Will the Q3 bring them back?

[charlesphoto99]

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Ultimately, it sounds like many would like an interchangeable lens Q. That way you could even forego speed for something like a 28/50 f3.4 Bi-Elmar. 

[Ferd]

 Q50mm would have at least 50-150mm range so why not, actually so good idea that maybe Leica is in the makings of  technical revolution as the number of pixels increases close to 100 MB and as lens technology further develops - fixed lens cameras are once again coming a viable option to SLRs.

Leica fixed lens Q series cameras are more compelling for me than any SLR on the market today.

So at least I would not be against 50mm Q. At the moment I don’t have any use for Q50mm but it might be practical in some cases to haveQ28 +Q50 combo over for example M11 + 2 lenses.

[LocalHero1953]

51 minutes ago, charlesphoto99 said:

Ultimately, it sounds like many would like an interchangeable lens Q. That way you could even forego speed for something like a 28/50 f3.4 Bi-Elmar. 

With every lens having an integrated leaf shutter, optical image stabilisation, autofocus, macro mode and f/1.7, while being no bigger than the current lens?

That would be nice!

[charlesphoto99]

26 minutes ago, LocalHero1953 said:

With every lens having an integrated leaf shutter, optical image stabilisation, autofocus, macro mode and f/1.7, while being no bigger than the current lens?

That would be nice!

Seriously. And what with high iso performance being what it is these days, Leica could also make some more compact but highly performing lenses such as a 21/3.4, 35/2.8, 90/4, even a compact 135/5.6 would be amazing. Like a mini Mamiya 7. Or grown up CL. 

[jaapv]

2 hours ago, Olaf_ZG said:

I don’t get it why so many are against a 50mm version… it would be great. Not to replace the 28, but next to it.

 

Nobody is against. Just pointing out that it would be a radical departure from the basic concept of the camera. 

[jaapv]

1 hour ago, Ferd said:

 Q50mm would have at least 50-150mm range so why not, actually so good idea that maybe Leica is in the makings of  technical revolution as the number of pixels increases close to 100 MB and as lens technology further develops - fixed lens cameras are once again coming a viable option to SLRs.

Leica fixed lens Q series cameras are more compelling for me than any SLR on the market today.

So at least I would not be against 50mm Q. At the moment I don’t have any use for Q50mm but it might be practical in some cases to haveQ28 +Q50 combo over for example M11 + 2 lenses.

That would make the logical tipping point 70 mm, not 50, and necessitate the user to carry two cameras. 

[LocalHero1953]

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11 minutes ago, charlesphoto99 said:

Seriously. And what with high iso performance being what it is these days, Leica could also make some more compact but highly performing lenses such as a 21/3.4, 35/2.8, 90/4, even a compact 135/5.6 would be amazing. Like a mini Mamiya 7. Or grown up CL. 

You list one compromise that I would regret: a wide aperture, not for low light (as you say, high ISO performance is good), but for depth of field control.

I meant what I wrote: it would be nice if it happened, but I was just pointing out that it is not the same as putting a compact M lens on a Q body. 

[TheEyesHaveIt]

I’m on two waitlists but getting cold feet now. I have the M11 and do enjoy the focal length flexibility it offers. I would only be gaining autofocus and weather resistance with the Q3 - not insignificant factors mind you. But then I feel that I should practice RF focusing more to negate the value of AF (or much of it). And photographers have been using M cameras in lots of conditions across history so maybe I shouldn’t baby mine so much. The price of the Q3 could get me 1-2 extra lenses…

 

Or maybe a used Q2 is the way to go now. Should’ve never sold mine!

Edited May 26, 2023 by TheEyesHaveIt

[sebben]

Wish the Ricoh and the Fuji x100 went full frame… 

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On 5/25/2023 at 3:45 PM, Simone_DF said:

Yeah. But if you replace the word "Q3" with "dildo", you'll see how your statement will still make sense and is wrong at the same time. 

People are not "the problem", people have different requirements / expectations / use cases and that's fine. Shoehorning them into one size fits all doesn't really work.

