kinetic Posted May 28, 2024 Share #301 Posted May 28, 2024 Advertisement (gone after registration) The lens is a bit too perfect. I love how it looks, but I miss my black chrome's quirks and flares. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 9 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375297-brand-new-close-focus-summilux-m-50-f14-asph/?do=findComment&comment=5308005'>More sharing options...
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AndrewLT Posted May 29, 2024 Share #302 Posted May 29, 2024 17 hours ago, kinetic said: The lens is a bit too perfect. I love how it looks, but I miss my black chrome's quirks and flares. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 'Too perfect' isn't a problem I normally have .... 😬 Is it mainly "improvement" (as Leica would have it) in flare resistance that causes you to say this? Or some of the other changes in the 2023 version? I'd be interested to hear just how much you feel the flare characteristics have changed (although I realise that that is pretty subjective) and, also, just how much you think resolution away from the centre of the frame has improved (if at all). (And I'd also be most grateful if anyone else can offer any thoughts on the question I posed in my previous post, #300 at the bottom of the previous page (no. 15) of this thread, concerning resolution of the new Summilux across the frame.) Thanks .... Andrew Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinetic Posted May 29, 2024 Share #303 Posted May 29, 2024 2 hours ago, AndrewLT said: 'Too perfect' isn't a problem I normally have .... 😬 Is it mainly "improvement" (as Leica would have it) in flare resistance that causes you to say this? Or some of the other changes in the 2023 version? I'd be interested to hear just how much you feel the flare characteristics have changed (although I realise that that is pretty subjective) and, also, just how much you think resolution away from the centre of the frame has improved (if at all). (And I'd also be most grateful if anyone else can offer any thoughts on the question I posed in my previous post, #300 at the bottom of the previous page (no. 15) of this thread, concerning resolution of the new Summilux across the frame.) Thanks .... Andrew I say it's too perfect with a bit of jest. I was shooting with a friend last weekend and she was using a few older lenses, including the same black chrome 50mm summilux I had before the new FLE2. I realize that the FLE2 "fixes" a lot of the character the black chrome had, so it's a more perfect image. It still has the beautiful blacks, color, and falloff, but it removed some of the imperfections like slightly softer edges (really not noticeable if you zoom in, but as a whole, you can kind of tell). It might be placebo, but my images shot at the same place with the same camera with the same settings with the same composition were just a tad bit lacking in character. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinetic Posted May 29, 2024 Share #304 Posted May 29, 2024 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375297-brand-new-close-focus-summilux-m-50-f14-asph/?do=findComment&comment=5309033'>More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted May 30, 2024 Share #305 Posted May 30, 2024 Interesting, thank you all for posting comparative images. While there are clear improvements in the v2 lens, I’m not really into close focus (I have a 35 APO Summicron for that), I won’t be selling my v1 50 Summilux ASPH, or my 0.95 Noctilux. I love the gentle skin tones with both wide open, and the out of focus treatment is lovely with both (hadn’t noticed ninja stars until I saw the comparison shots). One issue I see a lot is over-use of wide open apertures, where a slightly smaller aperture would be more pleasing. While silky smooth bokeh is lovely, getting the entire subject in focus and a gentle roll-off to out of focus is more important to me. The aperture ring is your friend - use it! The alternatives can be jarring and confusing … 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewLT Posted May 31, 2024 Share #306 Posted May 31, 2024 On 5/29/2024 at 5:43 PM, kinetic said: I say it's too perfect with a bit of jest. I was shooting with a friend last weekend and she was using a few older lenses, including the same black chrome 50mm summilux I had before the new FLE2. I realize that the FLE2 "fixes" a lot of the character the black chrome had, so it's a more perfect image. It still has the beautiful blacks, color, and falloff, but it removed some of the imperfections like slightly softer edges (really not noticeable if you zoom in, but as a whole, you can kind of tell). It might be placebo, but my images shot at the same place with the same camera with the same settings with the same composition were just a tad bit