didier Posted December 29, 2023 Share #21 Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Here are a few pics from a few minutes ago. I wasn’t sure of my model availability and that she’d accept a few photos OOC pictures, I just adjusted colors with a grey card. No ‘auto’ adjust, no contrast change, no luminosity adjustment, nada. SL(601) with Summilux-SL 50 @ 1.4 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited December 29, 2023 by didier 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/383494-late-to-the-50-summilux-sl-party/?do=findComment&comment=4966566'>More sharing options...
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didier Posted December 29, 2023 Share #22 Posted December 29, 2023 Here is the same model, with Summilux-M 75 (though the meta data says Tele-Elmar 135, it surely is my ‘lux 75) SL(601) with Summilux-M 75 wide open Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! SL(601) with Summilux-M 75 @ f2 SL(601) with Summilux-M 75 @ f5.6 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! SL(601) with Summilux-M 75 @ f2 SL(601) with Summilux-M 75 @ f5.6 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/383494-late-to-the-50-summilux-sl-party/?do=findComment&comment=4966569'>More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted December 29, 2023 Share #23 Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) I can see one of these lenses coming in my direction! While I am still telling myself I don't need one (a losing battle, I'm afraid), does anyone have portraits taken in unflattering conditions? Direct sunlight or strong artificial light? For me this is the test of a good portrait lens: how it handles imperfect skin and small blemishes that catch the light. Does it create tiny blown highlights? How does it handle shiny skin? The Apo-Summicrons show wonderful detail and texture, but the microcontrast can be unforgiving, and it can be difficult to correct in post except by flattening the skin to give the look of too much make-up. The Summilux-M 75 can produce more gentle and realistic skin textures straight out of the camera. Edit. By coincidence, I have just seen this image posted by @Sohail - just what I was asking for. Thank you Sohail! Edited December 29, 2023 by LocalHero1953 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OR120 Posted December 30, 2023 Share #24 Posted December 30, 2023 On 12/29/2023 at 1:01 PM, didier said: Here is the same model, with Summilux-M 75 (though the meta data says Tele-Elmar 135, it surely is my ‘lux 75) SL(601) with Summilux-M 75 wide open Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! SL(601) with Summilux-M 75 @ f2 SL(601) with Summilux-M 75 @ f5.6 Between these two lenses - I'll take the 75 Lux all day long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
didier Posted December 31, 2023 Share #25 Posted December 31, 2023 20 hours ago, OR120 said: Between these two lenses - I'll take the 75 Lux all day long. The 75 lux is an amazing Lens. It’s painterly OOF rendering is quite unique and it renders colors with great subtlety. I love this Lens. I like the lux 50 SL very much as well, easy to use with autofocus, smooth yet sharp rendering, though much more modern than the ‘lux 75. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted December 31, 2023 Share #26 Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) On 12/30/2023 at 7:38 AM, LocalHero1953 said: I can see one of these lenses coming in my direction! While I am still telling myself I don't need one (a losing battle, I'm afraid), does anyone have portraits taken in unflattering conditions? Direct sunlight or strong artificial light? For me this is the test of a good portrait lens: how it handles imperfect skin and small blemishes that catch the light. Does it create tiny blown highlights? How does it handle shiny skin? The Apo-Summicrons show wonderful detail and texture, but the microcontrast can be unforgiving, and it can be difficult to correct in post except by flattening the skin to give the look of too much make-up. The Summilux-M 75 can produce more gentle and realistic skin textures straight out of the camera. Edit. By coincidence, I have just seen this image posted by @Sohail - just what I was asking for. Thank you Sohail! Hi Paul, I had both. I loved the 50 Summilux-SL, but never did a direct comparison (I’m away at the moment, but will try to fish something out when I get home in a week or so). I sold my 50 Summilux when I downsized my SL gear, and regretted it. It is heavy, but on the SL(601), it balances nicely. It is the best 50, bar none, in my view. But, I have the 75 Summilux-M, and the 50 Noctilux 0.95 (and 3 other 50s in M mount), so the 50 Summilux-SL went. Comparing the 2 is hard. The 75 Summilux-M is a lovely lens, soft wide open and sharp stopped down (I have printed enlarged landscapes taken with this lens and the detail is extraordinary). It’s a keeper; but mine is over 40 years old …. Conversely, the 50 Summilux-SL is a modern lens, perhaps not as soft wide open as the 75, but it is a lovely lens. It is a Karbe masterpiece, choosing f-stop for depth of field. I never found portraits harsh, but the 75 is softer wide open (from memory). The roll off is very gentle. For me, the choice was a lighter, more compact manual focus M lens I could use on both my M cameras and my SL, or a bigger, heavier 50 AF lens I could