meerec Posted January 4, 2017 Share #221 Posted January 4, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) That's obvious due to the size and weight of the bloody thing.......... when I look at the leicacS70 files which is smaller than the SL 50mm but if the same FL the bouquet is far superior on the S lens Neil, my cron-50-M's bouquet is fantastic, I think ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 4, 2017 Posted January 4, 2017 Hi meerec, Take a look here Image thread for the Leica Summilux-SL 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted January 4, 2017 Share #222 Posted January 4, 2017 I think that they were going to speed up the AF after Photokina, before the lens shipped, so we must presume that they have done so. The lens comes with a sticker saying that you should use the latest firmware and the lens was released on the day that the firmware shipped.firmwear can't cure the ugliness Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meerec Posted January 4, 2017 Share #223 Posted January 4, 2017 I think that they were going to speed up the AF after Photokina, before the lens shipped, so we must presume that they have done so. The lens comes with a sticker saying that you should use the latest firmware and the lens was released on the day that the firmware shipped. Yes, jrp, I used the SL-50 in the Leica Store Sydney before the firmware upgrade and it was very slow, and general thinking then was it's because of the firmware. But magic didn't happen then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meerec Posted January 4, 2017 Share #224 Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) firmwear can't cure the ugliness Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk As I just said, Neil — no magic was detected later lol But good wear can disguise ugliness, ask your better part hahaha Edited January 4, 2017 by meerec Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted January 4, 2017 Share #225 Posted January 4, 2017 Bouquet is in the eye of the beholder, but it also tends to be better (in any lens) a stop or two down, and highly dependent on camera-subject and subject-background distances (obv.). For those looking for portrait images: http://jarlehagen.no/proof-of-performance-images 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meerec Posted January 4, 2017 Share #226 Posted January 4, 2017 Bouquet is in the eye of the beholder, but it also tends to be better (in any lens) a stop or two down, and highly dependent on camera-subject and subject-background distances (obv.). For those looking for portrait images: http://jarlehagen.no/proof-of-performance-images These images were already highly critiqued and criticised on the net for being badly focussed. Besides, I think, if you give me a strobe I can make any image / portrait look good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anickpick Posted January 4, 2017 Share #227 Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Holy Moly. If this guy does not see that focus is off in all of his pictures, he could have saved himself a lot of money. Any 50mm M lens of the last century would do the job for him just fine. He should have used a camera with IBIS. Although, it seems he used a tripod. He needs a tripod with IS. I just realised that Leica uses these photos on their official website... and no, not for advertising the Sofort. Edited January 4, 2017 by anickpick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted January 4, 2017 Share #228 Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) I think that they were going to speed up the AF after Photokina, before the lens shipped, so we must presume that they have done so. The lens comes with a sticker saying that you should use the latest firmware and the lens was released on the day that the firmware shipped. It's slower to focus than the zooms but totally acceptable and it doesn't hunt even in low light when there is contrast. Rarely, in low light situations it starts hunting even when there is enough contrast. Then one needs to point it to a target that is easy to focus on and it starts to lock on quickly again to everything one points it at. That's a bit frustating but happens rarely and in very low light environments. I've taken plenty of pictures at night and in very dark situations and it finds finds the target fast enough and locks on acurrately. Very pleasant to use. Edited January 4, 2017 by Chaemono Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 4, 2017 Share #229 Posted January 4, 2017 Fully true. The 90-280 is superb and fast. No they will not. Talked to the Leica store manager, that's what it is. It's a slow ugly beast. And how would the Leica store manager have any knowledge of this? From experience, I know more than the average Leica store manager...and thats not saying much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donzo98 Posted January 4, 2017 Share #230 Posted January 4, 2017 I'm sure you guys are all aware... but coming from Nikon... the 24-70 VR and new 70-200 VR are blazing fast when it comes to AF. All the 1.4 primes... even the newest 105 are much slower to focus. I think that's just the way the 1.4 primes are... including Leica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted January 4, 2017 Share #231 Posted January 4, 2017 My 1.4 g lens is super fast on the D5 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted January 4, 2017 Share #232 Posted January 4, 2017 I am a bit disappointed. At the moment I am trying to make the SL "work for me". I enjoy the range of the 24-90 but the 2.8-4.0 f-stop drives ISO higher than I like in lower light. I do use manula M lenses for those lower light situations, but thats not for what I bought the SL. Now comes the 50/1.4SL, I do like the images I saw posted quite a bit, but then its big, heavy, very expensive for a standard lens, and now I read also slow to focus. WHat about focus accurancy, do you use 1 point or face detection with the 50? