Masa Posted October 11, 2022 Share #41  Posted October 11, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) WATE @18mm, SL2, ISO6400, 5shot stock Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/332072-lenses-for-astrophotography/?do=findComment&comment=4530064'>More sharing options...
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LarsHP Posted October 11, 2022 Share #42  Posted October 11, 2022 Among the M lenses I have tried that would do the best for astro, I'd suggest the 90mm Apo-Summicron-M and the Voigtländer 28mm Ultron II. Both have almost completely flat field. The Ultron is free of coma already at f/2.4. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted October 12, 2022 Share #43 Â Posted October 12, 2022 This is a timely thread as I have a trip coming up. Need some suggestions as to which of these lenses would be best - 21 SEM, 28 Summicron, 35 Ultron f/2, 50 Summilux ASPH. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hausen17 Posted May 29, 2023 Share #44  Posted May 29, 2023 Hi all, Sorry to resurrect this thread but I am doing an Astro course in July here in NZ. I have the M11 and was looking at the VC 21 1.4. Has anyone any thoughts on the vignetting on M11? Does using an in camera profile help? have the WATE but concerned it isn’t fast enough. I also have the Q2 and wondered if I don’t just use that for the Astro Course. Not very wide but fast. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavu Posted May 29, 2023 Share #45  Posted May 29, 2023 Hausen17, I took an astrophotography class last summer. For Milky Way photography around Moab, Utah I used my M11 with a rented Summilux-M 21mm lens. Others in our group used the same lens on SL2/SL2-S bodies. Our instructor used an L mount Sigma 14mm f/1.8 art lens described here (https://www.photohaus.de/shop/sigma-14mm-f18-dg-hsm-art-l-mount). The M11/Summilux 21 was a superb combination in my humble estimation. Each of us in the class created a user profile for a quick baseline of settings that could be tweaked as required. Best of luck. I enjoyed my class and plan to do it again in another location. Attached pic in Canyonlands National Park outside Moab, Utah. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/332072-lenses-for-astrophotography/?do=findComment&comment=4782200'>More sharing options...
Hausen17 Posted May 29, 2023 Share #46  Posted May 29, 2023 52 minutes ago, Cavu said: Hausen17, I took an astrophotography class last summer. For Milky Way photography around Moab, Utah I used my M11 with a rented Summilux-M 21mm lens. Others in our group used the same lens on SL2/SL2-S bodies. Our instructor used an L mount Sigma 14mm f/1.8 art lens described here (https://www.photohaus.de/shop/sigma-14mm-f18-dg-hsm-art-l-mount). The M11/Summilux 21 was a superb combination in my humble estimation. Each of us in the class created a user profile for a quick baseline of settings that could be tweaked as required. Best of luck. I enjoyed my class and plan to do it again in another location. Attached pic in Canyonlands National Park outside Moab, Utah. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Thanks so much for the response. Cool pic, I love silhouettes. I am doing my course in Lake Tekapo region here in NZ which is a Dark Sky reserve so looking forward to it. I will look into the Sigma lens. I am reluctant to go out and grab the Summilux until I know I am going to be into it going forward. I also have the Q2 and might just make do with 28mm. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavu Posted May 29, 2023 Share #47  Posted May 29, 2023 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) I’ve attached the camera settings I used FYI. One person in our group brought either a Q or Q2. It had some limitations, I think related to how much of the scene could be captured. I rented the Summilux, and may buy it in the future. I’m hooked on learning more about astrophotography. Good luck! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited May 29, 2023 by Cavu Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/332072-lenses-for-astrophotography/?do=findComment&comment=4782217'>More sharing options...
