Stephencdean Posted February 26, 2023 Share #1 Posted February 26, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello, just bought one of these lenses, serial number 3155833. The Wiki information is a bit confusing on two points. it states <3013651 is V1 2 cam with attached hood, and > is 3 cam with built in hood. In the serial numbers below on the wiki, only limited r angles are listed as (3cam), not including mine. But my lens is above the v1 v2 range stated. I can’t work out how to extend the built in hood. Tried twisting like some of the M lenses require, but nothing. The lens text is on the side and it doesn’t have the small metal prongs at the top of the lens. are there any other identifying features? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 26, 2023 Posted February 26, 2023 Hi Stephencdean, Take a look here 60mm Macro-Elmarit R. Which one do I have?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
frame-it Posted February 26, 2023 Share #2 Posted February 26, 2023 a photo of the lens might help? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephencdean Posted February 26, 2023 Author Share #3 Posted February 26, 2023 11 minutes ago, frame-it said: a photo of the lens might help? Here you go! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/368744-60mm-macro-elmarit-r-which-one-do-i-have/?do=findComment&comment=4701210'>More sharing options...
frame-it Posted February 26, 2023 Share #4 Posted February 26, 2023 where is the built in hood? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephencdean Posted February 26, 2023 Author Share #5 Posted February 26, 2023 1 hour ago, frame-it said: where is the built in hood? That is what I was thinking! I have taken off the filter and it doesn’t release the hood, if there is one. The lens is very recessed, is that what it means? The built in hood is always there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted February 26, 2023 Share #6 Posted February 26, 2023 38 minutes ago, Stephencdean said: That is what I was thinking! I have taken off the filter and it doesn’t release the hood, if there is one. The lens is very recessed, is that what it means? The built in hood is always there? didn't know there is a version with a built in hood, the accessory hood is #12514 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansvons Posted February 26, 2023 Share #7 Posted February 26, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) To my knowledge, there's no 60mm Elmarit R with an in-build lens hood, as the front lens element is pretty recessed, and the housing itself is the hood. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephencdean Posted February 26, 2023 Author Share #8 Posted February 26, 2023 Interesting isn’t it? Leica Pocket Book, 8th edition, states both versions have built in hood! Doesn’t mention 2 and 3 cam, but does say weight of V1 is 375 grams and V2 390 grams. The lens in pic above weights 402 grams without caps/filter. Leica forum wiki states 400 grams, https://wiki.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/60mm_f/2.8_Macro-Elmarit-R as does Leica data sheet found on Torsten Overgaard website https://www.overgaard.dk/pdf/Macro-Elmarit-R_60_mm_Technical_Data_en.pdf This data sheet again states lens hood, telescopic. Perhaps ours have all frozen shut! only other info I can find is V1 2 cam has series VIII filter size and V2 3 cam has E55 filter size. I wonder if I have too much spare time on a Sunday afternoon! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted February 26, 2023 Share #9 Posted February 26, 2023 Mine doesn't have one, nor does it need one. The front element, which is about 25mm diameter, is so far recessed into the body of the lens that a hood would be superfluous. The lens body, and the matt black ridged lining, is in effect its own hood. The telescopic reference in that data sheet is referencing the fact that the front of the lens extends significantly as you focus closer to the minimum. But, there is no "hood". 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephencdean Posted February 26, 2023 Author Share #10 Posted February 26, 2023 33 minutes ago, andybarton said: Mine doesn't have one, nor does it need one. The front element, which is about 25mm diameter, is so far recessed into the body of the lens that a hood would be superfluous. The lens body, and the matt black ridged lining, is in effect its own hood. The telescopic reference in that data sheet is referencing the fact that the front of the lens extends significantly as you focus closer to the minimum. But, there is no "hood". That makes sense. Thank you! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpitt Posted February 26, 2023 Share #11 Posted February 26, 2023 The version of the mount 2-cam, 3-cam... can not be derived from the serial number. It could be ordered 'a la carte' by the buyer. Most of the numbers above 3xxx will be 3-cam or R mount. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansvons Posted February 26, 2023 Share #12 Posted February 26, 2023 3 hours ago, Stephencdean said: I wonder if I have too much spare time on a Sunday afternoon! I thought I'll join you in wasting time and looked into my closet. My 60mm Elmarit's front lens (V1, Sr. 2723881) is so deeply recessed that I wonder how that housing isn't getting in the way. BTW, this is one of Leica's finest lenses ever. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmknoble Posted February 28, 2023 Share #13 Posted February 28, 2023 The hood is the fact that the lens is so far recessed in the front of the lens. Adding a filter can actually cause reflections that may be unwanted. The lens does also extend as focus changes, but I believe the ‘built-in’ hood is the lens design. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernando_b Posted February 28, 2023 Share #14 Posted February 28, 2023 4 hours ago, davidmknoble said: Adding a filter can actually cause reflections that may be unwanted. 👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted February 28, 2023 Share #15 Posted February 28, 2023 Am 26.2.2023 um 16:34 schrieb andybarton: The lens body, and the matt black ridged lining, is in effect its own hood. Leica said the same. In the "Handbuch des Leica Systems" from 1992 they wrote: "Gegenlichtblende: eingebaut (Hood: built in)." 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin K Posted February 28, 2023 Share #16 Posted February 28, 2023 For the first version of the Macro-Elmarit R 1:2,8/60mm a lens hood was available (no. 12514) that could be ordered separately. It was designed to take the series VIII filters. Later designs (after 1980) did not need the hood to take the filters, as it sported a standard 55mm filter thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephencdean Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share #17 Posted March 5, 2023 Thanks for all the replies! I have now secured an E55 Len’s cap, so the filter will be removed. . I can see the logic of the filter though, the recessed area between the top of the lens and the actual glass is ridged, and, as several comment, quite deep. It is the proverbial dust trap! thanks to all! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edstock Posted March 18, 2023 Share #18 Posted March 18, 2023 My 60 f2.8 is recessed as others have said. The serial number on mine is3279xxx. Don't know where it falls regards production date. No I don't use a hood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Leica Posted March 24, 2023 Share #19 Posted March 24, 2023 Here are some points that may help you: Regarding the lens type: The Wiki information you have consulted suggests that lenses with serial numbers below 3013651 are V1 2 cam with an attached hood, while lenses with serial numbers above >3013651 are 3 cam with a built-in hood. However, you have mentioned that your lens is above the V1 V2 range stated, but not listed as a 3 cam lens. Based on this, it is possible that your lens is a later model or a special edition that is not mentioned in the Wiki. You may want to search for more information about your specific lens model or contact the manufacturer or a professional camera dealer to help identify your lens. Extending the built-in hood: The built-in hood of your lens may not extend by twisting like some M lenses do. It is possible that your lens requires a different method to extend the hood. Some lenses have a button or lever that needs to be pressed or pulled to extend the hood. Others may require the lens to be zoomed or focused to extend the hood. You can consult the user manual or online resources for your specific lens model for instructions on how to extend the hood. Other identifying features: You mentioned that your lens does not have small metal prongs at the top of the lens. It is possible that your lens is a newer model that does not require these prongs. However, without more information or photos, it is difficult to determine other identifying features of your lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edstock Posted April 7, 2023 Share #20 Posted April 7, 2023 Probably a bit late, but here's my two cents. Leica never made a lens a supplementary hood for the 60 f2.8. Instead, the lens was designed to incorporate a lens hood. The depth of the barrel suffices for a hood. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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