Brand new MP/M-A/M6 film scratches [Merged]

[Huss]

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Hunter S Thompson

The stage is set with a chaotic mess of papers, empty bottles, and a single, scuffed up Leica M6 lying on the table. Seated at the table is a man, known simply as The Gonzo Photographer, a wild and unpredictable figure with a knack for capturing life's most surreal moments.

GONZO: (slurring his words) You know what really grinds my gears, man? This damn Leica.

He picks up the camera and studies it closely, his eyes bloodshot and manic.

GONZO: Supposed to be the best, right? But what do I get? A scratched film on the very first shot.

He slams the camera down on the table, sending a stack of papers flying.

GONZO: It's supposed to capture the truth, man. But how can I do that when it can't even do its job?

He takes a swig from a bottle of whiskey, the liquid spilling down his chin.

GONZO: Maybe I should just give up. Call it a day and forget about trying to capture life's madness.

He pauses, his eyes fixed on the camera.

GONZO: But no. That's not who I am, man. I don't give up that easy.

He loads another roll of film into the camera, his movements quick and frenzied.

GONZO: I'll get it right this time, man. Even if it means going to the ends of the earth.

He raises the camera to his eye, a wild grin spreading across his face.

GONZO: The Leica may have scratched the film, but I won't let it defeat me. I'll capture the madness of the world, one shot at a time.

The lights fade to black, leaving the audience with the image of a man determined to push the limits and capture life's wildest moments, no matter the cost.

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[Huss]

Ok last one!  But I think this one is my favorite

Jackie Collins

Title: The Tragedy of the Scratched Film

Setting: A glamorous photography studio in New York City.

Characters:

Erika, a beautiful and talented fashion photographer.
Adam, Erika's handsome and charismatic assistant.
Stella, Erika's wealthy and demanding client.
Leif, a mysterious and enigmatic Leica collector.
Act I

Scene 1:

Erika is in her studio, carefully examining a roll of film. She notices a scratch running through every frame.

Erika: (gasps) Oh no! This can't be happening!

Adam: (rushing in) What's wrong, Erika?

Erika: (holding up the roll of film) Look at this!

Adam: (inspecting the film) Oh man, that's bad. What are we going to do?

Scene 2:

Stella walks into the studio, looking impatient.

Stella: What's taking so long? I have a schedule to keep.

Erika: (frantically) I'm sorry, Stella. There's been a problem with the film.

Stella: (irritated) What kind of problem?

Erika: (holding up the roll of film) It's scratched. Every frame.

Stella: (furious) This is unacceptable! Do you know how much money I'm paying for this shoot?

Adam: (trying to calm Stella down) We understand your frustration, Stella. We'll do everything we can to fix this.

Scene 3:

Leif enters the studio, carrying a beautiful Leica M6 camera.

Leif: (smiling) Hello, everyone. I heard there was a problem with your film.

Erika: (intrigued) Who are you?

Leif: (mysteriously) Just a collector of fine cameras. And I happen to have a solution to your problem.

Act II

Scene 1:

Leif takes out the Leica M6 and shows it to Erika.

Leif: This camera is known for its perfect film transport. It will never scratch your film.

Erika: (amazed) I've heard of this camera. But it's very rare and expensive.

Leif: (nodding) Indeed it is. But I am willing to lend it to you for this shoot.

Scene 2:

Erika shoots with the Leica M6, and the results are stunning. Stella is impressed.

Stella: (smiling) These photos are incredible. You've exceeded my expectations.

Erika: (grateful) Thank you, Stella. And thank you, Leif.

Scene 3:

Leif returns to the studio to collect his camera.

Leif: (smiling) I'm glad I could be of assistance. But remember, the true beauty of photography is not in the equipment, but in the artistry of the photographer.

Erika: (nodding) You're right. And I'll never forget this lesson.

Leif exits the studio, leaving Erika and Adam to bask in the glow of their successful shoot.

Erika: (smiling) That was a close call. But we made it through.

Adam: (laughing) Yeah, and we got to shoot with a Leica M6. Not too shabby.

Erika: (smiling) Not too shabby at all.

 

[Mikep996]

The Grateful Dead:

"Keep your day job
Don't give it away
Keep your day job
Whatever they say"  

 

[Huss]

4 hours ago, Mikep996 said:

The Grateful Dead:

"Keep your day job
Don't give it away
Keep your day job
Whatever they say"  

 

What would a scratching M6’s day job be?

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a dj scratching turntables of course 

[satijntje]

Initially I wanted to keep my new Black Paint MP sealed and to give it in a few years to my youngest son when he will finish high school.
But after reading all those messages about scratched film I decided to open the box and to load the MP with a cheap film and run it through.
So, I can report that there are absolutely no scratches on the film.
The serial of the MP is 49838XX
Maybe it is an earlier production run then the problem cameras .....
So, now I have decided to use the MP together with my M10-R Black paint.
They look like twins 🙂

[Huss]

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Just got an update that yes, the ISO dial on my new M6 will also need to be replaced.  Waiting on parts for that too.

 

[Huss]

So here is a philosophical question, of sorts.  If your brand new camera is defective, and they replace the new defective parts with new parts.  Does that mean it is now a new new camera?

Or is this when we include the word spankin?  Brand spankin new M6?  

[ktmrider2]

I see Leica's comedy of errors continues!  I just took my 1968 Nikon F with 55f3.5 Micro Nikkor in for a checkup.  It is worth a lot less than my 50th Anniversary Leica M4 but it does not scratch film.  What is going on with the current stuff coming out of Germany?

