alphahydro15 Posted April 20, 2024 Share #201 Posted April 20, 2024 Advertisement (gone after registration) Picked up a 21 apo a week or so ago from oc camera (I mention this because they had another one in stock if anyone is looking). haven't had time to take it out, other than to shoot it up at the trees as the sun was setting. image below is straight ooc. no adjustments at all. I can't figure out how to post a high quality image here, but I am really happy with the quality of the images. first impression is the colors seem easier to work with than my 35 apo (?) I shot 28/50 and then 25/50 for a long time. switched to 35/70 and spent a good deal of time debating whether I should get 14-24, the WATE, or the 21 to complement the 35/70. after scrolling through a ton of pics, decided to go with the 21. extremely pleased so far (after pixel peeping a handful of tree shots. lol). cheers. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/383287-where-are-all-the-reviews-of-the-21-apo/?do=findComment&comment=5201406'>More sharing options...
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helged Posted April 20, 2024 Share #202 Posted April 20, 2024 56 minutes ago, alphahydro15 said: Picked up a 21 apo a week or so ago from oc camera (I mention this because they had another one in stock if anyone is looking). haven't had time to take it out, other than to shoot it up at the trees as the sun was setting. image below is straight ooc. no adjustments at all. I can't figure out how to post a high quality image here, but I am really happy with the quality of the images. first impression is the colors seem easier to work with than my 35 apo (?) I shot 28/50 and then 25/50 for a long time. switched to 35/70 and spent a good deal of time debating whether I should get 14-24, the WATE, or the 21 to complement the 35/70. after scrolling through a ton of pics, decided to go with the 21. extremely pleased so far (after pixel peeping a handful of tree shots. lol). cheers. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! +1. All I can say is that SL21 delivers beautifully. As does the other SL APOs. On my side, SL21 and SL35APO are on the top. I also love SL50Lux (not for its size and weight, but for a very pleasant rendering). On the longer side, I either pick SL90APO or, for a less perfect but still lovely rendering, Sigma 85mm DG DN f1.4. So many choises, where Leica’s SL APO Crons are all outstanding and internally consistent wrt colours. Sigma 14-24 and WATE are also fine, but SL21 is a step or two) up. For astrophotigraphy, 21mm can be on the long side, so in this case Sigma 14-21, or Sigma 14mm DG DN, are good choises. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphahydro15 Posted April 21, 2024 Share #203 Posted April 21, 2024 21 hours ago, helged said: +1. All I can say is that SL21 delivers beautifully. As does the other SL APOs. On my side, SL21 and SL35APO are on the top. I also love SL50Lux (not for its size and weight, but for a very pleasant rendering). On the longer side, I either pick SL90APO or, for a less perfect but still lovely rendering, Sigma 85mm DG DN f1.4. So many choises, where Leica’s SL APO Crons are all outstanding and internally consistent wrt colours. Sigma 14-24 and WATE are also fine, but SL21 is a step or two) up. For astrophotigraphy, 21mm can be on the long side, so in this case Sigma 14-21, or Sigma 14mm DG DN, are good choises. Thank you! I love the way the SL 35 APO renders, and the 21 renders very similarly, from what i can tell. looking back on my decision to purchase the 21 apo, I think my satisfaction with my 35 heavily influenced my decision to go with another SL APO over the convenience of a wide angle zoom in the end. so far, i have no regrets whatsoever (in case this helps someone else making a similar decision). my "70" is actually a 75 1.25 M. other than dreaming of a 200 apo sl, i am very happy. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohail Posted April 21, 2024 Share #204 Posted April 21, 2024 I have the 28 APO and have been very tempted to get the 21 APO. I just couldn't justify it. Practically, it's taking one step back on a 28 APO. A zoom (for me) would make more sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff C. Bassett Posted May 11, 2024 Share #205 Posted May 11, 2024 Rented it for a shoot. Couple of test images. It's just as good as the rest of the lineup. I'm conflicted on purchasing it, as I think 28mm suites me better and has better rendering, but this 21mm would be a godsend for event work and video. I can't justify keeping both. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Full Size Cropped to 100% 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Full Size Cropped to 100% ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/383287-where-are-all-the-reviews-of-the-21-apo/?do=findComment&comment=5268456'>More sharing options...
Leica Luke Posted May 11, 2024 Share #206 Posted May 11, 2024 (edited) for edge to edge sharpness I don't think you will be disappointed with the SL21 APO. I took this test shot as it was the perfect spot for testing a lens capability due to sheer amount of vegetation and looking at the image on my 4K monitor, everything is tack sharp. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited May 11, 2024 by Leica Luke 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/383287-where-are-all-the-reviews-of-the-21-apo/?do=findComment&comment=5270085'>More sharing options...
Sohail Posted May 11, 2024 Share #207 Posted May 11, 2024 Advertisement (gone after registration) The 21 APO will distort more than the 28. I'm happy with my 28 APO. An image the other day: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/383287-where-are-all-the-reviews-of-the-21-apo/?do=findComment&comment=5270430'>More sharing options...
