David Wien Posted October 29, 2023 Share #21 Posted October 29, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) 10 hours ago, kIB said: I have 32 GB ram at a pc from 2012 and no problems handling the files - exept for DXO noise reduction when shooting high iso.s= Here it is really slow, but others claim the same. The speed of DXO (as in PhotoLab) and other noise reducing programs depends greatly on the speed of the graphics processor, GPU, rather than the amount of RAM. An 11 year old pc is unlikely to have one of these that can keep up with the demands of the noise reducing processing. My PC from 2010 had an onboard GPU and I had to replace it in 2021 when I started using PhotoLab, with one that has a dedicated GPU on a board. I doubt whether any of the non photo-processing programs that I use, including those for professional audio recording and editing, makes use of this GPU. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LocalHero1953 Posted October 29, 2023 Share #22 Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) No Q3 here - just Q2. Adobe software has always had RAM issues, which they occasionally solve, but keep coming back. At one time LR just leaked memory as you worked - you could see RAM use rising until it hit the max and the system would freeze. That's not happening at the moment AFAIC, but RAM use does seem to increase without obvious reason from time to time. Closing LR every now and then and restarting cures it. I edit mostly on a high spec PC with Windows 11 and 16Gb RAM and RTX 2080 GPU and generally have no speed problems. I have none on my MacBook Pro M1 Pro with 32Gb. Edited October 29, 2023 by LocalHero1953 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick NL Posted October 29, 2023 Share #23 Posted October 29, 2023 A 24 megapixel Z6II file is something else than a 60 megapixel DNG from a Q3. That is obvious. I have a M1 MacBook Pro with 1TB SSD and 16GB memory. As long as you have enough storage space left on the SSD, that works fine if you do not open too much next to it. There are enough tests to be found that will tell you a bigger SSD in a MPB is a better investment than more memory. I would not go higher than 32GB; in the tests I saw they could not push things so hard the 64GB was clearly faster than 32GB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
idusidusi Posted October 29, 2023 Share #24 Posted October 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Patrick NL said: A 24 megapixel Z6II file is something else than a 60 megapixel DNG from a Q3. That is obvious. I have a M1 MacBook Pro with 1TB SSD and 16GB memory. As long as you have enough storage space left on the SSD, that works fine if you do not open too much next to it. There are enough tests to be found that will tell you a bigger SSD in a MPB is a better investment than more memory. I would not go higher than 32GB; in the tests I saw they could not push things so hard the 64GB was clearly faster than 32GB. Agreed partially, but it also depends how many other windows one has open. I usually have Safari, Mail, Calendar, Eagle Filer, Spam Sieve etc open at the same time that I may also open Capture One and Davinci. With 2TB SSD internal and 64GB RAM, there is never an issue with storage or RAM. Everything runs as fast as I can keep up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick NL Posted October 29, 2023 Share #25 Posted October 29, 2023 That is an almost maxed-out configuration. But if you want to cut costs, apparently it is better to invest in a bigger SSD than extra memory. A bigger SSD helps you to keep more files on your laptop and gives enough fast swap space if you run out of memory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbyshire Man Posted October 29, 2023 Share #26 Posted October 29, 2023 I’ve got a q2m and Mac Studio ultra. Runs like greased lightening. Silver Efex however is a pain in the neck, it seems to want to load every single time and takes 5-10 seconds each time. It’s a real workflow killer! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kIB Posted November 18, 2023 Share #27 Posted November 18, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 10/29/2023 at 8:59 AM, David Wien said: The speed of DXO (as in PhotoLab) and other noise reducing programs depends greatly on the speed of the graphics processor, GPU, rather than the amount of RAM. An 11 year old pc is unlikely to have one of these that can keep up with the demands of the noise reducing processing. My PC from 2010 had an onboard GPU and I had to replace it in 2021 when I started using PhotoLab, with one that has a dedicated GPU on a board. I doubt whether any of the non photo-processing programs that I use, including those for professional audio recording and editing, makes use of this GPU. David Thank You very much for this information, yes the gpu is old - I am about to buy 2 new pc.s next year - perhaps I shift to Mac, and I will look more into the GPU, but my laptop (PC) only has 16 gb ram, and it is slower to process the files from Q3, than my 32 gb ram in the desktop, - ...in dxo lab 6 elite - so ram does mean something, but as I understand you NOT in the noise reduction deep prime XD (DXO lab 6 or 7) - everybody is very happy with this noise reduction, IF... they have a fast pc/mac. