C_R Posted October 17, 2012 Share #141 Posted October 17, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) It was almost too dark, 1/24 sec handheld with MM and the 90AA, ISO 10.000, f:4 MM and 35Lux, 1/500 sec f:1.4 ISO 320, pushed 2 stops (had to underexpose because of bright reflections LHS and backlight) (both were resized to 1050, but shown here in 800. Larger here) Carsten 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wattsy Posted October 17, 2012 Share #142 Posted October 17, 2012 Carsten, the first one in particular demonstrates some impressive technique (1/24 using a 90). Did you filter either lens? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjames9142 Posted October 17, 2012 Share #143 Posted October 17, 2012 Another low light situation: ISO 2500, which seems to very manageable in what I now think of as grain, rather than noise. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/359803-monochrom-1-shots-post-them-here/?do=findComment&comment=2143572'>More sharing options...
C_R Posted October 17, 2012 Share #144 Posted October 17, 2012 Carsten, the first one in particular demonstrates some impressive technique (1/24 using a 90). Did you filter either lens? No filter. For landscape, I use a filter in 90%, but for a natural looking portrait I find the unfiltered results already nice in spectral response. Art effects are another story BTW, 1/24 was really an exception. With the 90, I prefer 1/180 or even 1/250 for critical sharpness (but, as my wife said correctly: portraits dont need to be so ultra sharp...). I sacrificed exp for f:4 because f:2 so close is extremely shallow DOF Carsten Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
C_R Posted October 17, 2012 Share #145 Posted October 17, 2012 Another low light situation: ISO 2500, which seems to very manageable in what I now think of as grain, rather than noise. Beautiful shot. Re grain: I give you right, the grain looks very nice, you only lose some fine detail. I find even ISO 3200 usable for landscape, but have some nice shots @ ISO 10.000 I would have missed otherwise Carsten Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjames9142 Posted October 17, 2012 Share #146 Posted October 17, 2012 (edited) Carsten, I would be curious to see what your ISO 10,000 looks like. Edited October 17, 2012 by gjames9142 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted October 17, 2012 Share #147 Posted October 17, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) The moment the MM has been announced I have been hunting one ever since.It was long and difficult, to get one, but finally, I had my first hour with my very own M Mono this morning. My first impression after shooting exclusively B&W for more than two years with the M8.2 and M9 - the M Mono is very, very different and incredibly so. Some months of learning are ahead now, to get a handle on using this camera. /[ End of quote] Congratulations Dirk, thanks for sharing ! Enjoy !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
borowiec Posted October 18, 2012 Share #148 Posted October 18, 2012 I am just making a bunch of small (20 in) prints to show at a LeicaAkademie I am leading this week in Toronto, and it's obvious that the MM is noticeably ahead of the M9 in B/W. The increased resolution is there, and it seems to give more body to the print. This probably won't look anything in a jpeg, but a simple painted sign (on a curved column) has the feel of a contact print. I am knocked out by this camera. I'm curious about the prints. I read that you're using an Epson 4900 and Ilford Gold Fibre; are you using the standard Epson inks with Epson Advanced Black and White mode? How do you soft-proof? Unlike with standard color management, for black and white I've been unable to set up a soft-proofing profile that accurately shows on screen what the print will look like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjames9142 Posted October 18, 2012 Share #149 Posted October 18, 2012 I'm curious about the prints. I read that you're using an Epson 4900 and Ilford Gold Fibre; are you using the standard Epson inks with Epson Advanced Black and White mode? How do you soft-proof? Unlike with standard color management, for black and white I've been unable to set up a soft-proofing profile that accurately shows on screen what the print will look like. I don't soft-proof. My screen is calibrated, and in terms of light levels shows me what I am going to get. Don't use the Advanced Black and White either, though I am going to play with it. I use the Ilford profile, which actually may fairly useless in BW. I just make the print, and if it doesn't feel right, make another. Standard Epson inks. I looked into John Cone's inks and decided I didn't want to go. Did some big panoramas a few years ago with the piezography inks, and found permanence issues -- darks turning blue quite quickly, and an instant yellowing of the hahnemuhl paper in a couple of weeks at the framers. This whole subject is fraught, and it is extraordinarily hard to get real information about longevity. For the larger 36 inch prints I work with a really good printer at a custom lab, and he goes through a lot more steps than I do, but what I am asking him to do is to make a bigger but similar print to the one I give him as a guide. The bigger ones are on Hahnemuhl photo rag. This probably isn't too helpful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alun Posted October 18, 2012 Share #150 Posted October 18, 2012 I love this - tremendous atmosphere. Visited my old college (King's Cambridge). I had to get my college card from the development office housed in the Gibbs Building; outside the office was this scene with a portrait of Alan Turing. No attempt to modernise the place! MM, 35/1.4, light yellow filter, a little cropping, otherwise just LR4's export filtering. ISO 5000 and the noise is apparent at 100% but apt for this image. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjames9142 Posted October 18, 2012 Share #151 Posted October 18, 2012 Berlin Ubahn Elmarit V4 28 ISO 2500 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/359803-monochrom-1-shots-post-them-here/?do=findComment&comment=2144373'>More sharing options...
