tashley Posted May 2, 2022 Share #1 Posted May 2, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Perspective corrections are very useful - they allow you to preview what you'll get later in LR and therefore you can compose the frame so that there's enough 'room at the top' for your subject not to be cropped. But you don't always have with you a wide enough lens, to the ability to stand where required, to get the exact shot you want. Add to this the fact that lens corrections might with some lenses cause even more of a crop later, assuming they are ever correctly supported. So here's a fun game. Image one: as shot DNG, uncorrected for anything: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/332081-mayday-holiday-fun-with-perspective-corrections/?do=findComment&comment=4428048'>More sharing options...
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tashley Posted May 2, 2022 Author Share #2 Posted May 2, 2022 Step 2: apply Auto in Geometry (the file was shot with persepective correction On in camera) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/332081-mayday-holiday-fun-with-perspective-corrections/?do=findComment&comment=4428049'>More sharing options...
tashley Posted May 2, 2022 Author Share #3 Posted May 2, 2022 (edited) Step 3: Send to Photoshop for editing and then convert the background layer to Normal by selecting the arrow move tool and moving the image downwards in the frame so as to leave more space for the sky. Then use the magic wand to select the blank area: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited May 2, 2022 by tashley Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/332081-mayday-holiday-fun-with-perspective-corrections/?do=findComment&comment=4428050'>More sharing options...
tashley Posted May 2, 2022 Author Share #4 Posted May 2, 2022 Step 4: Select Edit>Content Aware Fill and then paint out all of the buildings and trees so that only sky is used as reference for the fill. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/332081-mayday-holiday-fun-with-perspective-corrections/?do=findComment&comment=4428052'>More sharing options...
tashley Posted May 2, 2022 Author Share #5 Posted May 2, 2022 (edited) Step 5: Press Apply and then save the file back to LR so that you have this... the same file but with more magic sky added so as to to crowd the top of the buildings less. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited May 2, 2022 by tashley Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/332081-mayday-holiday-fun-with-perspective-corrections/?do=findComment&comment=4428053'>More sharing options...
tashley Posted May 2, 2022 Author Share #6 Posted May 2, 2022 Step 6: season to taste - and since its a holiday let's go overboard.... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/332081-mayday-holiday-fun-with-perspective-corrections/?do=findComment&comment=4428055'>More sharing options...
tashley Posted May 2, 2022 Author Share #7 Posted May 2, 2022 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Tip: don't bother forcing LR to do lens corrections by spoofing it into thinking that the file is from an M10-R because if you do that and then apply auto geometry you get very strange results! Edited May 2, 2022 by tashley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted May 2, 2022 Share #8 Posted May 2, 2022 Did you try geometry correction based on in-camera data (Perspective Control)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tashley Posted May 2, 2022 Author Share #9 Posted May 2, 2022 Just now, SrMi said: Did you try geometry correction based on in-camera data (Perspective Control)? That’s the entire point of the thread! Unless you’re referring to the spoofed file, where I have expressed myself badly and will correct it now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted May 2, 2022 Share #10 Posted May 2, 2022 Just now, tashley said: That’s the entire point of the thread! Unless you’re referring to the spoofed file, where I have expressed myself badly and will correct it now. Selecting "Auto" does not apply in-camera PC data. You must select "Guided". 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted May 2, 2022 Share #11 Posted May 2, 2022 Or getter a higher vantage point so you can use SOOC 😉 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M240-P + 21SEM 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M240-P + 21SEM ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/332081-mayday-holiday-fun-with-perspective-corrections/?do=findComment&comment=4428068'>More sharing options...
