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I agree that the Leica lens caps are variable, fiddly and like to wander. Ā Coming from a film background, replacing the lens cap after taking photos is in -grained, along with turning off my camera after each shot (I’ve always liked how closing the film advance lever on Nikons turned the camera off).

The silver lens caps on the 28 Summaron-M and Summitar LTM are the worst. They drop off if you look at them. Ā But the lens cap for the 35 APO Summicrons is one of the better lens caps I have. Ā The ones that click into the outer ring of the lens (50 Summilux APSH, 0.95 Noctilux and 75 Summilux) are fiddly to fit and easily knocked off and the slide on ones for the 21 & 28 Summilux not much better. Ā The black chrome 50 APO Summicron requires removal of the hood it you want to put on the lens cap.

So, for me, the larger lens caps for the 35 APO and the aftermarket one for the Noctilux which slide over the hood actually work best (that’s not saying much). Ā I don’t use filters for lens protection - the hoods do that well enough.

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The 35APO cap seems to be a particularly self detaching model. Part of it is due to it being a quite heavy and very robust cap but the other problem is that the velvet tape on the inside rim packs down very quickly from new, making the lens cap a loose fit on the hood. I have been able to find 10mm wide self adhesive thin felt tape but I would much prefer velvet. Real silk velvet is particularly robust and long lasting. I can buy sheets but not ribbon. I have very unsteady hands now from 30+ years of arthritis and the effects of long covid. Trying to cut a parallel edge 8mm wide tape from a sheet is beyond my scissoring abilities.Ā 

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AnĀ edition of Red Dot Forum Live included a discussion of the tendency of these fancy metal caps to have an effect on the finish of the lens, if the lens is stored with the cap in place. So, between the potential of felt deteriorating, and possibly marring the black lacquer paint of my Thambar-M lens, it seems to be a best practice to store the cap separately, as a collectible item.

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5 hours ago, wlaidlaw said:

The 35APO cap seems to be a particularly self detaching model. Part of it is due to it being a quite heavy and very robust cap but the other problem is that the velvet tape on the inside rim packs down very quickly from new, making the lens cap a loose fit on the hood. I have been able to find 10mm wide self adhesive thin felt tape but I would much prefer velvet. Real silk velvet is particularly robust and long lasting. I can buy sheets but not ribbon. I have very unsteady hands now from 30+ years of arthritis and the effects of long covid. Trying to cut a parallel edge 8mm wide tape from a sheet is beyond my scissoring abilities.Ā 

Wilson

Get a small paper guillotine or similar.

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3 hours ago, DrM said:

Well, the 35lux hood fits the 35Apo…

As I did not like it on my 35 ASPH Summilux (replaced with a Contax Titanium GG1 hood and cap), I am unlikely to like it on my 35 APO. The originally supplied hood had its own self detaching squigy plastic lens cap and the alternative (shared with the 28 ASPH Summicron) was far too big and clunky.Ā 

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On 1/8/2024 at 11:23 AM, RMF said:

Yes, ideally we need Otect to manufacture one for us. Ā https://otect.co

These are all great suggestions. Ā However, since posting this, I picked up the Q3. Ā The Q3 has a better designed lens cap. Ā It's so well designed, you can hold up the camera by the lens cap. Ā Why Leica can't create a new cap for the most coveted, nearly the most expensive lens in their lineup and send them to all registered owners. Ā I ended buying a third party cap. I'll have to pay for a new cap in the event I sell the lens one day.

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6 minutes ago, tedwill said:

These are all great suggestions. Ā However, since posting this, I picked up the Q3. Ā The Q3 has a better designed lens cap. Ā It's so well designed, you can hold up the camera by the lens cap. Ā Why Leica can't create a new cap for the most coveted, nearly the most expensive lens in their lineup and send them to all registered owners. Ā I ended buying a third party cap. I'll have to pay for a new cap in the event I sell the lens one day.

The Q3 cap is almost too good. When new an arthritic weakling like me, struggled to get it off but much better than self detaching. Oddly the 50 APO cap which I use on my Chrome Summicron V Special Edition, fits very well.Ā 

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7 hours ago, wlaidlaw said:

As I did not like it on my 35 ASPH Summilux (replaced with a Contax Titanium GG1 hood and cap)...

