Anthony MD Posted November 21, 2023 Share #161  Posted November 21, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 9/13/2023 at 2:17 AM, hansvons said: Exactly what I expected, if I’d owned one. Unnecessary investment. Try the M-D 262…! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Anthony MD Posted November 21, 2023 Share #162  Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) On 9/13/2023 at 1:58 AM, 250swb said: I think I've used my M10 twice this year, and apart from using my Z7 for film scanning I've used it two or three times 'in the wild'. Not much to report, disappointed each time, didn't feel connected to my subject or the camera. I'm having some fun with a digital P&S camera I converted to infrared but it can slip into a pocket and I either remember its there or I don't, ambivalent is the word. Otherwise it's still film all the way! You need an M-D 262 to change your mind…! Edited November 21, 2023 by Anthony MD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansvons Posted November 21, 2023 Share #163 Â Posted November 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Anthony MD said: Try the M-D 262. Care to elaborate? Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansvons Posted November 21, 2023 Share #164  Posted November 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Anthony MD said: I can shoot all day for free…! Just checked what the M-D 262 sells. Over 6k. How many rolls of film are that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony MD Posted November 21, 2023 Share #165  Posted November 21, 2023 1 minute ago, hansvons said: Care to elaborate? Thanks! It costs me over $100 to process optical prints, (4x6) with premium scans, flash drive, 35mm Ektar 100 and shipping combined…! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony MD Posted November 21, 2023 Share #166  Posted November 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, hansvons said: Just checked what the M-D 262 sells. Over 6k. How many rolls of film are that? 50 rolls processed total $100. 50 x $100 = $5,000…! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony MD Posted November 21, 2023 Share #167  Posted November 21, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) Don’t get me wrong. I like the look of film but love the free images of digital even more…! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Prime Posted November 21, 2023 Share #168  Posted November 21, 2023 3 hours ago, Anthony MD said: Try a Leica M-D 262, it will change your mind about digital…! I thought these were hard to find cameras now ? - not really the answer then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony MD Posted November 21, 2023 Share #169  Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Mr.Prime said: I thought these were hard to find cameras now ? - not really the answer then. There’re out there still! I was very fortunate to find one for sale…! Edited November 21, 2023 by Anthony MD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsch Posted November 21, 2023 Share #170 Â Posted November 21, 2023 https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/802820010-USE/leica_10945_m_d_typ_262_digital.html/specs $4,495.95 Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony MD Posted November 21, 2023 Share #171  Posted November 21, 2023 26 minutes ago, Datsch said: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/802820010-USE/leica_10945_m_d_typ_262_digital.html/specs $4,495.95  You have to act fast for this model…! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/381977-any-film-shooters-getting-the-itch-to-shoot-digital/?do=findComment&comment=4917446'>More sharing options...
Datsch Posted November 21, 2023 Share #172  Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Anthony MD said: You have to act fast for this model…!  I think that's the link for a brand new one, which B&H still list, so yeah that's unavailable.(It's been discontinued for years) But the secondhand one I linked to at https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/802820010-USE/leica_10945_m_d_typ_262_digital.html seems to be still there as I can put it in my basket, complete with options to prepay UK VAT tax and import duties if I were to be crazy enough to want to bring it across the pond ... These do go quick though... 🙂 Edited November 21, 2023 by Datsch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony MD Posted November 21, 2023 Share #173  Posted November 21, 2023 13 minutes ago, Datsch said: I think that's the link for a brand new one, which B&H still list, so yeah that's unavailable.(It's been discontinued for years) But the secondhand one I linked to at https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/802820010-USE/leica_10945_m_d_typ_262_digital.html seems to be still there as I can put it in my basket, complete with options to prepay UK VAT tax and import duties if I were to be crazy enough to want to bring it across the pond ... These do go quick though... 🙂 Good luck…! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/381977-any-film-shooters-getting-the-itch-to-shoot-digital/?do=findComment&comment=4917522'>More sharing options...
Mr.Prime Posted November 21, 2023 Share #174 Â Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) It certainly is closer to what I'd be interested in - I think I was looking for an M10D once thinking it would have a longer service life. My M3, M4 are decades old but still serviceable, I'm sure a discontinued digital camera is going to become a brick one day and should be priced accordingly (which they are not). A new camera would presumably have a longer service life but the M11 is an example of too much camera for me as it exceeds much of the technical performance of 35mm film and simply offers more than I need - heck, to my eyes it's capable of replacing MF film in cases where resolution is the priority. The original M was a reliable field-proven camera with few airs and graces, a tool which you could count on. To get the itch to shoot digital I'd want a digital camera that is closer to what I feel is the spirit of the M in simplicity and robustness and is readily available and serviceable without the cost of excess performance. Edited November 21, 2023 by Mr.Prime Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted November 21, 2023 Share #175  Posted November 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, Mr.Prime said: ...a tool which you could count on. To get the itch to shoot digital I'd want a digital camera that is closer to what I feel is the spirit of the M in simplicity and robustness For some of us M-D 262 is just that tool, with some "acceptable flaws", but these flaws are NOT acceptable for many. Individual thinkings like repair, price, etc. are not debatable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Prime Posted November 21, 2023 Share #176 Â Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) In that case, I'd be interested to try an M-D 262 but I don't know how that could happen. hmmm....If I'm honest with myself, I might not enjoy a camera without a film wind-on lever to cock the shutter as much. It actually could boil down to something that stupid! Edited November 21, 2023 by Mr.Prime Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted November 21, 2023 Share #177  Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Mr.Prime said: I might not enjoy a camera without a film wind-on lever to cock the shutter You are not alone, Leica ... added the false lever * to M10-D to gain some customers. I wonder if it will be the case with M11-D 😇. * not cocking anything Edited November 21, 2023 by a.noctilux Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Prime Posted November 21, 2023 Share #178  Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) Yeah, I saw that false lever, not really in the spirit of things. I'd actually like to see a film M with a digital film insert - that's the look and feel for me. If Toyota can invest in adding manual transmission to an EV (recently in the press) then I'm sure Leica can do a better job of faking it!  Edit: I looked at the reviews posted with the B+H advertisement for the M D 262 and the first one talks about fringing? "-Objects (such as tree branches and fences) exposed against a bright sky can end up with extreme green fringing, which is a pain to correct. Many cameras do this, but it stands out against the otherwise pristine image-quality the M-D produces.  " I know this is mostly lens dependent on most cameras but I'm guessing that the MD 262 did not have the special pixel-microlens design at that time. Edited November 21, 2023 by Mr.Prime Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted November 21, 2023 Share #179 Â Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Mr.Prime said: I'm guessing that the MD 262 did not have the special pixel-microlens design at that time. For me not true. In my use, many lenses are symetrical and nothing smearing in M-D like taking with same lenses on Sony 7R. Â Anyway, so many faults are only visible by using for a while. Believing reviewers can help, but in real use, only the user can tell. Edited November 21, 2023 by a.noctilux Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted November 21, 2023 Share #180  Posted November 21, 2023 seen here, Summaron-M 28mm  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/381977-any-film-shooters-getting-the-itch-to-shoot-digital/?do=findComment&comment=4917655'>More sharing options...
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