Guytou Posted October 19, 2022 Share #21 Posted October 19, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) I think the SF 20 is also an interesting choice with the CL. But maybe it won't work in TTL on the CL (have a try). Hence the remark made on the use of flash in the CL manual on page 95. However, it will be usable in auto and manual, which is still sufficient in most cases. A little test here: https://erickoke.wordpress.com/2020/06/27/leica-sf20-flash-photography-review-by-erickphoto/ Guytou 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dopaco Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share #22 Posted October 19, 2022 5 hours ago, Guytou said: I think the SF 20 is also an interesting choice with the CL. But maybe it won't work in TTL on the CL (have a try). Hence the remark made on the use of flash in the CL manual on page 95. However, it will be usable in auto and manual, which is still sufficient in most cases. A little test here: https://erickoke.wordpress.com/2020/06/27/leica-sf20-flash-photography-review-by-erickphoto/ Guytou In the TL2 manual it says the same thing, that's why I hadn't noticed and was looking for the SF24 d, I found one for €211 with shipping costs included but the page didn't seem reliable and I discarded it. On ebay the prices of the SF24d were very high, in the end I found the SF20 on Ebay at a price that seemed more reasonable to me, with the advantage that if I don't like it I can return it. Thanks for the help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guytou Posted October 19, 2022 Share #23 Posted October 19, 2022 Hello Dopaco, You're right, I also looked on Ebay and the prices are really crazy for an SF 24 ! Especially for a flash that is starting to date... The SF 20 should suit you. I had thought of buying myself an SF 40 and selling my SF 24. But since I don't use it much, it's quite complete and its size is small, I'll probably keep it. Guytou 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopaco Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share #24 Posted October 20, 2022 23 hours ago, Guytou said: Hello Dopaco, You're right, I also looked on Ebay and the prices are really crazy for an SF 24 ! Especially for a flash that is starting to date... The SF 20 should suit you. I had thought of buying myself an SF 40 and selling my SF 24. But since I don't use it much, it's quite complete and its size is small, I'll probably keep it. Guytou I have seen second hand SF24d's on Ebay at higher prices than new SF40's, but of course they are still there unsold. The SF24d on Ebay are few for sale and the manual is not easy to get, (surely Leica put few units for sale or it is so good that nobody wants to sell it). Of the SF20 without being cheap on Ebay there are more units for sale and the manual is easy to get and in several languages. Physically the two units look the same, in the internal software there must be some changes, from what I have read, they are not very important. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guytou Posted October 20, 2022 Share #25 Posted October 20, 2022 Yes, the SF 20s on Ebay are more decently priced than the SF 24. Especially since this SF 20 takes up many of the characteristics of the 24. For a simple fill flash, it should suit your needs. Guytou 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopaco Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share #26 Posted October 23, 2022 (edited) El 19/10/2022 a las 11:54, Guytou dijo: Edited October 23, 2022 by Dopaco Borrar Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopaco Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share #27 Posted October 23, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) On Friday I received the Flash SF20 that I had ordered. I have tried all 3 modes: 1.- TTL mode, I think it doesn't work on my TL2 camera, or at least I haven't been able to configure it. (An intermittent A comes out and nothing else). 2:- Mode A, (Automatic), in this mode it works fine and it does what I want and it was easy to configure it. 3.- Mode M. (Manual), It also works, it is somewhat more difficult and slow to configure, so most of the time I will use mode A. I'm pretty sure I'll stick with it, it's lightweight and looks good on these small cameras. (TL2.) When I can I will do tests with flahs and without flahs and I will show. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/340039-has-anyone-tried-a-flash-with-cl-or-tl2/?do=findComment&comment=4543301'>More sharing options...