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4 hours ago, mirekti said:

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Yes exactly. I still had some spares from some years of using a Contax G2 Camera. When Contax packed up, us beta testers were allowed to buy some of the remaining stock of Contax stuff from Contax UK at silly knock down prices. From memory the hoods were £1 each and the caps the same. I also bought a new 35/2 Planar G for £30. 

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On 7/16/2023 at 9:47 AM, tedwill said:

By the way, I want to thank you again. I decided to go with this option and I ordered the lens hood for the 35 summilux and the lens cap. I don't understand why they put so much work in designing a perfect lens but the lens cap, and the lens hood for the 35 APO don't really work together. Ā In fact, the factory lens cap for the 35 APO started taking the paint off the lens hood. Ā I will put them aside in case one day I sell the 35 APO. Ā Another solution I found for the 35 APO, in the event of rainy weather is a temporary rubber cover -Ā https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MVK33ZT?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details.Ā 

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I am testing these KURVD lens 'condoms' to see if they off-gas like most all rubber/plastic components. They are great for travel so I would like to keep them on my lenses - but only if they do not off-gas! Some gassing from polymer products have proved impossible to remove from the valuable objects they 'protect' (see the big issue with coin holders).

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2 hours ago, coupdefoudre said:

I am testing these KURVD lens 'condoms' to see if they off-gas like most all rubber/plastic components. They are great for travel so I would like to keep them on my lenses - but only if they do not off-gas! Some gassing from polymer products have proved impossible to remove from the valuable objects they 'protect' (see the big issue with coin holders).

It is particularly noticeably on modern vehicles where the off-gassing of plastic components inside the cabin then re-condenses on the inside of the cabin glass, forming an almost irremovable film. I have found that the only product that removes it is cellulose thinners but you have to be extremely careful not to let that drip on anything inside the car or it will mark.

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I took IMAGEPOWER’s advise and purchased a lens hood for 28Summicron and its original cap to use with my 35APO. It is perfect… I put the original cap of the 35APO aside as a collectible 😊

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On 1/9/2024 at 5:51 PM, DrM said:

Well, the 35lux hood fits the 35Apo…

Add - next to the 35Lux-F, also the 24 Elmar-m. What bugs me is that the plastic caps are loose on one of my sunshades. So loose it will be lost in a minute. [I most often have the camera under a jacquet.] And I read that also another lens has the same E46 internal filter thread/outside shade thread.

So yes, it is a quite large market for a replacement suncap. Or I’ll use a cheapo screw on E46 sun hood where I can add a cheapo pinch-cap inside. Vignetting or not, that is no question for me . .Ā 

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Am 23.6.2023 um 09:41 schrieb IMAGEPOWER:

Actually, instead of a 46mm lens cap I would recommend a lens cap 39mm, which is the filter thread of the APO 35mm...;-)

As I have got the same problem with the original Leica lens cap (falling off from the original lens hood as soon as I take the camera out of the bag) I figured out a different solution.

I use the lens hood 12471Ā of the Summicron-M 28/2 or the hood 12465 of theĀ Summilux-M 35/1.4 (and Super-Elmar 21/3.4 respectively)Ā with its original capĀ 14212

This is more costly, but I can still use a lens hood which I find essential on Leica M lenses (tendency to flare). And if you put the price of the APO Summicron-M 35/2 into perspective...

The attached photos show the lens hood 12471 of the Summicron-M 28/2 on the first 2 pictures, the 12465 of the 35/1,4 in silver on the 3rd picture.

I tested both the lens hoods of the 28/2 and the 35/1,4 on the APO-Summicron 35/2, none of them show any vignetting, and they are still very effective, however the original lens hood is a tad more effective due to its different design.

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Sorry to be late to the game… and to highjack the thread…. Ā I had a question to that: does your statement mean, that you can use the lens hood of the Apo in the 35 Lux FLE? Looking for a smaller lens hood for my FLE… so the hood of the Apo can be used on other lenses?Ā 

thanks a lot for your help!Ā 
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Andreas

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I think the supplied hood of the 35 APO-M is limited to that lens. Even since Leica started to supply hoods with female threads, screwing onto the outside of a lens, with the WATE, I think each lens hood has been unique.Ā 

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