borowiec Posted October 18, 2012 Share #152 Posted October 18, 2012 I don't soft-proof. My screen is calibrated, and in terms of light levels shows me what I am going to get. Don't use the Advanced Black and White either, though I am going to play with it. I use the Ilford profile, which actually may fairly useless in BW. I just make the print, and if it doesn't feel right, make another. Standard Epson inks. I looked into John Cone's inks and decided I didn't want to go. Did some big panoramas a few years ago with the piezography inks, and found permanence issues -- darks turning blue quite quickly, and an instant yellowing of the hahnemuhl paper in a couple of weeks at the framers. This whole subject is fraught, and it is extraordinarily hard to get real information about longevity. For the larger 36 inch prints I work with a really good printer at a custom lab, and he goes through a lot more steps than I do, but what I am asking him to do is to make a bigger but similar print to the one I give him as a guide. The bigger ones are on Hahnemuhl photo rag. This probably isn't too helpful. Thanks, that was quite helpful. My screen is calibrated and is an Eizo, so pretty accurate, yet when using Advanced B&W I find a huge difference between what I see and the prints. I'll have to play around with printing without Advanced B&W. I tested most of the fiber papers a few years ago and settled on Epson Exhibition Fiber, though Ilford 's Silk wasn't out yet (I have a sample on its way from Ilford and will try it). I used Hahnemuehle Fine Art Baryta for a while until I ran into inconsistencies from batch to batch, which Hahnemuehle claimed were within their limits of tolerance. I've seen comparisons of Cone inks to Epson inks and can't discern any difference. --Andrew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjames9142 Posted October 18, 2012 Share #153 Posted October 18, 2012 Andrew, I get the impression that you really have to do the Vermont workshop to "get" Cone's system. I have a photographer friend in Miami, Randal Levenson, who is a formidable printer and has three large dedicated Epson to various tonings of Cone. I am going down to have fun with all this in early December. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
borowiec Posted October 18, 2012 Share #154 Posted October 18, 2012 Andrew, I get the impression that you really have to do the Vermont workshop to "get" Cone's system. I have a photographer friend in Miami, Randal Levenson, who is a formidable printer and has three large dedicated Epson to various tonings of Cone. I am going down to have fun with all this in early December. I'll be interested to know what you conclude after that! --Andrew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
C_R Posted October 18, 2012 Share #155 Posted October 18, 2012 Carsten, I would be curious to see what your ISO 10,000 looks like. This was in a church, St Nikolai, Stralsund, Germany. 1/24 sec f:4.5 with MM and Heliar 15/4.5 ISO 10.000 Only conversion with Photo Ninja, no PS resized for 1400 wide Carsten 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatar Posted October 19, 2012 Share #156 Posted October 19, 2012 (edited) ran to catch up and get into position for one fast shot..Lexington Avenue 58th Street NYC sorry about the ugly watermark...working on learning how to make it smaller,etc.. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited October 19, 2012 by Avatar 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/359803-monochrom-1-shots-post-them-here/?do=findComment&comment=2144842'>More sharing options...
Avatar Posted October 19, 2012 Share #157 Posted October 19, 2012 I'm late to the game in this thread after having my Monochrome for about two weeks. I've been posting in the Street section. Really enjoying this thread and I'll be posting here too.. Great stuff guys, thanks for sharing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjames9142 Posted October 19, 2012 Share #158 Posted October 19, 2012 Sixties Modernism, Berlin, last week Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/359803-monochrom-1-shots-post-them-here/?do=findComment&comment=2145040'>More sharing options...
C_R Posted October 20, 2012 Share #159 Posted October 20, 2012 ISO 500, CV Heliar 15/4.5 This link looks better here (detail rendering), it was resized for 1050 Carsten Flickr 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted October 20, 2012 Share #160 Posted October 20, 2012 … some from this morning with uncoated 3.5cm Elmar and collapsible Summicron 50mm: tai chi - both hands 2 by teknopunk.com, on Flickr portrait - man with iPod by teknopunk.com, on Flickr overloading a truck - horizontal by teknopunk.com, on Flickr security trucks and scooters by teknopunk.com, on Flickr 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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