New challenger : X100 VI vs Q3 in 35mm crop mode

[GREG PLAT]

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54 minutes ago, JohnSantaF4 said:

What would you think of the SL2-S as an all-rounder? I have the Q2M but the fixed lens is somewhat limiting, so leaning against the Q3.

My desire is no more interchangeable lens. 
One camera one lens wherever I ll go. 
 

[GREG PLAT]

18 minutes ago, Qwertynm said:

Have you watched the video I posted above? Samuel compares the two lenses. The sensors I‘d expect the Q3 to perform better than the XT-5. In my experience full frame always has a little edge over APS-C. I‘d rate it Q3 > Q2 > XT-5 w/ XF 18 1.4 > … > X100 with WA 28

Would you like please to copy the link of Samuel here? 
I am thinking very seriously about Q3. 
The only negative is that I have already Xt5 and I just buy a lens 1000$ not a Q3 with 6000$! 

 

[Qwertynm]

vor 2 Minuten schrieb GREG PLAT:

Would you like please to copy the link of Samuel here? 

 

[JTLeica]

3 hours ago, Le Chef said:

Why? You could rent a Q2 and a X100V which would get you most of the way there, and then decide.

Probably a wise choice yes

Edited February 27, 2024 by JTLeica

[JTLeica]

If you want one lens and one camera only just go buy the Q3, as you also prefer a 28mm lens, however please put some effort into the editing too, at least create some little presets that allow you to edit in second and bring some life to the image.

Difference with Leica is that when you buy a Q, the percentage you lose will be less that other brands. The Q3 will at some point go up in price too and that helps to protect the used prices.

I doubt you’ll regret your purchase and I am sure you will love using it.

[GREG PLAT]

19 minutes ago, JTLeica said:

If you want one lens and one camera only just go buy the Q3, as you also prefer a 28mm lens, however please put some effort into the editing too, at least create some little presets that allow you to edit in second and bring some life to the image.

Difference with Leica is that when you buy a Q, the percentage you lose will be less that other brands. The Q3 will at some point go up in price too and that helps to protect the used prices.

I doubt you’ll regret your purchase and I am sure you will love using it.

Ok can you send me some tutorials or videos to edit professionally DNG files from Q3 in Adobe Lightroom. I know it very little and not deeply. 

[RSH-Photo]

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On 2/20/2024 at 3:41 PM, bobtodrick said:

Pretty strong ‘opinions’.

As Bill Bullard said…opinion is the lowest form of human knowledge.

Why engage in most any forum discussion if you don't want to listen to others' opinions?

[ksrhee]

4 hours ago, GREG PLAT said:

So you believe Xt5 with 18/1,4 is better from Leica Q3? What’s your opinion? 

I have that same combination (XT-5 w/ 18mm 1.4), but I do believe the Q3 delivers better quality than the Fuji, from my perspective.  The Fuji combination is a great camera and lens, but I prefer the Q3.

[bobtodrick]

58 minutes ago, RSH-Photo said:

Why engage in most any forum discussion if you don't want to listen to others' opinions?

Because statements like “OVF in X100 is useless” go beyond opinion…the implied ‘opinion’ being that anyone who likes the OVF in the X100 mustn’t be very bright.

Opinion is just that…opinion…it isn’t definitive.

[Le Chef]

2 hours ago, GREG PLAT said:

Ok can you send me some tutorials or videos to edit professionally DNG files from Q3 in Adobe Lightroom. I know it very little and not deeply. 

I would look here for starters: https://lightroom.adobe.com/academy/editing/lightroom-essentials

[Driften]

6 hours ago, GREG PLAT said:

Thanks. The results are amazing! This is why the dilemma to decide which camera I ll buy is so so difficult.

Q3 has amazing lens, full frame and Fuji X100VI more portable and great JPEG. 
I like 28mm more than 35mm. If I buy X100 VI I will use the extension lens 28mm. 
I can’t test any camera. I must buy one. Any last ideas or suggestions?

The X100V/VI with the wide angle WCL is not more portable than a Q series camera and is heavier than your X-T5 with a XF 18mm f/2. The X100VI is the same sensor as your X-T5 so you should already know what sort of JPG's and files you can get out of it. The X-T5 with a Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8 is the same weight a Q3 but 15-20mm longer in that set up depending on if you have a thumbs up on the Q3. If you mount a XF 27mm the X-T5 is 35-40mm shorter than a Q3 and lighter. You already have that camera and if size and weight is the issue try something other than your XF 10-24. Heck even the Sigma 10-18mm saves you 24mm and 4.8oz over the XF 10-24 and would be lighter than a Q3.

You don't need to spend another $1600-6000 on a new camera to do what you want. You want a new camera. I love my Q2 Reporter and my X-T5. I don't plan on selling either one of them, but a Q2/Q3 is not $5000 better technically than a X-T5. A Q2/Q3 will be a better experience to use with a better build quality. A Q2/Q3 feels more natural in use, how much is a better user interface worth to you? For me it was worth the $5k I paid for my Q2 Reporter since I had the money and the X100V didn't have the feel I had with a Q or a CL. 

In any case it may not matter. Pre-orders on an X100VI are massive and unless you got on a list on launch day it may be many months before you can buy one. Also the Q3 is not yet to up to the point of walking into a store and going home with one. It can be weeks/months still depending on how lucky you are. 

[Driften]

5 hours ago, GREG PLAT said:

My desire is no more interchangeable lens. 
One camera one lens wherever I ll go. 
 