RexGig0 Posted May 29, 2023 Share #48  Posted May 29, 2023 (edited) 21 hours ago, Hausen17 said: Hi all, Sorry to resurrect this thread but I am doing an Astro course in July here in NZ. I have the M11 and was looking at the VC 21 1.4. Has anyone any thoughts on the vignetting on M11? Does using an in camera profile help? have the WATE but concerned it isn’t fast enough. I also have the Q2 and wondered if I don’t just use that for the Astro Course. Not very wide but fast. I bought my Voigtlander Cosina 21mm f/1.4 Nokton VM about a year ago, after part of my internet research found at least one source that indicated this was a quite good night sky lens. Unfortunately, I cannot recall the source, and, I have yet to use my Nokton for night sky shooting, and do not (yet) have an M11, so, cannot provide practical advice. I wish that I could be more helpful, but, if I found the information, on-line, it should be search-able. I do hope to finally get away, in June or July, from the big cities and metro areas, and oil production infrastructure, that makes night sky shooting so difficult, here in SE Texas. Edited May 29, 2023 by RexGig0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Morgan Posted June 15, 2023 Share #49  Posted June 15, 2023 (edited) Thanks for the reviews! I too am in the hunt for a wide angle lens for my M11 for astro/northern lights. I use my M11 with my only M lens (50mm Summicron v4) as my second astro rig (using the Sony A7r3 with a 12-24mm f2.8 or the 24 f1.4 as my primary). I'm particularly interested in vignetting and coma performance of the 28mm Summicron (yes, likely least vignetting and coma, but a f2...), 28mm Summilux, 24mm Summilux, and 21mm Summilux. Any insight is welcome - including any testing folks have done or links to video or written comparisons. Thanks!  Image with M11 and 50mm Summicron - not really "Astro" but at night with a faint aurora. f2, iso3200, 4 seconds for the sky. f5.6, iso 400, 300 seconds for the foreground and water.   Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited June 15, 2023 by Patrick Morgan 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/332072-lenses-for-astrophotography/?do=findComment&comment=4794730'>More sharing options...
david strachan Posted June 16, 2023 Share #50  Posted June 16, 2023 On 5/29/2023 at 10:51 AM, Cavu said: Hausen17, I took an astrophotography class last summer. For Milky Way photography around Moab, Utah I used my M11 with a rented Summilux-M 21mm lens. Others in our group used the same lens on SL2/SL2-S bodies. Our instructor used an L mount Sigma 14mm f/1.8 art lens described here (https://www.photohaus.de/shop/sigma-14mm-f18-dg-hsm-art-l-mount). The M11/Summilux 21 was a superb combination in my humble estimation. Each of us in the class created a user profile for a quick baseline of settings that could be tweaked as required. Best of luck. I enjoyed my class and plan to do it again in another location. Attached pic in Canyonlands National Park outside Moab, Utah. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Super pic Cavu...rest of the Forum must be asleep. Quite a bit to set up by one person. Well done, and cheers. ... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarsHP Posted June 16, 2023 Share #51  Posted June 16, 2023 10 hours ago, Patrick Morgan said: Thanks for the reviews! I too am in the hunt for a wide angle lens for my M11 for astro/northern lights. I use my M11 with my only M lens (50mm Summicron v4) as my second astro rig (using the Sony A7r3 with a 12-24mm f2.8 or the 24 f1.4 as my primary). I'm particularly interested in vignetting and coma performance of the 28mm Summicron (yes, likely least vignetting and coma, but a f2...), 28mm Summilux, 24mm Summilux, and 21mm Summilux. Any insight is welcome - including any testing folks have done or links to video or written comparisons. Thanks! Image with M11 and 50mm Summicron - not really "Astro" but at night with a faint aurora. f2, iso3200, 4 seconds for the sky. f5.6, iso 400, 300 seconds for the foreground and water. The current Voigtländer Ultron 28mm f/2 has a lot going for it regarding astro. Coma is practically gone already at f/2.4 and there is no field curvature all the way into the corners. Vignetting is a bit higher than the Summicron v2 wide open (but less when stopped down to f/4 or more), but that's its only drawback, IMO. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BastianK Posted June 16, 2023 Share #52  Posted June 16, 2023 (edited) For Northern Lights 28mm is not wide enough by a long stretch, especially as you cannot stitch a pano, which would be possible for milky way. New Laowa 15mm 2.0 for M-mount is the way to go, alternatively Voigtländer VM 21mm 1.4 or 1.8. This was 14mm @ 2.8, 4s, ISO6400 - at the time I took this shot faster lenses didn't exist yet. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited June 16, 2023 by BastianK 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/332072-lenses-for-astrophotography/?do=findComment&comment=4794989'>More sharing options...