tashley Posted May 2, 2022 Author Share #12 Posted May 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, NigelG said: Or getter a higher vantage point so you can use SOOC 😉 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M240-P + 21SEM Brilliant! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted May 2, 2022 Share #13 Posted May 2, 2022 (edited) Sorry - in know it was OT! Very interested in in-camera PC as an architect and it's missing on my M240-P and M60s. Looking at switching a body to an M10-P or M10R to use this as I don't enjoy post-processing much... Edit - foggy and rainy here today so the view is pretty obscured. Edited May 2, 2022 by NigelG 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tashley Posted May 2, 2022 Author Share #14 Posted May 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, NigelG said: Sorry - in know it was OT! Very interested in in-camera PC as an architect and it's missing on my M240-P and M60s. Looking at switching a body to an M10-P or M10R to use this as I don't enjoy post-processing much... Edit - foggy and rainy here today so the view is pretty obscured. I only left there on Saturday. I have to say that whilst perspective control is pretty useful as a preview and therefore framing aid, I generally end up doing it manually when it comes to the processing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
idusidusi Posted May 2, 2022 Share #15 Posted May 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, tashley said: I only left there on Saturday. I have to say that whilst perspective control is pretty useful as a preview and therefore framing aid, I generally end up doing it manually when it comes to the processing. Yes Capture One is doing that pretty well for me much to my pleasant surprise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted May 2, 2022 Share #16 Posted May 2, 2022 (edited) Quote : I only left there on Saturday. I have to say that whilst perspective control is pretty useful as a preview and therefore framing aid, I generally end up doing it manually when it comes to the processing. Agreed - but it's looks like a great aid to framing pre-processing. OT again it's such a shame the TL2 body/firmware never got developed to the point it could gain this. I have gravitated to a TL2 + 11-23 with the tilting visoflex 020 as my "Architectural" camera. Enough resolution for me and much much lighter that a Canon w "true" PC lenses... Edited May 2, 2022 by NigelG 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tashley Posted May 2, 2022 Author Share #17 Posted May 2, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Al Brown said: Forgive me for saying so but you used zero of the acquired in-camera data as Srdjan mentioned correctly above... the AUTO in Geometry does not bring forth the information from the camera. The GUIDED does. Last setting on the right. Also, there is a much, much faster way to add missing sky. One quick fix for example is the "one-click" content aware fill. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! That's so interesting - and useful. When the new FW came out I did a few searches to see which was the correct answer and read somewhere that it was Auto, but because I then went away and was travelling with an iPad I thought I'd leave proper experimentation for when I was back on a big screen. Today I have been doing that and was using the Auto settings that I'd applied on my iPad because it was all in the cloud already. So I looked at the FW release notes but they were in Germlish, though they do say to use With Auxiliary Lines setting, which I should have guessed translates as Guided. But here's an interesting thing: I just went outside and shot the same scene at the same moderately raked angle with PC turned on and turned off in camera and then imported both files into LR an Lo! If you click Guided, you get the same result on both. It seems as if maybe the camera is recording the data and sending it to LR regardless and that selecting PC in camera merely affects the framing assist and image review functions rather than changing the file? Also in many online sources it seems to state that the PC is automatically applied when you import the files into LR Bert that isn't happening for me. I wonder if that's because of some preferences setting somewhere - though I find the same thing on my iPads and on Mac with LR or LRC. In any event if you spoof the M11 file to look like an M10-R file so that you can get lens corrections, you then can't use the Guided function. The Good Lord Giveth.... Per the One Click content aware fill, do you mean in PS, Select> Shift+ Backspace? If so, I am aware of that but I generally prefer to go the longer way around because it seems to generate slightly better results. I might be wrong. Here's it done your way from soup to nuts: Edited May 2, 2022 by tashley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erudolph Posted May 2, 2022 Share #18 Posted May 2, 2022 To get the PC settings applied automatically on import to LightRoom Classic, in Preferences>Presets>Global check “Override global settings for specific cameras” and for the Leica M11 select “Camera Settings” rather than Adobe Default. If you leave Adobe Default as the import setting, you can then turn perspective correction on by selecting Guided in the Transform panel. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tashley Posted May 2, 2022 Author Share #19 Posted May 2, 2022 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Al Brown said: Nice result. It does not matter if the PC is turned off or on for RAW DNG files. The info is always there for "Guided". It matters only for jpegs to show immediate results in camera. Very useful to know. And that also explains why oddly my M11 DNGs are prepopulated with guide lines at the edges, though this can be really irritating on an iPad because they can get ‘outside’ of the area where you can move them. Edited May 2, 2022 by tashley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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