Shawn30 Posted March 20, 2023 Share #341 Â Posted March 20, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) 3 hours ago, BernardC said: Are you using the the latest firmware (v5.1)? Yes, my SL2 is on the current release. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 20, 2023 Posted March 20, 2023 Hi Shawn30, Take a look here SL 100-400 f/5.6-6 Rebrand But Not the Same Lens. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
dem331 Posted March 20, 2023 Share #342  Posted March 20, 2023 58 minutes ago, Shawn30 said: Yes, my SL2 is on the current release. I wonder if you are experiencing the same problem as Gordon noticed in post 246 of this thread. I was thinking of buying this lens but I am having second thoughts if the quality is hit and miss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted March 20, 2023 Share #343  Posted March 20, 2023 5 hours ago, Shawn30 said: I got my copy of the Leica VE SL 100-400mm on Saturday and all I can say is that I’m disappointed. It misses focus randomly and it’s not very sharp when it hits focus. The problem could be my SL2, but the problem has only popped up on 2 lens’s ever,  the Sigma 100-400, and Leica 100-400 When it nails focus, my copy of the Leica 100-400 isn’t as sharp as the Sigma 150-600 at the same focal length, shutter speed etc. it’s no where near as sharp as the Panasonic 70-300. Again I’ve had no missed focus problems with any other OIS zoom lens besides the two mentioned above. I’ll post a few examples pics Mine is the opposite, after my lens exchange. My current 100-400 is noticeably sharper than my 150-600. I did have to exchange the 100-400 to get it that way. I’d be going back to your dealer and trying another one. Gordon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn30 Posted March 20, 2023 Share #344  Posted March 20, 2023 5 hours ago, Shawn30 said: I got my copy of the Leica VE SL 100-400mm on Saturday and all I can say is that I’m disappointed. It misses focus randomly and it’s not very sharp when it hits focus. The problem could be my SL2, but the problem has only popped up on 2 lens’s ever,  the Sigma 100-400, and Leica 100-400 When it nails focus, my copy of the Leica 100-400 isn’t as sharp as the Sigma 150-600 at the same focal length, shutter speed etc. it’s no where near as sharp as the Panasonic 70-300. Again I’ve had no missed focus problems with any other OIS zoom lens besides the two mentioned above. I’ll post a few examples pics If I could delete the above post I would. Turns out the focusing issue was an ID10T error. After updating the SL2 firmware I hadn’t put any of my normal settings back in. I’m not sure which setting fixed it, but I haven’t had a blurry photo since. A bit of a knee jerk reaction on my part. Also after adding contrast to the Leica I feel like it’s about the same as the 150-600. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn30 Posted March 20, 2023 Share #345  Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) Sigma 150-600 jpeg out of camera, no edits @400mm, 1/1600, ISO 500, f6.0 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited March 20, 2023 by Shawn30 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/371396-sl-100-400-f56-6-rebrand-but-not-the-same-lens/?do=findComment&comment=4731337'>More sharing options...
Shawn30 Posted March 20, 2023 Share #346  Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) Leica 100-400 jpeg out of camera, no edits @400mm, 1/1600, ISO 500, f6.3 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited March 20, 2023 by Shawn30 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/371396-sl-100-400-f56-6-rebrand-but-not-the-same-lens/?do=findComment&comment=4731338'>More sharing options...
HPFM Posted March 22, 2023 Share #347  Posted March 22, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) Got my Leica 100-400 today from my German dealer (Foto Görlitz). Thanks to all the information about possible "bad copies"in terms of sharpnes!  To avoid any exchange of the new 100-400 I asked the dealer to do a short test before delivery... I sold my Sigma 100-400 some days ago, so I cannot do a side by side testing of the two - but: look and feel of the lens is Leica, handling is Leica, first shots at 400 seem pretty sharp and absolutely comparable to my 150-600 (Sigma), AF is quiet and fast.  Am I happy? Yes. If it is "Sigma inside", Leica successfully made a Leica-lens of it... Is it worth 2200 Euro - a lot of money compared to the Sigma? That's not only technical question...for me: yes.  Now I'm exited to see some testing of the Extender - if the 1.4 doesn't reduce optical quality significantly I´ll buy it to replace the 150-600... a really good lens, but for me to heavy to use it all. day long. And my main focus isn't any more  birding. I´m doing more and more landscape  and hope to use the new lens a lot of time together with the 24-90.  