I understand your point and won't debate that. However, sometimes photographers are the worst when it comes to expecting their gear to cater to them, rather than learn it's operation (and quirks) to make magic with it. If you can make magic with a Q3, you can do it with a Q. Bottom line, upgrade when it's important to you, and it benefits you. Also, when you can afford it. 

[jaapv]

6 hours ago, charlesphoto99 said:

Ultimately, it sounds like many would like an interchangeable lens Q. That way you could even forego speed for something like a 28/50 f3.4 Bi-Elmar. 

Err.. Isn't that a Leica M? or even a CL? 

[Driften]

16 hours ago, jaapv said:

A bit hard to use as an universal camera without a wideangle option, though.

 

That's what I came to love with the Q2. With the Q I wasn't happy with just a 28mm lens, but later I bought the Q2 and came to love having the 28mm with crops when I need them. The only thing that could be better for me was adding a tilt screen and phase detect Autofocus.... So I just sold my Q2 and pre-ordered the Q3...

[charlesphoto99]

11 hours ago, jaapv said:

Err.. Isn't that a Leica M? or even a CL? 

Nope, not imo. Full frame vs aps-c, af vs full manual focus, etc etc. If the Q was like an M or CL then why haven’t people just bought those instead? Because it isn’t. 

[charlesphoto99]

That said, Leica would probably see an interchangeable Q cannibalizing SL sales, primarily. 

[Tobers]

The good old 50mm Q debate never gets old.

My tuppence-worth is that a 75mm Q would be much better than a 50mm Q. Rationale is that the Q3 at 50mm is rather exceptional, so no need to replicate that focal length. A 75mm Q would give you huge telephoto range, and would make a really good 2-body setup. A bit like the classic 24-70 and 70-200 2-lens setup typical in DSLR world.

[jaapv]

1 hour ago, charlesphoto99 said:

Nope, not imo. Full frame vs aps-c, af vs full manual focus, etc etc. If the Q was like an M or CL then why haven’t people just bought those instead? Because it isn’t. 

I have learned to disregard sensor size and judge image quality instead. AF can be useful, but I do not really need it.
Actually I never bought a Q because I have M cameras and a CL. It makes no sense for me. But then, maybe I am not people  

[Simone_DF]

3 hours ago, charlesphoto99 said:

That said, Leica would probably see an interchangeable Q cannibalizing SL sales, primarily. 

And yet many people are not buying the SL because of size and weight. Maybe a SL3 in current size and a lighter SL3-S sized like a S5II could be the right compromise 

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On 5/26/2023 at 6:48 AM, Simone_DF said:

I have both! Fun cameras, especially the Trip 35. I reskinned mine in white. 🙂

I'd prefer 50mm, but I'd take 40 over 28mm any day. Luckily Ricoh saw the light and added an extra SKU besides the GRIII, so people have a choice. And many are buying both.

My Trip 35 is hot pink.

Maybe because the Trip 35 was the first camera I bought (vs borrowed) and I ran a lot of film through it before I could afford a 'better' camera, I am drawn to 40mm (or its equivalent in other formats).

28mm is wider than I'd have if I were designing the Q just for me, but for wider appeal, 28mm makes sense. With 60Mp available, cropping to 50mm still has enough resolution. The 75mm and 90mm crops are less useful.

Disclaimer: I have purchased the Q3, so my judgement is probably questionable within this thread.

 

 

[SrMi]

On 5/27/2023 at 1:05 AM, sebben said:

Wish the Ricoh and the Fuji x100 went full frame… 

Why? The DR benefit would be small, and the size and weight benefit would likely be lost. I wish Leica would still make an APS-C camera.

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On 5/25/2023 at 12:37 PM, roma said:

Leica should seriously consider standardizing their batteries across all of their systems. I could see adding a Q to my Ms, but traveling with different batteries and chargers makes it a much harder decision. 

Battery life if Q3 and M11 should be enough for a whole day of shooting. 
You can charge both with USB-C so it is not a problem anymore to have different type of batteries.