Visoflex 2 and hot shoe Leica M11

[noirblancgris]

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Hi
I tried to use 2 different Visoflex 2 on my Leica M11 and both did not work correctly.
They are not turned on, both.
They damaged the hot shoe of the M11 and required enormous pressure each time to be able to put them in place.
It is true that once put in place with force, they lit up.
I've seen videos where it seems quite easy to place them on the M11.
Has anyone had this kind of problem?
Since then, I give up using this accessory.

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[Photoworks]

I had some issues that it didn't work, and I have tested other in the store and that worked and the version I owned on a new M11 was giving problems.

I looks like the contact need cleaning often and then  it works fine.

I WAS NEVER HARD TO PUT ON. I would check with a flash or a trigger and see if you have the same problem, may be camera hotshoe side spring are the issue.

[noirblancgris]

My Leica M11 is brand new.

[jakontil]

slotting in was not too hard, slide in well but yeah my viso dont work no more, but i think the hotshoe was the problem since it worked fine on my m10r

[Keith (M)]

56 minutes ago, noirblancgris said:

Hi
I tried to use 2 different Visoflex 2 on my Leica M11 and both did not work correctly.
They are not turned on, both.
They damaged the hot shoe of the M11 and required enormous pressure each time to be able to put them in place.
It is true that once put in place with force, they lit up.
I've seen videos where it seems quite easy to place them on the M11.
Has anyone had this kind of problem?
Since then, I give up using this accessory.

 

The two copper-coloured pins on my Visoflex 2 depress very easily.  The relevant pin on yours presumably did not.  Do you still have the one that caused the damage?

[noirblancgris]

7 minutes ago, Keith (M) said:

The two copper-coloured pins on my Visoflex 2 depress very easily.  The relevant pin on yours presumably did not.  Do you still have the one that caused the damage?

No, I don't have them, my Leica dealer was absolutely great and took back the 2 Visoflex and also gave me a new M11 because the hot shoe has been damaged.
I won't by a Visoflex 2 anymore... but I just wanted to understand what happened.

[Gelatino]

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I would not stay on that bad experience with the visoflex2. You surely have been unlucky with the one(s) you got, but your Leica dealer did well changing both viso and body. 

IMO, EVF is a great help in some circumstances to overcome  limits of the RF system.

[DenverSteve]

First, I'm glad whatever caused your damage was handled by your Dealer.  I had not previously examined the contact pins on my Visoflex 2, but after reading your post, I did.  The two outside pins that mate with the rear two contacts on the M11 are the easiest contact pins to push that I've ever experienced. Mine require no pressure and offer no resistance.  They could, in no way, cause the damage you show, or any damage for that matter.  Additionally,  I see no possible way the pins could damage anything.  I'm more surprised that you found two different Visoflex 2s, in one store, that were both completely defective.  I can't even imagine, with the limited production of this accessory, that a single store had two, completely defective, Visoflex units that somehow failed final inspection and ended up at the same Leica store. Boggles the mind. 🤷‍♂️

Edited December 17, 2022 by DenverSteve

[noirblancgris]

8 hours ago, DenverSteve said:

First, I'm glad whatever caused your damage was handled by your Dealer.  I had not previously examined the contact pins on my Visoflex 2, but after reading your post, I did.  The two outside pins that mate with the rear two contacts on the M11 are the easiest contact pins to push that I've ever experienced. Mine require no pressure and offer no resistance.  They could, in no way, cause the damage you show, or any damage for that matter.  Additionally,  I see no possible way the pins could damage anything.  I'm more surprised that you found two different Visoflex 2s, in one store, that were both completely defective.  I can't even imagine, with the limited production of this accessory, that a single store had two, completely defective, Visoflex units that somehow failed final inspection and ended up at the same Leica store. Boggles the mind. 🤷‍♂️

Hello,
Thank you for your answer.
I called my Leica dealer, and he thinks that the hot shoe of this M11 is perhaps in question, it must have a defect.
I don't see what, but he may be right...
Two Visoflex not working in the same store is quite strange indeed... you're right.

[lct]

On 12/16/2022 at 1:54 PM, noirblancgris said:

They damaged the hot shoe of the M11 and required enormous pressure each time to be able to put them in place. [...] I've seen videos where it seems quite easy to place them on the M11. Has anyone had this kind of problem?

My Viso 2 fits perfectly but my M11 is not damaged contrary to yours. Incredible that you got that damaged a hotshoe on delivery but i would quit using any accessory on it as long as it is not repaired. And please, never force you can only aggravate things.

Edited December 17, 2022 by lct

[Jeff S]

4 hours ago, lct said:

…but i would quit using any accessory on it as long as it is not repaired.

Dealer gave him a new M11.

Jeff