1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanetomlane Posted March 22, 2023 Share #348  Posted March 22, 2023 On 3/10/2023 at 6:10 PM, LD_50 said: Yes. My 24-90 extends on its own by gravity. Agreed, when I use the shoulder strap on my SL2, or SL, the lens always slips to the 90mm end of the range. Slight annoyance but absolutely love the lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planetwide Posted March 23, 2023 Share #349  Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) On 3/20/2023 at 11:09 AM, Shawn30 said: I got my copy of the Leica VE SL 100-400mm on Saturday and all I can say is that I’m disappointed. It misses focus randomly and it’s not very sharp when it hits focus. The problem could be my SL2, but the problem has only popped up on 2 lens’s ever,  the Sigma 100-400, and Leica 100-400 When it nails focus, my copy of the Leica 100-400 isn’t as sharp as the Sigma 150-600 at the same focal length, shutter speed etc. it’s no where near as sharp as the Panasonic 70-300. Again I’ve had no missed focus problems with any other OIS zoom lens besides the two mentioned above. I’ll post a few examples pics I am having the same problem with my new Sigma 100-40mm - inconsistent AF performance. It is slightly worse on my SL2 vs the S1r, but still too unreliable, so Its going back... FYI, when it does focus, it's reasonably sharp at the macro level. But it lacks sharpness on fine detail. The 90-280mm is in a different league. Edited March 23, 2023 by Planetwide 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 23, 2023 Share #350  Posted March 23, 2023 Didn’t you adjust the AF to your needs? There are 16 settings. https://www.sigma-global.com/en/accessories/usb-dock-ud01/ I’m not sure whether the Leica lens has the same option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planetwide Posted March 24, 2023 Share #351  Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, jaapv said: Didn’t you adjust the AF to your needs? There are 16 settings. https://www.sigma-global.com/en/accessories/usb-dock-ud01/ I’m not sure whether the Leica lens has the same option. Yes, I had to adjust it to attain good macro focus. This was done with a target. Testing at infinity is the issue, I do get some sharp shots at the macro level, but fine detail is not there even in the centre of the image. Occasionally, I get a shot that appears to be in focus, and was confirmed as in focus when taken, but the resulting image seems to be soft. I am seeing the same thing in MF too, IS on and Off. Its almost is if an element is moving out of position. I will return it and try another. Edited March 24, 2023 by Planetwide 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 24, 2023 Share #352  Posted March 24, 2023 That sounds like  shutter slap problem that comes with these long combos. Did Electronic Shutter make a difference? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planetwide Posted March 24, 2023 Share #353 Â Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) Shutter speed was 1000/sec, so not an issue. I have shot the Canon V1, V2 100-400mm's, 500mm & 600mm EF and RF 100-500mm FYI Edited March 24, 2023 by Planetwide Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 24, 2023 Share #354  Posted March 24, 2023 It is I found on my 150-600. At any shutter speed. I think Sigma’s O I S cannot handle high frequencies. Try it. It is no issue on my other long lenses. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planetwide Posted March 25, 2023 Share #355 Â Posted March 25, 2023 Did you find the 150-600mm DG DN sharper than the 100-400mm? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erudolph Posted March 25, 2023 Share #356  Posted March 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Planetwide said: Did you find the 150-600mm DG DN sharper than the 100-400mm? I have the 150-600mm DG DN and, other than the schlep-factor, have been happy with it. For the past few days I've had a friend's Sigma 100-400 f/5-6.3 DG DN along with the TC-1411. With that combo I had more misses than with the 150-600, but I think the results could be comparable. Here's one of the shots from the 100-400/TC combo: cropped, ISO 800, wide open. Hope this is of some help. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/371396-sl-100-400-f56-6-rebrand-but-not-the-same-lens/?do=findComment&comment=4736238'>More sharing options...
Wurlitzer-1015 Posted March 25, 2023 Share #357  Posted March 25, 2023 On 3/21/2023 at 5:07 AM, Shawn30 said: If I could delete the above post I would. Turns out the focusing issue was an ID10T error. After updating the SL2 firmware I hadn’t put any of my normal settings back in. I’m not sure which setting fixed it, but I haven’t had a blurry photo since. A bit of a knee jerk reaction on my part. Also after adding contrast to the Leica I feel like it’s about the same as the 150-600. 100% to you Shaun, I was going to post to say my experience was very contrary to yours but it's really great when posters update their findings. You're not an "ID10T", you're a very responsible poster. It's fits my life policy, "I enjoy being wrong, I learn more that way than always being right" 4 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPFM Posted March 28, 2023 Share #358  Posted March 28, 2023 Got my copy of the Leica 100-400 last week, today made a few shots for testing in the forest - comparing the lens to my Sigma 100-400 the Leica seems faster and quiet regarding AF and I am happy with sharpness. Ok, I know that with the extender 1.4 there will be loss of light and perhaps sharpness, but as a lightweight alternative to my Sigma 150-600 ??? Anyone with "first experience" using the combo Leica 100-400 with extender???? Does it perform?? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/371396-sl-100-400-f56-6-rebrand-but-not-the-same-lens/?do=findComment&comment=4738304'>More sharing options...
HPFM Posted March 28, 2023 Share #359  Posted March 28, 2023 Another example...  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/371396-sl-100-400-f56-6-rebrand-but-not-the-same-lens/?do=findComment&comment=4738307'>More sharing options...
HPFM Posted March 28, 2023 Share #360  Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) ..last one from today😀. I´m considering to order the extender... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited March 28, 2023 by HPFM Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/371396-sl-100-400-f56-6-rebrand-but-not-the-same-lens/?do=findComment&comment=4738308'>More sharing options...
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