only use on the SL, when I already have 4 50s in M mount. That said, if I was committed to the SL system, it could be my only 50; I wouldn’t sell my 75 though! Such is a Leica user’s conundrum … Edit - I should add that the AF is slow compared to, say, the 75 Summicron-SL; that is largely a reflection of the size and number of glass elements it has to move. If the SL3 has PDAF, I would expect the speed to improve. Edited December 31, 2023 by IkarusJohn 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted December 31, 2023 Share #27 Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 24 minutes ago, IkarusJohn said: Hi Paul, I had both. I loved the 50 Summilux-SL, but never did a direct comparison (I’m away at the moment, but will try to fish something out when I get home in a week or so). I sold my 50 Summilux when I downsized my SL gear, and regretted it. It is heavy, but on the SL(601), it balances nicely. It is the best 50, bar none, in my view. But, I have the 75 Summilux-M, and the 50 Noctilux 0.95 (and 3 other 50s in M mount), so the 50 Summilux-SL went. Comparing the 2 is hard. The 75 Summilux-M is a lovely lens, soft wide open and sharp stopped down (I have printed enlarged landscapes taken with this lens and the detail is extraordinary). It’s a keeper; but mine is over 40 years old …. Conversely, the 50 Summilux-SL is a modern lens, perhaps not as soft wide open as the 75, but it is a lovely lens. It is a Karbe masterpiece, choosing f-stop for depth of field. I never found portraits harsh, but the 75 is softer wide open (from memory). The roll off is very gentle. For me, the choice was a lighter, more compact manual focus M lens I could use on both my M cameras and my SL, or a bigger, heavier 50 AF lens I could only use on the SL, when I already have 4 50s in M mount. That said, if I was committed to the SL system, it could be my only 50; I wouldn’t sell my 75 though! Such is a Leica user’s conundrum … Edit - I should add that the AF is slow compared to, say, the 75 Summicron-SL; that is largely a reflection of the size and number of glass elements it has to move. If the SL3 has PDAF, I would expect the speed to improve. Thank you, a very helpful analysis. If I get the Summilux-SL 50, I would certainly keep my Summilux-M 75 which I value for the reasons you explain. Edited December 31, 2023 by LocalHero1953 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEL Posted January 1, 2024 Share #28 Posted January 1, 2024 Dear all, many thanks for your input. Very helpful. I also owned the 35 and 75 Apo-Summicron-SL lenses and wanted to add a 50mm prime. And rather than having three Apo's in a row, I also decided for a used but as-new Summilux-SL (as the OP), for a very attractive price (nearly half). First test shots were very (!) convincing, I look forward to taking the Lux into the field:-) Btw, I do no think it is too heavy, but I am rather tall. I found out the Peak large design adjustable strap where you can fix at bottom and right side of the camera allows me to carry cross-body, makes a huge difference. The camera dangles at a convenient angle and the strap distributes weight very well. Of course any other strap you fix that way will do as well. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted January 5, 2024 Share #29 Posted January 5, 2024 (edited) This just arrived. I was going to try one at Leica in London, which has several s/h versions for sale. But this turned up at a very good price on eBay, so I took a risk. Boxed, without the lens pouch they normally come with (which I just store), but with unopened manuals. It required a f/w update, but otherwise seems fine. I have a few opportunities to use it with people over the next few days. It's a big beast, subjectively similar in weight to the 24-90 though shorter - but when you're used to the 90-280 this is just a pussy cat. Now to decide what to sell in compensation. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited January 5, 2024 by LocalHero1953 12 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/383494-late-to-the-50-summilux-sl-party/?do=findComment&comment=4974704'>More sharing options...
helged Posted January 5, 2024 Share #30 Posted January 5, 2024 23 minutes ago, LocalHero1953 said: This just arrived. I was going to try one at Leica in London, which has several s/h versions for sale. But this turned up at a very good price on eBay, so I took a risk. Boxed, without the lens pouch they normally come with (which I just store), but with unopened manuals. It required a f/w update, but otherwise seems fine. I have a few opportunities to use it with people over the next few days. It's a big beast, subjectively similar in weight to the 24-90 though shorter - but when you're used to the 90-280 this is just a pussy cat. Now to decide what to sell in compensation. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! The SL50-Lux has become an(other) fav SL-prime for me, even for landscape shooting, wide open. The other top SL-primes - for me - are SL21 and SL35-APO. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. G Posted January 5, 2024 Share #31 Posted January 5, 2024 It’s a great lens… and not just for portraits. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 12 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/383494-late-to-the-50-summilux-sl-party/?do=findComment&comment=4974994'>More sharing options...