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD_50 Posted January 4, 2017 Share #233 Posted January 4, 2017 Many are asking for an opinion on focus speed and only accepting the ones they choose. We have people saying the 50SL is fine, others say it's slow. The consensus is the 50 is slower than the zooms, which is expected. It's the same with Nikon, where the trilogy lenses (14-24, 24-70, and 70-200) are quite a bit faster than many of the shorter primes. That said I didn't have any issues with focus speed with what I shot the shorter primes for. For high speed stuff the zooms were good, as were the 200f2, 300f2.8, etc. Go test it out before buying, or buy and return if it doesn't meet your needs. Reading the same subjective analysis of the focus speed won't make a difference if you have your own needs that differ from those posting here. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted January 4, 2017 Share #234 Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) The zoom is actually quite zippy ....... even at low light levels...... 95+% of the time...... with single point AF. It is however more intolerant of low contrast subject matter than the other zooms ...... with a tendency to hunt or just sulk and give up with flat featureless surfaces, especially close up, and I suspect this is a result of it using AF wide open at 1.4 and with a much narrower DOF. Shifting to 'Field' focussing substantially increases the 'lock' rate but is a little bit slower. 'Zone' ditto ...... but I have never seen the point of this as it never chooses what you want ..... None of this comes as a surprise ....... and with single point AF you soon automatically just use the nearest contrasty thing that you know will lock focus and work around the potential problem situations. It is plenty fast enough for most that you will encounter. As for those who have 'trialled' the lens ...... this is usually in camera shops with crappy lighting and not a lot of suitable subject matter to try on ...... particularly in the typical black and red gloomy Leica boutique with staff all done out in black, so if there ever was a situation more unsuited for testing AF lenses I have yet to find it. Leica Mayfair is even worse as it is in a narrow glorified alley with b*ugger all outside you can photograph apart from bins (if you are lucky)...... or the occasional Bentley (parked illegally) when one of the Peers of the Realm comes to collect his repaired Leica ....... and the staff ignore the common unwashed proles like myself ...... Edited January 4, 2017 by thighslapper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted January 4, 2017 Share #235 Posted January 4, 2017 My 1.4 g lens is super fast on the D5 Yes, but it's not a great lens wide open. The bokeh of the 58m f1.4 is very particular, but is also not great wide open (compared with the Leica lenses or, I assume the likes of the Sigma Art or other modern, bulky, f1.4s). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted January 4, 2017 Share #236 Posted January 4, 2017 It's a fantastic lens wide open......... in the right hands[emoji41][emoji3][emoji41][emoji3][emoji41][emoji3] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eprom Posted January 4, 2017 Share #237 Posted January 4, 2017 I owned the Nikkor 24, 35 and 58 all 1.4 lenses. They where all ok or good from 2.2 up but below very soft - to say it in nice words. It makes no sense buying expensive 1.4 lenses when you have to close aperture to get proper iq. So I sold all my Nikon gear and switched to SL - I can´t wait to get my SL Lux. In addition to the SL I bought the Q as a walk around camera and I´m very impressed what that lens delivers at 1.7! Hey Nikon, Canon .... it´s possible to build lenses that can be used wide open. Best, Peter__ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted January 4, 2017 Share #238 Posted January 4, 2017 I'll repeat what I said above....... it all depends if you know what your doing....... obviously not [emoji30] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donzo98 Posted January 4, 2017 Share #239 Posted January 4, 2017 My 1.4 g lens is super fast on the D5 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Might be super fast on the D5... but still slower than the 24-70 or 70-200. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted January 4, 2017 Share #240 Posted January 4, 2017 It that I've noticed. There again I really don't pay attention to that shit....... I look at the pictures 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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