How is taking the X-T5 with only one prime lens with you any different than a fixed lens camera? At that point you made your decision and can't change it in the field. If the mental equation is what matters most get on the list for a Q3 and in weeks/months be happy. Or buy a used Q2 and be happy now for a few thousand less and keep the X-T5 for the times you need something else and still have money left over. The prices on Q2's has really come down since the Q3 was announced.

[Le Chef]

As said elsewhere, since you already have the XT5 with a 40MP sensor, I would simply add an 18mm or 23mm lens. Take whichever and that’s it with your XT5 and travel light. That way you both save yourself $thousands but still have the flexibility to add more lenses later. In your position I wouldn’t buy either the X100 or the Q3: I would build my needs around the XT5.

I have a CL and a number of lenses + a Q3. I only very rarely take out the CL with more than one lens. And always take the Q3 solo with no backup. But with the CL one day it might be the 23mm, another day the 18-56, and another day the 11-23 and another the 55-135. I like the discipline of only taking one lens, but that’s a personal choice after years of lugging an enormous Billingham bag around with multiple Canon bodies with motor drives and a rack of long lenses. 

My advice would be to avoid the feeding frenzy and keep it as simple as you possibly can.

[Le Chef]

I might also add that if you insisted on getting a fixed lens camera then the obvious one to get would be the X100 simply because you are familiar with the UI and it would take you far less time to set the camera up to suit your usage pattern. But to repeat my previous post I would simply buy a lens to use on the XT5.

[Qwertynm]

vor 5 Stunden schrieb Le Chef:

I might also add that if you insisted on getting a fixed lens camera then the obvious one to get would be the X100 (...)

I disagree with this and agree with that:

vor 5 Stunden schrieb Le Chef:

(...) But to repeat my previous post I would simply buy a lens to use on the XT5.

buying a fixed lens camera with the "wrong" focal length and slapping on a wide angle adapter is imho the wrong approach. @GREG PLAT either buy a XF 18 1.4 and keep on shooting jpgs with your Fuji XT-5. This would be in my opinion the obvious first step to see if you like the 28mm FoV. If you've reached the potential of your Fuji files (yes, Fuji does also shoot raw) then get yourself a Q1 2 or 3, whichever fits your budget and make yourself familiar with photo editing. good luck

[GREG PLAT]

9 minutes ago, Qwertynm said:

I disagree with this and agree with that:

buying a fixed lens camera with the "wrong" focal length and slapping on a wide angle adapter is imho the wrong approach. @GREG PLAT either buy a XF 18 1.4 and keep on shooting jpgs with your Fuji XT-5. This would be in my opinion the obvious first step to see if you like the 28mm FoV. If you've reached the potential of your Fuji files (yes, Fuji does also shoot raw) then get yourself a Q1 2 or 3, whichever fits your budget and make yourself familiar with photo editing. good luck

My perfect focal is 28mm. It seems that XT5 w XF18/1,4 is the perfect combibation but i wanted some smaller, Q3 is not small with the lens. 

I always have my Ricoh GR II 

[Qwertynm]

vor 28 Minuten schrieb GREG PLAT:

but i wanted some smaller

maybe you need to sort out first what you actually want. Fuji has a 18/2 pancake. Doubt this lens is still in production as it was one of the lenses introduced at launch of the Fuji X system. Canon has the RF 28/2.8 pancake and a small and relatively lightweight Canon R8 full frame camera. Nikon too has a 28/2.8 pancake that is relatively small. Sony probably has options too. But none of those options will be as small as your Ricoh GRII. If the Leica Q is too big, I doubt you'll find something else than a Ricoh GR (at 28mm) that is both smaller and comparable in output quality:  https://camerasize.com/compact/#820,900.572,903.1101,819,ha,t

Edited February 28, 2024 by Qwertynm

[GREG PLAT]

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I uploaded some random photos from my last trip to Berlin and Munchen in order to see my photographic style. All photos are Screenshots from JPEG and unedited striaght from camera. All photos are from my small and lovely Ricoh GRII. Its very discreet and i can be invisible in a way. I never used XT5 for street photography! 

Maybe i am asking my self i have all i need Ricoh GR II and XT5 and why go to buy a camera 6.000$ in order to have more sharp, better photos when my project is not to print in big dimensions 70 x100cm but print books with my photos 20x30cm or sell them via my website. Its more difficult and rude to shot with a bigger camera Leica q3 30cm from faces.

What your opinion? About my photos and my dilemma for the new camera?

 

Edited February 28, 2024 by GREG PLAT

[kirkmc]

I had an X100F for a while, and I loved that camera. it's really compact and fits in a pocket easily, something the Q can't do. While the Fuji lens is no match for the Q - I have a Q3 - it's small size and ease of use makes it a great camera to carry around when you don't want to carry a £5,000 camera. I like Fujifilm's film simulations too; they have the advantage of having a history of making film stocks, and offer lots of options for JPEGs. I sold all my Fujifilm gear when I bought the Q3, just after it was released, but may pick up the X100VI to have a small, light, less expensive camera that's not an iPhone. 

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[Qwertynm]

vor einer Stunde schrieb GREG PLAT:

What your opinion? About my photos and my dilemma for the new camera?

my opinion is you don't know what you want. figure out what you want, where you want to improve your images or shooting style and then consider a new camera. maybe it's not even a new camera but a trip to a city you've never been to or a new photo book for inspiration. this back and forth has been going on for a couple of pages and you're still where you set off.