours ago, SrMi said: I do not think that is an official Leica survey. To me once person is mentioning working for Leica AG, it is. BTW, did Admin actually verified the working for Leica statement? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted May 9, 2024 Share #30 Posted May 9, 2024 Done, and I wish Katharina all the best. There is a good depth of knowledge and experience here -- and LUF members are not shy to express their opinions -- so I am sure they would be happy to contribute with further discussion if Katrharina would like to follow up on this. I agree it was hard to give a full answer. My main camera is a Leica M but I also use a Panasonic AF compact and have used other Leica compacts in the past. My favourite lens is a Leica M lens, not an AF lens. I shoot indoors, outdoors, landscapes, and people pictures. My preferred AF mode would be single spot focus which I would use in the same way as manual focusing with the M -- half press to lock on what I want in focus then recompose if required. AF accuracy is paramount. As with other aspects of photography and technology in general, simplicity and ease of use are important rather than a dazzling number of features and options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted May 9, 2024 Share #31 Posted May 9, 2024 I asked Gemini to suggest a collective noun for a group of Leica owners. My favourite from among several is "a judgement of Leica owners". That seems particularly appropriate, reading the posts in this thread. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 9, 2024 Share #32 Posted May 9, 2024 I cannot imagine that this survey will yield any sensible results. Having said that, I have seen even worse in the medical field. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbphotox Posted May 9, 2024 Share #33 Posted May 9, 2024 1 hour ago, Le Chef said: And that scenario needs to be known to provide context for the answers. isn't that at the very beginning of the survey, where you specify your favorite setting (Street, Portrait, landscape, macro, etc.)? But I agree that the quality of this survey is sub-par, especially at a Master's level. In fact, as a Highschool teacher who regularly coaches students with research "papers", I would not allow a survey of that quality to be released. (We call it "Matura thesis" and the students have 12 months to write said paper. (20-30 pages with introduction, background, methodology, results, discussion, conclusion, summary with a scientific hypothesis that is to be tested/researched in order to learn how someone conducts "scientific research") 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff C. Bassett Posted May 10, 2024 Share #34 Posted May 10, 2024 I think the majority of criticisms for this survey could be addressed with ranked voting. Especially the Day/Night/Indoor question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansvons Posted May 10, 2024 Share #35 Posted May 10, 2024 Great to read all these constructive criticism. Guess everyone here holds a summa cum laude PhD with a specific expertise in the field of this survey. I filled in the survey and didn’t find anything to criticise. Why should I? I‘ve no idea what the thesis is about. All this bad mood isn’t helping anyone. It only helps to widen the generational divide and unsettles the surveyor. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Robinson Posted May 10, 2024 Share #36 Posted May 10, 2024 Survey design is not easy (I have done many of them using SurveyMonkey and other systems). Sometimes it is worth prototyping with a small group and then refining and it is important to have a design for how the responses will be used. I would start by looking at ranking (on scale of 1 - 5 etc) and allowing multiple responses (e.g. work outdoors X percent of time and indoors Y percent; landscape X percent, portrait Y percent etc.) A question I did not see was "why use AF?" or "under what conditions is AF useful"? as most Leica cameras listed in the "what do you use?" column (an example where multiple answers would have been appropriate) can work in either MF or AF mode depending on the conditions. "Use case" open text would also help depending on the purpose of the survey (e.g. describe when AF-S with tracking is useful; under what conditions is MF better?). Perhaps the author of the survey can publish some results back to the forum once it closes, with commentary on what was learned? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas_Kreuz Posted May 10, 2024 Share #37 Posted May 10, 2024 Am 8.5.2024 um 16:01 schrieb LUF Admin: Here is a survey about how you use the autofocus of your camera by Katharina, who works for Leica Camera and is writing my Master's thesis. Wow, Katharina is writing also LUF Admins Master Thesis? 🙂 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBNvRBN photo Posted May 11, 2024 Share #38 Posted May 11, 2024 I didn't have the possibility to add a request/wish to Leica in the survey, so I thought I could do it here as a post. I wish that the Q3 would have the option for true 'back-button-focus'. I know one of the programmable knobs can be set to AF-L (autofocus lock), but it cannot be set to AF-ON. That is that pushing the button would active the autofocus and half-pressing the shutter would not. I do this all the time with my Nikons and miss it dearly on the Q3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 11, 2024 Share #39 Posted May 11, 2024 On 5/10/2024 at 9:43 AM, hansvons said: Great to read all these constructive criticism. Guess everyone here holds a summa cum laude PhD with a specific expertise in the field of this survey. I filled in the survey and didn’t find anything to criticise. Why should I? I‘ve no idea what the thesis is about. All this bad mood isn’t helping anyone. It only helps to widen the generational divide and unsettles the surveyor. The main problem is that most of our members are accomplished photographers using multiple methods and the survey doesn’t allow for this by single-answer questions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted May 11, 2024 Share #40 Posted May 11, 2024 27 minutes ago, RBNvRBN photo said: I didn't have the possibility to add a request/wish to Leica in the survey, so I thought I could do it here as a post. I wish that the Q3 would have the option for true 'back-button-focus'. I know one of the programmable knobs can be set to AF-L (autofocus lock), but it cannot be set to AF-ON. That is that pushing the button would active the autofocus and half-pressing the shutter would not. I do this all the time with my Nikons and miss it dearly on the Q3. You can send the request to Leica (I agree with it). This questionnaire is for a master thesis in which a Leica employee is involved. It is not run by Leica’s marketing or engineering department. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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