USB C port loose?

[felipe_s]

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Good evening! First week with my M11, brilliant camera, what a privilege. Alas, before I ring up Leica customer service and have it whisked away for months–How loose is that USB-C port supposed to be? Mine has a considerable amount of lateral play when I plug in a cable, as if the port was only attached to the body with a rubber gasket. Never had anything on the previous Leicas I owned that could‘ve been described as „loose“, hence my curiosity. Cheers, Phil

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[SrMi]

USB-C ports are always loose, some more, some less.

[Photoworks]

there are many different cables, but I never had and issue.

In the studio I will use the Leica grip for the M11, it frame the USB-c opening and giving more stability to the plug.

Unless you shoot tethered to an iPad in capture one, there is no reason to use the cable. the wifi 5GHz is faster that the cable in Leica FOTOS app.

I never charge the camera true the camera, just because it is like fast charging and you battery will age quicker.

[frame-it]

1 hour ago, felipe_s said:

considerable amount of lateral play

sounds like a problem..all ports should have a tiny bit of wiggle room, but not a huge amount...is it actually the port or the leica cable?

Edited January 15, 2023 by frame-it

[Henners]

The cable in the port can sometimes have a slight amount of wiggle, the port itself shouldn't have any. I'll try mine in case there's a tiny amount I've not noticed before but I don't recall there being any. if yours is loose then I'd avoid using the port and send it off for repair.

If you can record a video with your phone then we can be more help and hopefully save you sending it off.

Edited January 16, 2023 by Henners

[DenverSteve]

I just checked as I've not thought about it previously.  It's like every USB-C port I've ever used.  The port is tight in the camera while a cable plugged in will wiggle a slight amount. My movement is with the cable, not the port. 

[felipe_s]

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Thank you for your help and comments. Here‘s a video of what I mean. On an iPad, a port with that amount of leeway would usually mean it‘s broken or about to break. 

@Photoworks That‘s actually the only purpose I‘d use the port for–charging. You‘re saying the camera doesn‘t load balance as well as the tiny charger it came with?

 

[Henners]

Just checked mine and it's recessed in the camera slightly so difficult to test if there's any movement but a fingernail giving it a slight push and it didn't budge. Mine is exactly the same as yours in the video.

It's got a normal amount of USB-C movement/wiggle - a few mm back and forth but that's the same for all my USB-C devices (just checked with my Android phone too).

Edited January 16, 2023 by Henners

[Guest]

Looks fine to me, mine "wiggles" the same.

There is no issue at all using USB charging. In any case USB supports multiple input voltages. "Fast" charging, or any other speed of charging, is dependant on the capacity of the power supply at the other end of the cable and is not an intrinsic feature of USB. Also, the camera will only use as much power as it needs to safely charge the battery independent of the actual capacity of the power sources.

Edited January 16, 2023 by Corius

[felipe_s]

Glad this seems normal, thanks again for checking! FWIW, compared to the USB-C ports on other/previous cameras–from an X1D to the Ricoh GR III series, and even IPads, this is definitely the most “wobbly“ implementation I‘ve encountered. 

Cheers folks!

[Photoworks]

2 hours ago, felipe_s said:

You‘re saying the camera doesn‘t load balance as well as the tiny charger it came with?

Leica charge usually charge quickly to 80% the blinking light come on, and then it slows down charging to 100% and then stops.

Reddotforum was saying that the time to fully charge a battery in camera is less, it goes quicker to 100% and temperature of the battery is increased. there is no 80% slowdown.
Than is convenient if you need to run out and want the battery charged quicker, but probably reduces battery life over time. they suggest to use the charger when possible.

[jakontil]

44 minutes ago, Photoworks said:

Leica charge usually charge quickly to 80% the blinking light come on, and then it slows down charging to 100% and then stops.

Reddotforum was saying that the time to fully charge a battery in camera is less, it goes quicker to 100% and temperature of the battery is increased. there is no 80% slowdown.
Than is convenient if you need to run out and want the battery charged quicker, but probably reduces battery life over time. they suggest to use the charger when possible.

I use usb c auto disconnect cable, it works fine and when checked it was 100% after i left it charged 

[Photoworks]

35 minutes ago, jakontil said:

1 hour ago, Photoworks said:

Leica charge usually charge quickly to 80% the blinking light come on, and then it slows down charging to 100% and then stops.

Reddotforum was saying that the time to fully charge a battery in camera is less, it goes quicker to 100% and temperature of the battery is increased. there is no 80% slowdown.
Than is convenient if you need to run out and want the battery charged quicker, but probably reduces battery life over time. they suggest to use the charger when possible.

I use usb c auto disconnect cable, it works fine and when checked it was 100% after i left it charged 

I think you missed the point of the last 20% charge does

[SrMi]

1 hour ago, Photoworks said:

Leica charge usually charge quickly to 80% the blinking light come on, and then it slows down charging to 100% and then stops.

Reddotforum was saying that the time to fully charge a battery in camera is less, it goes quicker to 100% and temperature of the battery is increased. there is no 80% slowdown.
Than is convenient if you need to run out and want the battery charged quicker, but probably reduces battery life over time. they suggest to use the charger when possible.

This is the original information from Red Dot Forum:

RedDotForum YT video (1:33:02):
- standalone charger: 80% in 1h 40min, 100% in 2h 45min.
- in-camera charging: 80% in 1h 25min, 100% in 1h 55min
- It is possible that in-camera charging may shorten the battery life.

[Guest]

Life is too short to worry about a vague chance of shortening a battery life by a vague amount.

[SrMi]

46 minutes ago, Corius said:

Life is too short to worry about a vague chance of shortening a battery life by a vague amount.

+1

I use whichever method is more convenient.

[DenverSteve]

1 hour ago, Corius said:

Life is too short to worry about a vague chance of shortening a battery life by a vague amount.

Amen.  Shoot, shoot, charge, shoot shoot....... repeat. 

[LBJ2]

On 1/16/2023 at 5:59 AM, felipe_s said:

Thank you for your help and comments. Here‘s a video of what I mean. On an iPad, a port with that amount of leeway would usually mean it‘s broken or about to break. 

@Photoworks That‘s actually the only purpose I‘d use the port for–charging. You‘re saying the camera doesn‘t load balance as well as the tiny charger it came with?

 

Good you posted a video. I notice similar wiggle with any USBC cable to include the Leica/Apple MFI cable. I am not worried about it in the slightest. Non issue as far a I am concerned particularly as I now notice a slight wiggle with all my Apple device/computers USBC ports and USBC cables. Now to erase this from my OCD memory bank LOL. 

Edited January 18, 2023 by LBJ2

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