Patrick Morgan Posted June 16, 2023 Share #53  Posted June 16, 2023 1 hour ago, BastianK said: For Northern Lights 28mm is not wide enough by a long stretch, especially as you cannot stitch a pano, which would be possible for milky way. New Laowa 15mm 2.0 for M-mount is the way to go, alternatively Voigtländer VM 21mm 1.4 or 1.8. This was 14mm @ 2.8, 4s, ISO6400 - at the time I took this shot faster lenses didn't exist yet. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Thanks! Personally, I'm looking to use my M11 as a secondary camera for northern lights. I primary is a Sony a7riii with a 12-24 (super wide) or 24 f1.4. So, I don't mind having a narrower field of view since my goal is not to replicate images from my primary night time / landscape camera. I appreciate the suggestion. I never considered the Laowa 15mm f2. I'll have to look into that. Also, beautiful image. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarsHP Posted June 18, 2023 Share #54 Â Posted June 18, 2023 On 6/16/2023 at 2:17 PM, Patrick Morgan said: Thanks! Personally, I'm looking to use my M11 as a secondary camera for northern lights. I primary is a Sony a7riii with a 12-24 (super wide) or 24 f1.4. So, I don't mind having a narrower field of view since my goal is not to replicate images from my primary night time / landscape camera. I appreciate the suggestion. I never considered the Laowa 15mm f2. I'll have to look into that. Also, beautiful image. For Northern Lights, I agree with Bastian regarding angle of view, particularly if you go North of the Polar Circle (where I live). A 24mm is like a short telephoto in this context. Here, a 14mm is the standard lens for Northern Lights. For reference, I had the AF-S Nikkor 14-24mm f/2.8G a few years ago and used it for Northern Lights and never took a picture zoomed in, while occasionally wishing for an even wider lens. I think the best lens for Northern Lights today may be the Sigma 14mm f/1.8 Art. There is no faster ultra-wide lens, it is acceptable wide open (including regarding coma) and vignetting is relatively moderate for what it is. Its only drawback is the size, being built for DSLR. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre68 Posted June 18, 2023 Share #55 Â Posted June 18, 2023 7 hours ago, LarsHP said: For Northern Lights, I agree with Bastian regarding angle of view, particularly if you go North of the Polar Circle (where I live). A 24mm is like a short telephoto in this context. Here, a 14mm is the standard lens for Northern Lights. For reference, I had the AF-S Nikkor 14-24mm f/2.8G a few years ago and used it for Northern Lights and never took a picture zoomed in, while occasionally wishing for an even wider lens. I think the best lens for Northern Lights today may be the Sigma 14mm f/1.8 Art. There is no faster ultra-wide lens, it is acceptable wide open (including regarding coma) and vignetting is relatively moderate for what it is. Its only drawback is the size, being built for DSLR. Faster and bigger :Â Â 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarsHP Posted June 19, 2023 Share #56 Â Posted June 19, 2023 16 hours ago, Pierre68 said: Faster and bigger :Â Â Good catch! I didn't know that Sigma just made a DN version of the 14mm and boosting the aperture from f/1.8 to f/1.4. I expect that will be the lens to beat regarding shooting Northern Lights. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_likes_it Posted June 22, 2023 Share #57  Posted June 22, 2023 On 5/17/2022 at 11:35 PM, chriscove said: I just got my M11 … I have been using it on my M10M. Most of my night photography has been done with my Fuji GFX 100S but I am hoping to use the M11 for my color work, I’ll be doing some direct comparisons when I get some feee time and let you know. I have found the GFX 100S and the 23/4 to be very good. https://www.covenaturephotography.com/Travel/Rochester/i-wb5wVtt Great pano shots of Rochester! I've only visited once and it was in the middle of the winter, nice to see photos without snow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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