lacking in character. Yes, I realised that that was at least partly tongue in cheek, although I guess there is a valid point, too, about the character of an image. At any rate, I suppose you're talking about the overall effect on an image, not individual, pixel-peeping details. Given that this is an essentially subjective discussion, there obviously isn't a categorically right or wrong answer. As I mentioned in my post a few days ago, I have been indecisive about this for far too long (I also waver about the CV 50mm f/1.2 Nokton) -- perhaps because I ought to be satisfied with the CV f/2.0 APO and v5 Summicron which I already have -- and it's perfectly possible that I will still be trying to decide several years hence .... 😬 (But I'd still be very interested to hear any thoughts about the resolution of the new version versus the original Asph away from the centre of the frame and not just at the edges.) Thanks .... Andrew Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
microview Posted June 1, 2024 Share #307 Posted June 1, 2024 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 4/9/2023 at 8:20 PM, kinetic said: I miss closer focusing from my other cameras, so I think the closer focusing would be the reason why I would switch from my 50mm lux black chrome. Even though the black chrome looks fantastic, it's still pretty heavy on my M11. Less heavy tha I expected _ and I love the red lettering! Wonder if the close focus would offer and resolution improvements. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Jefferson Posted June 2, 2024 Share #308 Posted June 2, 2024 On 5/30/2024 at 12:43 AM, kinetic said: It might be placebo, but my images shot at the same place with the same camera with the same settings with the same composition were just a tad bit lacking in character. I don't own either of the version but two things I can already tell from samples. The new version has rounder bokeh - less outline, less gritty, like melted butter. It seems the bokeh is also heavier, just as saturated and contrasty as the in focus area. Old version tend to desaturate and lighten the out of focus area with more outlines and textures. i think people generally like melting bokeh but I love bokeh that's slightly textured. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Woo Posted June 25, 2024 Share #309 Posted June 25, 2024 On 5/30/2024 at 12:47 AM, kinetic said: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! hi kinetic, is there any ninja star in BC when it is not wide opened? which the old 50mm lux performs really bad through f2.8 to f8. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolan Posted June 25, 2024 Share #310 Posted June 25, 2024 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375297-brand-new-close-focus-summilux-m-50-f14-asph/?do=findComment&comment=5385592'>More sharing options...
robb Posted July 11, 2024 Share #311 Posted July 11, 2024 I’d like to request more portraits be posted especially at closer min focus than .6 m and at f1.4 so I can see the benefits to the ii version vs original asph. Thanks much. Good thread. Robb Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safa Posted July 18, 2024 Share #312 Posted July 18, 2024 Here's a portrait at f1.4 and 0.45 m focusing distance: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375297-brand-new-close-focus-summilux-m-50-f14-asph/?do=findComment&comment=5433850'>More sharing options...
Safa Posted July 18, 2024 Share #313 Posted July 18, 2024 (edited) Another one with f1.4 close focus: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited July 18, 2024 by Safa 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375297-brand-new-close-focus-summilux-m-50-f14-asph/?do=findComment&comment=5433955'>More sharing options...
Safa Posted July 20, 2024 Share #314 Posted July 20, 2024 On 5/31/2024 at 4:37 PM, AndrewLT said: (But I'd still be very interested to hear any thoughts about the resolution of the new version versus the original Asph away from the centre of the frame and not just at the edges.) Thanks .... Andrew If it’s not too late: I don’t know about the resolution performance of the Summilux ASPH v1, but compared to a Summicron 50 v5, which I considered a crisp lens at f8, this new Summilux ASHP v2 is even sharper. There is a noticeable difference in file size, as if the lens is catering for every pixel on the sensor ☺️ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safa Posted July 20, 2024 Share #315 Posted July 20, 2024 Some examples taken at f5.6–f8. Usually my sharpness setting in Lightroom is just 40. Click to see the original sizes in Flickr: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375297-brand-new-close-focus-summilux-m-50-f14-asph/?do=findComment&comment=5438268'>More sharing options...
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