Geoff C. Bassett Posted May 12, 2024 Share #208 Posted May 12, 2024 SL2 30 second exposure Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 8 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/383287-where-are-all-the-reviews-of-the-21-apo/?do=findComment&comment=5273155'>More sharing options...
Geoff C. Bassett Posted July 12, 2024 Share #209 Posted July 12, 2024 It has been wonderful lens for event photography. Ability to get in very tight spaces and get flattering results is quite impressive. I do turn off distortion correction first, as it makes faces more flattering. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/383287-where-are-all-the-reviews-of-the-21-apo/?do=findComment&comment=5418579'>More sharing options...
Dr. G Posted July 12, 2024 Share #210 Posted July 12, 2024 1 hour ago, Geoff C. Bassett said: It has been wonderful lens for event photography. Ability to get in very tight spaces and get flattering results is quite impressive. I do turn off distortion correction first, as it makes faces more flattering. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! You turn off distortion correction? Interesting. What camera? I didn't even know there was an option to turn it off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff C. Bassett Posted July 12, 2024 Share #211 Posted July 12, 2024 Just now, Dr. G said: You turn off distortion correction? Interesting. What camera? I didn't even know there was an option to turn it off. In Capture One under the Shape -> Lens Correction you can remove the distortion correction in the raw file. Thankful the lens has a simple barrel distortion uncorrected so it still looks clean without having any face distortion. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightsourcekauai Posted July 12, 2024 Share #212 Posted July 12, 2024 (edited) The 21 APO renders detail better than any wide angle lens I have used to date. SL3 and 21 APO .(Not sure what's going on with the banding in the sky. Perhaps the low resolution? This is not in the original file. Anyway the 21 APO is a fantastic lens) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited July 12, 2024 by lightsourcekauai Clarification 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/383287-where-are-all-the-reviews-of-the-21-apo/?do=findComment&comment=5419073'>More sharing options...
Geoff C. Bassett Posted July 12, 2024 Share #213 Posted July 12, 2024 Close up portrait of my future supervillain. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 8 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/383287-where-are-all-the-reviews-of-the-21-apo/?do=findComment&comment=5419360'>More sharing options...
swatch Posted July 16, 2024 Share #214 Posted July 16, 2024 On 7/12/2024 at 11:57 PM, Geoff C. Bassett said: In Capture One under the Shape -> Lens Correction you can remove the distortion correction in the raw file. Thankful the lens has a simple barrel distortion uncorrected so it still looks clean without having any face distortion. Hi Bassett, Would you please show us with and without correction by lens profile of the same photo in order to see how much the distortion is if uncorrected? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swatch Posted July 16, 2024 Share #215 Posted July 16, 2024 On 5/11/2024 at 5:11 PM, Sohail said: The 21 APO will distort more than the 28. I'm happy with my 28 APO. An image the other day: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Hi Sohail, Do you mean 21 has more distortion is due to difference in focal length 21 vs 28? I recall Zeiss M-mount 21 f/4.5 is claimed to be zero distortion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohail Posted July 16, 2024 Share #216 Posted July 16, 2024 Optical or digital distortion? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff C. Bassett Posted July 16, 2024 Share #217 Posted July 16, 2024 7 hours ago, swatch said: Hi Bassett, Would you please show us with and without correction by lens profile of the same photo in order to see how much the distortion is if uncorrected? Thanks Sure. With Optical Distortion Correction: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Without Distortion Correction: Look how much more flattering it is to their faces. Additionally you get a wider field of view. 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Without Distortion Correction: Look how much more flattering it is to their faces. Additionally you get a wider field of view. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/383287-where-are-all-the-reviews-of-the-21-apo/?do=findComment&comment=5424475'>More sharing options...
swatch Posted July 17, 2024 Share #218 Posted July 17, 2024 16 hours ago, Geoff C. Bassett said: Sure. With Optical Distortion Correction: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Without Distortion Correction: Look how much more flattering it is to their faces. Additionally you get a wider field of view. Thanks Bassett. With these two pictures I can see the distortion correction is a trade off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swatch Posted July 17, 2024 Share #219 Posted July 17, 2024 On 7/16/2024 at 11:08 AM, Sohail said: Optical or digital distortion? Hi Sohail, optical distortion is a challenge to lens designer. I appreciate Elmarit-M 28mm asph with very very low in optical distortion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohail Posted July 17, 2024 Share #220 Posted July 17, 2024 1 hour ago, swatch said: Hi Sohail, optical distortion is a challenge to lens designer. I appreciate Elmarit-M 28mm asph with very very low in optical distortion. Yes, the wider of course you go the more digital correction for optical distortion will be needed. Which is why, I think we can surmise the 21 APO will necessitate more digital correction than the 28 APO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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