Edited February 21, 2023 by ktmrider2

[Mike Rawcs]

51 minutes ago, Huss said:

Just got an update that yes, the ISO dial on my new M6 will also need to be replaced.  Waiting on parts for that too.

 

Huss, I thought you were going to ask for a refund? As I stated earlier in this thread, I cancelled my M6 order.

Having learned (also from this thread) that the MP now comes with leatherette covers I was going to order one, (I prefer the MP rewind knob) once the scratching problem had been resolved, but when that will be, who knows?

[logan2z]

8 hours ago, Huss said:

Just got an update that yes, the ISO dial on my new M6 will also need to be replaced.  Waiting on parts for that too.

 

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[Huss]

7 hours ago, Mike Rawcs said:

Huss, I thought you were going to ask for a refund? As I stated earlier in this thread, I cancelled my M6 order.

Having learned (also from this thread) that the MP now comes with leatherette covers I was going to order one, (I prefer the MP rewind knob) once the scratching problem had been resolved, but when that will be, who knows?

The problem w the refund is the camera is with Leica NJ (USA HQ), while the seller is Leica Manchester in the UK.  I would have to get it back from Leica, to send to Leica...

The scratching issue seems to be completely random - the luck of the draw if you get a bad pressure plate.  And I don't think it will be resolved, just dealt with on a case by case basis because doing a little research, owners of MPs and M-As in years past have also been afflicted.  Most aren't, but some have been.

Edited February 22, 2023 by Huss

[Mike Rawcs]

Thanks, Huss, I'll probably bite the bullet and order an MP - when I receive my money back from the cancelled M6 order. 

[69xchange]

15 minutes ago, Mike Rawcs said:

Thanks, Huss, I'll probably bite the bullet and order an MP - when I receive my money back from the cancelled M6 order. 

Don’t get your hopes up too high, MP also has issues

[Anbaric]

14 hours ago, Huss said:

So here is a philosophical question, of sorts.  If your brand new camera is defective, and they replace the new defective parts with new parts.  Does that mean it is now a new new camera?

Or is this when we include the word spankin?  Brand spankin new M6?  

On ebay I believe the term is 'New+++!!!'

Edited February 22, 2023 by Anbaric

[Becf]

17 hours ago, Huss said:

Just got an update that yes, the ISO dial on my new M6 will also need to be replaced.  Waiting on parts for that too.

 

I can't decide if this whole ordeal is a comedy or a tragedy, I guess depending on the moment it is one or the other or both. I am sorry for your experience, I would have lost my cool long ago if I had to go through what you have had to deal with after dropping $5k on a piece of defective equipment.

I was able to wrap up my first roll of film on my 2023 M6 last Friday - I dropped it off on Saturday morning for developing and scanning and after waiting for the lab to open on Tuesday - I was super apprehensive about opening my scans to check for scratching, but the scans looked good. Knowing any defects could have been wiped clean with software, I knew I wouldn't really know for sure until I good inspect the negatives myself... Thankfully the film itself is free from any scratches, so you can add another M6 to the list of "working as expected".

[Huss]

11 minutes ago, Becf said:

I can't decide if this whole ordeal is a comedy or a tragedy, I guess depending on the moment it is one or the other or both. I am sorry for your experience, I would have lost my cool long ago if I had to go through what you have had to deal with after dropping $5k on a piece of defective equipment.

I was able to wrap up my first roll of film on my 2023 M6 last Friday - I dropped it off on Saturday morning for developing and scanning and after waiting for the lab to open on Tuesday - I was super apprehensive about opening my scans to check for scratching, but the scans looked good. Knowing any defects could have been wiped clean with software, I knew I wouldn't really know for sure until I good inspect the negatives myself... Thankfully the film itself is free from any scratches, so you can add another M6 to the list of "working as expected".

Sincerely happy to hear that.  Because a correctly working Leica M is just fantastic to use.  It’s why I (we?) put up with the hassles if they occur. 

[Huss]

I just received an email saying the camera has been repaired and will be on its way back to me.
It included the repair invoice for work performed.

There were two issues with the camera:
1/ Scratching film  needing a new pressure plate.

2/ ISO dial defective needing a new ISO dial.

On the invoice there was no mention of the ISO dial being repaired even though in previous communications they told me it was defective and they were waiting on parts.  I wrote back today pointing out that there was no mention that they repaired the ISO dial on the invoice they just sent.
I do not want to get this camera back half repaired.

Waiting for the reply.

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[madNbad]

 

9 minutes ago, Huss said:

I just received an email saying the camera has been repaired and will be on its way back to me.
It included the repair invoice for work performed.

There were two issues with the camera:
1/ Scratching film  needing a new pressure plate.

2/ ISO dial defective needing a new ISO dial.

On the invoice there was no mention of the ISO dial being repaired even though in previous communications they told me it was defective and they were waiting on parts.  I wrote back today pointing out that there was no mention that they repaired the ISO dial on the invoice they just sent.
I do not want to get this camera back half repaired.

Waiting for the reply.

But you will get a hand signed inspected by card when it does return! 

Edited February 22, 2023 by madNbad

[Steve Ricoh]

2 hours ago, Huss said:

I just received an email saying the camera has been repaired and will be on its way back to me.
It included the repair invoice for work performed.

There were two issues with the camera:
1/ Scratching film  needing a new pressure plate.

2/ ISO dial defective needing a new ISO dial.

On the invoice there was no mention of the ISO dial being repaired even though in previous communications they told me it was defective and they were waiting on parts.  I wrote back today pointing out that there was no mention that they repaired the ISO dial on the invoice they just sent.
I do not want to get this camera back half repaired.

Waiting for the reply.

I guess that’s another roll of your own film being sacrificed for DIY Quality Contol!