50 Summilux ASPH mk2

[Alexander-HH]

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vor 14 Minuten schrieb oldwino:

Do Voigtlander have any lenses with floating elements? It doesn't seem to be their thing. 

The new 50 / 1.0 and also the 21 / 1.4 🙂

edit: and the 35 + 50 Apo-Lanthars as well as correctly stated below 👍

Edited November 17, 2022 by Alexander-HH

[FrozenInTime]

7 minutes ago, oldwino said:

Do Voigtlander have any lenses with floating elements? It doesn't seem to be their thing. 

The 35 and 50mm APO-Lanthars do 

https://www.cosina.co.jp/voigtlander/en/vm-mount/apo-lanthar-35mm-f2-aspherical/

https://www.cosina.co.jp/voigtlander/en/vm-mount/apo-lanthar-50mm-f2-aspherical/

[jplomley]

I'm still trying to figure out what's wrong with my 13 year old 50 Lux-Asph that would make me want to upgrade???

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[lct]

What could make me want to upgrade is downsizing the lens in the first place. I don't hold my breath though as i have the feeling that each new variant of Leica M lens is taller than its predecessor. 50/1.4 v3 and asph below. Closeup capabilities and less ninja star bokeh would be welcome too but in a larger package thanks no thanks. YMMV. 

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[evikne]

And a scalloped focus ring like the one on the Black Chrome edition is too much to hope for I guess.

[mediumformula]

I'm looking forward to seeing what Leica does to an updated Summilux 50, but honestly I am not sure there is much they could do to want me to upgrade from the current Asph.  I don't think I want a more clinically perfect optical formula.  As others have said the current Lux does a good job of having great optics plus some character at wide open.  The only thing I would improve about the current lens would be its size/weight.  

[eyeheartny]

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They better not release it anytime soon. They can’t even produce the 35 Lux v2 because of quality issues, they can’t make the 35 APO in remotely reasonable quantities (so stupid to release a lens you can’t actually sell without absurd wait times), and their quality control overall needs some real help. They need to focus on producing the lenses they’ve already released before stretching themselves even more thin than they already are. 

[farnz]

The 50/1.4 Summilux asph "black chrome" was all the 'update' I needed. 

E43, instead of E46, filter thread that produces a delicate wide-open Noctilux-like vignette that appeals to me, chrome finish, and buttery-smooth focussing ring. 

If Leica added "APO" to the name I'm not sure where they would significantly improve the lens's performance and it would add thousands to the price.

Pete.

(Now that Leica has confirmed that "APO" no longer means apochromatic or ensures that three wavelengths of light from the subject are coincident in the image's plane of focus.)

[eyeheartny]

14 minutes ago, farnz said:

(Now that Leica has confirmed that "APO" no longer means apochromatic or ensures that three wavelengths of light from the subject are coincident in the image's plane of focus.)

Wait what? When did they confirm that??

[farnz]

9 hours ago, eyeheartny said:

Wait what? When did they confirm that??

I was also disappointed.  I recall a statement in an interview with either Stephan Daniel or Peter Karbe, it might have been with Thorsten Overgaard, to the effect that in 'Leica-speak' "APO" no longer means apochromatically corrected but now means the highest optical performance.  (This might, of course, actually mean apochromatically corrected plus better correction of, say, spherical aberrations etc to produce the highest optical performance but that wasn't made clear.)

I have searched for the interviews but without success so the above is my paraphrase, not a quote.  At the time I rather got the impression that Leica's marketing department had purloined the term "APO" for its own purposes presumably to keep up with the Joneses, who use it far more liberally than its original definition in order to attract sales.

Sorry to be the bearer of unwelcome news and others might be able to offer substance.

Pete.

[lct]

41 minutes ago, farnz said:

I have searched for the interviews but without success so the above is my paraphrase, not a quote.

For the first quote, seemingly, see:

https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/325136-jonathan-slack-leica-apo-m-lenses/

 

[farnz]

3 hours ago, lct said:

For the first quote, seemingly, see:

https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/325136-jonathan-slack-leica-apo-m-lenses/

 

Thanks, LCT, I think Jono's thread deals with what Leica means by "APO" pretty well, which still remains unclear I think, but their meaning has changed from what it used to be, ie (just) corrected for lateral chromatic aberration.

Pete.