Harpomatic Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share #21 Posted September 22, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 8 minutes ago, elmars said: I've never counted how many frames it takes in continuous mode before the buffer is full. But what you hear in the movie doesn't seem unusual to me. Does the red LED blink when the camera slows down? That's the sign that it still needs time to save. The M10-R has the M10 as its technical basis, so it is designed to process 24 MP. The larger volume of data per image on the M10-R overtaxes the processor and the buffer faster. The M11 can do better, especially at resolutions of 36 MP and 18 MP. Thanks for the info, I'm aware of all that, but this shouldn't affect the first few shots. but I guess I'm expecting Leica to deliver products we don't have to wait for, given that they are made for professional standards. Is that expectation unrealistic? The M10, M-P 240, but even the normal M240 never had the issue. I used them with no problems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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M Street Photographer Posted September 22, 2022 Share #22 Posted September 22, 2022 If not, go to a shop and compare with another M 10 R. My camera meets your needs, so I don't think your camera is defective. Some setting is impeding their process. Is wifi off? No LV, no Visoflex mounted? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpomatic Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share #23 Posted September 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, M Street Photographer said: When I shoot street, that's how I do it too, multiple shots in single mode. I checked it again under my test conditions. I've now taken 10 shots and found no lag. If I press the shutter button immediately, one after the other in single mode, it goes 10 times without a break. A second test under the same conditions, the camera took 17 shots (RAW and Jpeg), then stopped to read out the buffer. I think that's normal. My last idea would be your SD card, please test with a 300MB Prograde or Sony card. That is what I would want to have! What you describe is what I expect. I'll have to source such card and see. Thnaks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpomatic Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share #24 Posted September 22, 2022 Just now, M Street Photographer said: If not, go to a shop and compare with another M 10 R. My camera meets your needs, so I don't think your camera is defective. Some setting is impeding their process. Is wifi off? No LV, no Visoflex mounted? All off, no LV, no EVF. I'll go to Leica Mayfair and check, also I'll try a faster card as you suggest. Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Street Photographer Posted September 22, 2022 Share #25 Posted September 22, 2022 Last but not least, an idea: Are you using an M mount lens? So no adapted? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpomatic Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share #26 Posted September 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, M Street Photographer said: Last but not least, an idea: Are you using an M mount lens? So no adapted? Summicron-M 50mm version 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Street Photographer Posted September 22, 2022 Share #27 Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Normally, the buffer is first written full and then transferred to the card. Now, unfortunately, I don't know 100% whether the M10 R doesn't have a progress record. This means that the card is already being written to during the release. If this is not the case, the card would not matter. Another test please: You have a 2 GB memory in the camera. How fast is the release without a card, that means if you only write to the 2 GB memory. Edited September 22, 2022 by M Street Photographer Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2022 Share #28 Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) @Harpomatic OK just got my M10-R out and tried it on continuous high speed. I’m getting 7 - 10 shots in a burst and then 2 - 3 shot bursts. Tried this several times with pretty much the same results. SD card used EDIT: forgot to mention those results are DNG + JPG. Edited September 22, 2022 by OThomas Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpomatic Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share #29 Posted September 22, 2022 11 minutes ago, M Street Photographer said: Normally, the buffer is first written full and then transferred to the card. Now, unfortunately, I don't know 100% whether the M10 R doesn't have a progress record. This means that the card is already being written to during the release. If this is not the case, the card would not matter. Another test please: You have a 2 GB memory in the camera. How fast is the release without a card, that means if you only write to the 2 GB memory. I tried it with no card already, and it doesn't change at all. I do really wonder if there is a problem somewhere on this camera Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpomatic Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share #30 Posted September 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, OThomas said: @Harpomatic OK just got my M10-R out and tried it on continuous high speed. I’m getting 7 - 10 shots in a burst and then 2 - 3 shot bursts. Tried this several times with pretty much the same results. SD card used EDIT: forgot to mention those results are DNG + JPG. Thanks for the link, I used exactly the same card to test. I'll keep testing and see what I come up with Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Street Photographer Posted September 22, 2022 Share #31 Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) I am very sorry that you have to go through this experience. Unfortunately, I then have no idea what else you could try. I would now call the service in Wetzlar and discuss the problem, or go to a camera shop and compare it with another M 10 R. Unfortunately, a hardware defect cannot be ruled out. But please keep one thing in mind: the camera, if it is ok, will meet all your requirements, changing it should be considered carefully, because you would miss the fantastic sensor. Color photos are almost slide-like, the noise is analogue, organic, and for me the M10 R comes close to the imaging of the CCD M9 in an almost ideal way. Edited September 22, 2022 by M Street Photographer Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2022 Share #32 Posted September 22, 2022 38 minutes ago, Harpomatic said: I'll go to Leica Mayfair and check Maybe the best option to take, they’ll be able to tell you if it’s faulty and, if you bought it from them, either change it or get it repaired under warranty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpomatic Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share #33 Posted September 22, 2022 32 minutes ago, OThomas said: Maybe the best option to take, they’ll be able to tell you if it’s faulty and, if you bought it from them, either change it or get it repaired under warranty. I think so. We'll see what they tell me. Thanks all for the help! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2022 Share #34 Posted September 22, 2022 @Harpomatic no problem Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted September 22, 2022 Share #35 Posted September 22, 2022 Flavio, perhaps try formatting the cards using sdformatter? It worked for me a while ago (good old M9 times...), making the write times definitely snappier. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpomatic Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share #36 Posted September 22, 2022 43 minutes ago, Ecar said: Flavio, perhaps try formatting the cards using sdformatter? It worked for me a while ago (good old M9 times...), making the write times definitely snappier. Hi Ecar, thanks for the suggestion. Is it this one? https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter/ I’ll definitely try that! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted September 22, 2022 Share #37 Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) Yup, that's the one. Edit: IIRC, there are several formatting speeds. The slowest one (bit by bit) takes forever but there's a faster and equally effective option. Edited September 22, 2022 by Ecar Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesphoto99 Posted September 22, 2022 Share #38 Posted September 22, 2022 Using a Sandisk 64GB Ultra card I got approx 14 shots off in single mode as quickly as I could before slowing down, and seven in continuous high before taking a brief breather. In guess the takeaway is don't use in high continuous but use single shot mode. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpomatic Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share #39 Posted September 22, 2022 31 minutes ago, Ecar said: Yup, that's the one. Edit: IIRC, there are several formatting speeds. The slowest one (bit by bit) takes forever but there's a faster and equally effective option. Right, it made no difference at all. Worth a try! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpomatic Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share #40 Posted September 22, 2022 This is what happens when I try to shoot fast with single shot mode: M10r single shot mode.m4a Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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