Guytou Posted October 24, 2022 Share #28 Posted October 24, 2022 This SF 20 is nice ! The dimensions and the rear screen are identical to the SF 24 and it is not bulky. For occasional use, you can do without TTL mode, mode A should suit you. Guytou 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopaco Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share #29 Posted October 24, 2022 Yes, the physical features are the same as the SF24d, but the software features have been slightly improved in favor of the SF24d. Thanks to you and others for the help offered. Greetings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopaco Posted October 25, 2022 Author Share #30 Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) Para un flash manual, LightPix Q20II es una solución pequeña, económica e ingeniosa. GN es solo 20 (en ISO 100). Parece funcionar bien con CL, TL2. amazon.com...: https://www.amazon.com/s?me=A3F19T9NV0K37Y&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER Edited October 25, 2022 by Dopaco Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guytou Posted October 26, 2022 Share #31 Posted October 26, 2022 Yes, it seems interesting this little flash. Too bad that its use is almost manual. But I was able to read from user feedback that it worked randomly with certain devices... Guytou Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopaco Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share #32 Posted October 26, 2022 I really like it, it's new, it's light, it has features that others don't, and an affordable price. It is made to work manually, so it has features that make it easy to use. It has limitations but is in the line of smaller flashes with fewer features and higher prices. Technical Specification Guide Number 20 (at ISO 100) Focal length coverage: 32mm (on 35mm format) Manual flash power ratio control (7 steps adjustable, 1 /64 to 1 /1) LED video light (7 steps adjustable, Max. 60 lux output at 1 m) 2.4GHz low-power digital radio, 10 meters wireless operating range Tiltable flash head, up to 90° and with click-stops at 0°, 45°, 60°, 75°, 90° Other functions: S1 / S2 optical slave, modeling light (LED) Transmitter per charge: 80 hours operation and 120 days standby Two AA-size alkaline / rechargeable Ni-MH batteries for Q20 main body Recycling time (1 /1 full power output): 6 sec. by Ni-MH batteries / 7 sec. by fresh alkaline batteries Number of flashes: 100 – 2000 flashes LED lighting time: approx. 1 hour (at full power LED output and by Ni-MH batteries) Flash color temperature: 5600K±200K (same as daylight) LED color temperature: 5500K±300K, CRI 95 Dedicated socket for FlashQ Transmitter attachment Dimensions: 59(W) x 99(H) x 29(D) mm (including FlashQ Transmitter) Weight : 115g (without battery) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdHox Posted November 12, 2022 Share #33 Posted November 12, 2022 I went for the inexpensive option - I bought a new SF-40, which gives me a few features that the smaller units lack, and cost less than is being asked for a used SF-24D. I’m not a huge user of flash, but there are times when it helps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopaco Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share #34 Posted November 21, 2022 With the Flash SF 20 in Auto (A) mode and the FlashQ Q20II that I bought new at an affordable price, I have enough. Both are easy to set up, just read the manual carefully, once you get it the camera will always recognize it. On the fly a small example SF 20: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/340039-has-anyone-tried-a-flash-with-cl-or-tl2/?do=findComment&comment=4572786'>More sharing options...
Dopaco Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share #35 Posted November 21, 2022 On the fly a small example SF 20: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/340039-has-anyone-tried-a-flash-with-cl-or-tl2/?do=findComment&comment=4572796'>More sharing options...
Dopaco Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share #36 Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) FlashQ Q20II: This Flash is somewhat smaller than the SF20 and SF24 and is fully manual and very versatile. See videos and information here: https://www.lightpixlabs.com/pages/q20ii Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited November 21, 2022 by Dopaco Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/340039-has-anyone-tried-a-flash-with-cl-or-tl2/?do=findComment&comment=4572801'>More sharing options...
Dopaco Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share #37 Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) Practice builds fluency and the Q20II can have many applications and is cheaply priced. Edited November 21, 2022 by Dopaco 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpclee Posted November 24, 2022 Share #38 Posted November 24, 2022 On 10/11/2022 at 6:55 PM, Dopaco said: If yes, what FLASH did you use? In the TL2 manual they recommend the Leica SF 40, SF 64, SF58 system flashes. Other Leica system flash devices, except Leica SF 20. Information on this is appreciated... I've used both the SF20 and SF64. With the SF20, you use the A mode on the flash which essentially functions the same as it would on any other camera. There is no communications between the flash and the body and the flash power (duration) is controlled by the flash. With the SF64 you get full TTL. Plug and play / full automation. The flash unit is of course too large for the tiny CL body. I can recommend the SF24D as a compact flash. It is almost identical to the SF20 (e.g. you'll still use the A mode) but it has more refined control increments that will make it a lot easier / faster to dial in under or over exposure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guytou Posted November 25, 2022 Share #39 Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, cpclee said: ...I can recommend the SF24D as a compact flash. It is almost identical to the SF20 (e.g. you'll still use the A mode) but it has more refined control increments that will make it a lot easier / faster to dial in under or over exposure. Yes, there are other small flashes that can work with the CL, but manual or auto mode. The SF 40 is excellent but still perhaps a little too bulky in my opinion. As I have already mentioned, the SF 24 D is a very handy little flash that goes well with the CL. For less frequent use, it is ideal and also works perfectly in TTL mode. The hardest part is finding one at a decent price... Guytou Edited November 25, 2022 by Guytou 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpclee Posted November 25, 2022 Share #40 Posted November 25, 2022 17 hours ago, Guytou said: Yes, there are other small flashes that can work with the CL, but manual or auto mode. The SF 40 is excellent but still perhaps a little too bulky in my opinion. As I have already mentioned, the SF 24 D is a very handy little flash that goes well with the CL. For less frequent use, it is ideal and also works perfectly in TTL mode. The hardest part is finding one at a decent price... Guytou I think neither the SF20 nor the SF24D can work with the CL in TTL mode. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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