didier Posted January 7, 2024 Share #32 Posted January 7, 2024 On 1/5/2024 at 5:54 PM, LocalHero1953 said: This just arrived. I was going to try one at Leica in London, which has several s/h versions for sale. But this turned up at a very good price on eBay, so I took a risk. Boxed, without the lens pouch they normally come with (which I just store), but with unopened manuals. It required a f/w update, but otherwise seems fine. I have a few opportunities to use it with people over the next few days. It's a big beast, subjectively similar in weight to the 24-90 though shorter - but when you're used to the 90-280 this is just a pussy cat. Now to decide what to sell in compensation. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Congrats ! Have fun, you won’t be deceived 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcatral14 Posted January 8, 2024 Share #33 Posted January 8, 2024 On 12/28/2023 at 5:29 PM, _Olivier said: My favorite lens at the moment. So gorgeous wide open. https://www.olivierdesmet.com/in-praise-of-stillness?itemId=07k5lc2bi6h3sfr33q4pr7rel955wd Fantastic shots!! TFS 🙏 Makes me want to break out the SL2-s and 50Lux and take a trip 💓 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted January 9, 2024 Share #34 Posted January 9, 2024 (edited) On 12/28/2023 at 6:11 AM, Planetwide said: The 75mm SL Summicron is just as beautiful! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! For me, the bokeh is somewhat on the busy side for both SL75 and SL90 (tendency for double lines, in sted of a smooth/creamy, oof rendering). The sharpness and transition from in-focus to out-of-focus are, however, special. Edited January 9, 2024 by helged 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohail Posted January 9, 2024 Share #35 Posted January 9, 2024 (edited) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Earlier today the 50 SL Summilux at 1.4. I just love the bokeh! Edited January 9, 2024 by Sohail 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Earlier today the 50 SL Summilux at 1.4. I just love the bokeh! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/383494-late-to-the-50-summilux-sl-party/?do=findComment&comment=4979182'>More sharing options...
Sohail Posted January 9, 2024 Share #36 Posted January 9, 2024 (edited) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! The 90 APO Edited January 9, 2024 by Sohail 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! The 90 APO ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/383494-late-to-the-50-summilux-sl-party/?do=findComment&comment=4979213'>More sharing options...
Sohail Posted January 9, 2024 Share #37 Posted January 9, 2024 (edited) Another 90 APO at f/2. Decent bokeh I'd say. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited January 9, 2024 by Sohail 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/383494-late-to-the-50-summilux-sl-party/?do=findComment&comment=4979319'>More sharing options...
Dr. G Posted January 9, 2024 Share #38 Posted January 9, 2024 Anyone have experience using the 50 Lux in bright sun without the hood? I ended up taking both my 50 Lux SL and 50 APO SL to an event in Grand Cayman this week. If I don’t have to use the hood it would make it slightly more manageable. I just don’t want to end up with hazy images or flares. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. G Posted January 9, 2024 Share #39 Posted January 9, 2024 5 hours ago, Sohail said: Another 90 APO at f/2. Decent bokeh I'd say. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! The 90 APO and 75 APO are great - I’ve tried the 75 at events and it requires a little more working room than I’m comfortable with when things get crowded. No way I could shoot the 90 at an event without a wider lens on a second body. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted January 9, 2024 Share #40 Posted January 9, 2024 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Dr. G said: Anyone have experience using the 50 Lux in bright sun without the hood? I ended up taking both my 50 Lux SL and 50 APO SL to an event in Grand Cayman this week. If I don’t have to use the hood it would make it slightly more manageable. I just don’t want to end up with hazy images or flares. SL50Lux has a tendency to flare/ghost when shooting against highlights/the sun. Personally, I use the lens without the (large) shade, using the EVF to check whether (major) flaring is present. To reduce the risk of flaring, the hood is recommended. I attach three images where slight change in the orientation of the lens avoided serious flaring - based on checking the EVF. All SL50-Lux @f1.4 on SL2-S. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited January 9, 2024 by helged 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/383494-late-to-the-50-summilux-sl-party/?do=findComment&comment=4979724'>More sharing options...
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