Jon Warwick Posted May 12, 2023 Share #181 Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 hours ago, Alan Friedman said: Machine Leica M11M + CV Apo-Lanthar 50. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I’m selling my M10M with intention of getting the M11M to pair with the same APO Lanthar 50mm lens (and its 35mm sibling). Even if Leica keeps ramping up the price of the M bodies, at least we have a growing pool of exceptionally good CV lenses that can balance the price of the overall “kit” with little image quality compromise IMHO. I used to own an M 50 APO, and don’t miss it one bit after using my 50 Lanthar. Edited May 12, 2023 by Jon Warwick 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pgh Posted May 12, 2023 Share #182 Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) On 5/1/2023 at 5:40 PM, HansiMustermann said: Many - perhaps most - of these pictures shown here are (from my point of view) pictures without colors. But no black and white. On 5/7/2023 at 4:19 PM, HansiMustermann said: Content. LOL. Most pretentious, narrow minded comment I've seen on this forum, and that's saying something. And I don't even personally enjoy the pics in these threads almost as a rule. Edited May 12, 2023 by pgh 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Friedman Posted May 13, 2023 Share #183 Posted May 13, 2023 20 hours ago, Jon Warwick said: I’m selling my M10M with intention of getting the M11M to pair with the same APO Lanthar 50mm lens (and its 35mm sibling). Even if Leica keeps ramping up the price of the M bodies, at least we have a growing pool of exceptionally good CV lenses that can balance the price of the overall “kit” with little image quality compromise IMHO. I used to own an M 50 APO, and don’t miss it one bit after using my 50 Lanthar. I think you will be happy with them on the M11M. I used both with pleasure on the Sigma fp-L. They are very well suited for a 60mp sensor. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Friedman Posted May 13, 2023 Share #184 Posted May 13, 2023 (edited) M11M + CV apo-lanthar 50 + 720nm IR pass filter Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited May 13, 2023 by Alan Friedman 11 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375512-leica-m11-monochrom-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4771211'>More sharing options...
Ken Abrahams Posted May 16, 2023 Share #185 Posted May 16, 2023 Mostly the images here seem to be lacking mid tone contrast and the whites are not so white? Except for motor bike and car shots and a couple of other images. It's not a criticism of the camera because I know it can take some time to produce a really good workflow with these Monochrom's. I don't know what the DNG's look like for the M11M however coming from the M Monochrom flat files and then the M10M contrasty files where does the M11M stand? I really believe that one needs to use Photoshop in processing these Mono files and to work the contrasts over various layers pushing the darks/whites/brightness to the limits where needed to bring life to the images. These cameras always test ones skills and to change the way things were done in the past. That's the challenge of the Monochrom's and of course achieving wonderful black and white images. Best Ken 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 16, 2023 Share #186 Posted May 16, 2023 7 hours ago, Ken Abrahams said: Mostly the images here seem to be lacking mid tone contrast and the whites are not so white? Except for motor bike and car shots and a couple of other images. It's not a criticism of the camera because I know it can take some time to produce a really good workflow with these Monochrom's. I don't know what the DNG's look like for the M11M however coming from the M Monochrom flat files and then the M10M contrasty files where does the M11M stand? I really believe that one needs to use Photoshop in processing these Mono files and to work the contrasts over various layers pushing the darks/whites/brightness to the limits where needed to bring life to the images. These cameras always test ones skills and to change the way things were done in the past. That's the challenge of the Monochrom's and of course achieving wonderful black and white images. Best Ken OOC tonal differences between these cameras are in large part due to the default tone curve. I use the MM and M10M and have no problem adjusting the curve as desired, setting black/white points, boosting mid tones, etc, using LR; Photoshop not required. One can easily create a different default tone curve upon import and/or create presets, if desired, for more efficient workflows, but of course each person will develop his/her own approach. Or not…many seem unaware of the potential rendering options and techniques. I let each pic determine my PP and print rendering goals, regardless of camera used. Like most all aspects of photography, results are more about judgment and decision making than the hardware or software. Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alainD Posted May 16, 2023 Share #187 Posted May 16, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) 8 hours ago, Ken Abrahams said: Mostly the images here seem to be lacking mid tone contrast and the whites are not so white? Except for motor bike and car shots and a couple of other images. It's not a criticism of the camera because I know it can take some time to produce a really good workflow with these Monochrom's. I don't know what the DNG's look like for the M11M however coming from the M Monochrom flat files and then the M10M contrasty files where does the M11M stand? In my experience, having worked with M9m, M246, M10m, and now M11m, The M11m files are very flat. Very much like the M9m. The simple workflow I had developed for M10m does not work anymore, and I'm experimenting to find something that works... Alain 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alainD Posted May 16, 2023 Share #188 Posted May 16, 2023 (edited) Wrong image...sorry Edited May 16, 2023 by alainD delete image Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alainD Posted May 16, 2023 Share #189 Posted May 16, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375512-leica-m11-monochrom-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4772908'>More sharing options...
Alan Friedman Posted May 16, 2023 Share #190 Posted May 16, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M11M + VM apo-lanthar 35 + orange filter 11 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M11M + VM apo-lanthar 35 + orange filter ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375512-leica-m11-monochrom-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4772993'>More sharing options...
fotografr Posted May 16, 2023 Share #191 Posted May 16, 2023 On 5/9/2023 at 5:06 PM, digitalfx said: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ISO 125 35mm f1.4 This is a truly fantastic portrait. I think it would even be stronger if the bright area to the right of the hat was removed. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Friedman Posted May 16, 2023 Share #192 Posted May 16, 2023 (edited) A full size crop from the image above. The VM apo-lanthar lenses will offer interesting cropping options with the 60mp M11M. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited May 16, 2023 by Alan Friedman 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375512-leica-m11-monochrom-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4773060'>More sharing options...
panuwud Posted May 17, 2023 Share #193 Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) M11M/35mm Summicron f2 ASPH Pramote Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited May 17, 2023 by panuwud 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375512-leica-m11-monochrom-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4773752'>More sharing options...
Alan Friedman Posted May 17, 2023 Share #194 Posted May 17, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! baby leaves M11M + VM apo-lanthar 35 + orange filter 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! baby leaves M11M + VM apo-lanthar 35 + orange filter ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375512-leica-m11-monochrom-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4773935'>More sharing options...
Alan Friedman Posted May 17, 2023 Share #195 Posted May 17, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! gothic Same combination as above. 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! gothic Same combination as above. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375512-leica-m11-monochrom-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4773951'>More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted May 17, 2023 Share #196 Posted May 17, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 12 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375512-leica-m11-monochrom-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4774037'>More sharing options...
Popular Post digitalfx Posted May 17, 2023 Popular Post Share #197 Posted May 17, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 19 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375512-leica-m11-monochrom-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4774095'>More sharing options...
Alan Friedman Posted May 18, 2023 Share #198 Posted May 18, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Baby leaves, same camera/lens through IR filter (720nm) 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Baby leaves, same camera/lens through IR filter (720nm) ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375512-leica-m11-monochrom-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4774223'>More sharing options...
Alan Friedman Posted May 18, 2023 Share #199 Posted May 18, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375512-leica-m11-monochrom-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4774224'>More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 18, 2023 Share #200 Posted May 18, 2023 On 5/16/2023 at 9:42 AM, alainD said: In my experience, having worked with M9m, M246, M10m, and now M11m, The M11m files are very flat. Very much like the M9m. The simple workflow I had developed for M10m does not work anymore, and I'm experimenting to find something that works... Alain Post just above. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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