Leica M11 lens flare

[pierre_hotpixel]

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Hi people

I shoot concerts, I used to have a few old lenses that were flaring a fair bit, which I like a lot in some circumstances. That was with a Leica M9 Monochrom

Now few years later I'm back to Leica world with a M11 mono. I'm looking for lenses that DO flare, specially 35 or 50mm, can anyone recommend a few flarers that would be useful on a M11 sensor?

thanks

P

[DenverSteve]

The sensor merely records what the lens sends it.  If the lens flares, and that's what you want, any lens that is prone to flare will flare just as well on the M11 - or any camera. 

[FlashGordonPhotography]

Many Mandler era lenses will do what you want. I use the MATE on my M11M a lot. You can make it flare nicely, especially at 28 and 35mm. It’s flare and lack of CA is ugly on the colour M11 though.

Also the Zeus’s 50mm 1.5 or the SC series of Voightlander lenses (which specifically only have single coatings) might be worth a look.

Gordon

[Jeff S]

36 minutes ago, DenverSteve said:

The sensor merely records what the lens sends it.  If the lens flares, and that's what you want, any lens that is prone to flare will flare just as well on the M11 - or any camera. 

But cameras can also induce flare as incoming light reflects off the internal camera chamber.  And since the M11 camera chamber is designed differently due to the lack of the former metering cell at the chamber floor, the overall resultant flare may have different characteristics, even with the same lens, as on an M10 body, for instance. But, yes, lenses have their own flare tendencies.  

Jeff

[rustyrus]

What focal length???

35mm:

Steel Rim Re-issue

If out of budget, The Voigtlander 35 1.4 II Nokton Classic. Very similar to the Steel Rim reissue but much cheaper. Both have amazing flair.

 

Shot below on the Leica 35 Steel Rim Re-issue with Cinestill 800. This is after Dam dropped 71

 

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4 hours ago, DenverSteve said:

The sensor merely records what the lens sends it.  If the lens flares, and that's what you want, any lens that is prone to flare will flare just as well on the M11 - or any camera. 

really?

my 90mm APO summicron ASPH, does NOT flare easily on M5/SL/Sl2s or GFX, but flares like Crazy [love those flares] on my Infrared-Converted-sensor Canon EOS-RP

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5 hours ago, pierre_hotpixel said:

I'm looking for lenses that DO flare, specially 35 or 50mm, can anyone recommend a few flarers

you mean only leica lenses or other vintage lenses that flare beautifully but need an LTM >M adapter?

[pierre_hotpixel]

I mean any lens really.. 

[frame-it]

1 minute ago, pierre_hotpixel said:

I mean any lens really.. 

the LTM world is huge, and a lot of those vintage lenses have beautiful flares

https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/329530-sources-of-info-on-non-leica-screw-mount-lenses/

[jaapv]

5 hours ago, frame-it said:

really?

my 90mm APO summicron ASPH, does NOT flare easily on M5/SL/Sl2s or GFX, but flares like Crazy [love those flares] on my Infrared-Converted-sensor Canon EOS-RP

That is something else. Different light frequencies will flare differently. In one case you are recording IR light, which flares, in the other case visible light which is better controlled, as per your report. 

[lct]

Among my own lenses 

11 hours ago, pierre_hotpixel said:

I'm looking for lenses that DO flare, specially 35 or 50mm, can anyone recommend a few flarers that would be useful on a M11 sensor?

The M11 won't change anything but among 35mm and 50mm lenses, my following ones can be considered prone to flare: Summilux 35/1.4 v2, Nokton 35/1.4 SC v1, Nokton 35/1.4 SC v2 (less so than v1), Summicron 50/2 v4 & v5 (when strong light sources are outside the frame), the bigger flarer being the Nokton 35/1.4 SC v1.

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44 minutes ago, jaapv said:

That is something else. Different light frequencies will flare differently. In one case you are recording IR light, which flares, in the other case visible light which is better controlled, as per your report. 

didnt think of that, i thought i was because the sensor cover glass has been modified on the IR camera..

[pierre_hotpixel]

40 minutes ago, lct said:

Among my own lenses 

The M11 won't change anything but among 35mm and 50mm lenses, my following ones can be considered prone to flare: Summilux 35/1.4 v2, Nokton 35/1.4 SC v1, Nokton 35/1.4 SC v2 (less so than v1), Summicron 50/2 v4 & v5 (when strong light sources are outside the frame), the bigger flarer being the Nokton 35/1.4 SC v1.

Excellent - thank you! 

[pgk]

12 hours ago, pierre_hotpixel said:

I'm looking for lenses that DO flare, specially 35 or 50mm .....

I assume that you do not mean veiling flare but want lenses with characteristic flare? As has been stated the original 35mm Summilux will do this as will many earlier, fast lenses. I think that you might look here too: https://www.rangefinderforum.com/threads/w-nw-the-beauty-of-lens-flare.156215/ as there are many examples from various lenses.

[pierre_hotpixel]

2 minutes ago, pgk said:

I assume that you do not mean veiling flare but want lenses with characteristic flare? As has been stated the original 35mm Summilux will do this as will many earlier, fast lenses. I think that you might look here too: https://www.rangefinderforum.com/threads/w-nw-the-beauty-of-lens-flare.156215/ as there are many examples from various lenses.

Yes, exactly. Thanks for the link

[Photoworks]

The lens that flares the most is Summicron 50 all the older versions without the metal fixed hood like v4.

I got flare sometimes with 90mm Aro Summicron when I was shooting with a large light window, but not predictable.

The Summaron 28 5.6 has an old design and it flares quite a bit.

and the Noctor Single coded SC 35mm

[CDodkin]

Summilux-M 35mm f/1.4 ASPH 

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Example of 50mm Summicron (serial no: 3877479 from 1999). Taken on the Washington DC Metro

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