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Wien Posted November 30, 2023 Share #28 Posted November 30, 2023 On 11/18/2023 at 3:05 AM, kIB said: Thank You very much for this information, yes the gpu is old - I am about to buy 2 new pc.s next year - perhaps I shift to Mac, and I will look more into the GPU, but my laptop (PC) only has 16 gb ram, and it is slower to process the files from Q3, than my 32 gb ram in the desktop, - ...in dxo lab 6 elite - so ram does mean something, but as I understand you NOT in the noise reduction deep prime XD (DXO lab 6 or 7) - everybody is very happy with this noise reduction, IF... they have a fast pc/mac. If you go to the Performance, tab of PhotoLab's Preferences (CTL-SHFT-P in Windows), there are options for selecting CPU, GPU or AUTO for noise reduction. I leave mine on AUTO. Also, I set my cache to Maximum (5000MB in my case). This last is RAM-related, of course. You might experiment with these settings. But it does sound as though you may benefit more from hardware updates. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltz Posted November 30, 2023 Author Share #29 Posted November 30, 2023 Just wanted to update everyone. I upgraded to a M3 Max with 36GB of Ram and it's truly a massive upgrade from my M1 Pro. Easily twice as fast. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hexx Posted December 2, 2023 Share #30 Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) Might be irrelevant but if you have a lot of tabs open in Chrome, this will eat your memory a lot. I don’t have q2/q3 but do edit some large files in C1 on Mac Mini M1/16GB and don’t have issues. I tend to use Safari as it seems to have a better resources management than Chrome Edited December 2, 2023 by hexx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpitt Posted December 3, 2023 Share #31 Posted December 3, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 1:44 PM, hexx said: Might be irrelevant but if you have a lot of tabs open in Chrome, this will eat your memory a lot. +1 Same experience here. I switched to Firefox and occasional use of Safari. If you are on older hardware, Firefox will offer more recent software updates. Safari is deeply integrated with Mac OS. Once your hardware is 'stuck' on a certain Mac OS version updating Safari comes to a halt. Maybe some minimal security updates, but that's it. Chrome and Firefox keep up support for older Mac OS versions for their latest versions. I am on a 2015 MBP now, stuck on Mac OS 12.x, while the current Mac OS is 14.x. It can run the latest versions of both Firefox and Chrome. Safari can not update apart from security updates. Hence my preference for Firefox because it is up to date and does not eat as much resources as Chrome. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 4, 2023 Share #32 Posted December 4, 2023 On 11/30/2023 at 9:36 AM, Miltz said: Just wanted to update everyone. I upgraded to a M3 Max with 36GB of Ram and it's truly a massive upgrade from my M1 Pro. Easily twice as fast. I don't doubt it, but I think that running CleanMyMac or doing a reinstall would have saved you a not inconsiderable amount of money. Computers slow down or suddenly choke when software maintenance is neglected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huwm Posted December 5, 2023 Share #33 Posted December 5, 2023 12 hours ago, jaapv said: I don't doubt it, but I think that running CleanMyMac or doing a reinstall would have saved you a not inconsiderable amount of money. Computers slow down or suddenly choke when software maintenance is neglected. I use Onyx regularly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 5, 2023 Share #34 Posted December 5, 2023 Onyx has a good reputation as well, but CMM is more user friendly. I’m sure that there are more optimization apps. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Wien Posted December 5, 2023 Share #35 Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, jaapv said: Computers slow down or suddenly choke when software maintenance is neglected. Funny. Apart from hard disks getting full and needing pruning every so often, I do little maintenance on my PC, apart from running CCleaner occasionally, and I detect no slowing down or „choking“. I accept that a complete reinstall speeds a lot of things up, but it is a PITA to go through! Possibly my long-standing policy of using the C drive exclusively for programs, with lots of space left over, and putting data on other fast SSDs is helpful. David Edited December 5, 2023 by David Wien Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 5, 2023 Share #36 Posted December 5, 2023 A reinstall on a Mac is quick and easy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Wien Posted December 5, 2023 Share #37 Posted December 5, 2023 1 hour ago, jaapv said: A reinstall on a Mac is quick and easy. Including reinstalling all applications? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 5, 2023 Share #38 Posted December 5, 2023 That is an automatic process through Time Machine and/or iCloud. But before a reinstall is needed a quick clean through CleanMyMac(or similar) usually suffices. I run that app every two weeks. It removes redundant and orphan files, checks for malware, cleans up RAM and runs a series of optimization programs. All within a few minutes. Often it speeds the computer up noticeably. It will also find large and old files, update and uninstall apps, show and manage you disk usage, etc. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/383467-leica-q3-raw-files-editing-performance/?do=findComment&comment=4931314'>More sharing options...
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